Is Cameron a chicken?

Poll: Is Cameron a chicken?

Total Members Polled: 448

Yes, 100% clucker: 68%
Not so sure?: 13%
No, he's a 100% standup guy: 19%
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Yazar

1,476 posts

119 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
Mrr T said:
I think you will find they are saying they might do that. The problem is it would likely be illegal.
All they have to do is to have a conservative there

I could join the conservative party

Turn up at the debates and scream "I love hamsters" whenever asked a question

And not only would i appear to be the most sane there but it would also fulfil the legal requirement
Not even that, they can just have a journalist present who states what the conservatives stated position is relative to that question.

As Cameron is on public record as being in favour of the debates, plus the broadcasters and other parties already conceding ground by adding more parties means that the broadcasters are extremely unlikely to fall foul of the rules.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

199 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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NailedOn said:
TV broadcasters now saying there will be three debates with or without Cameron.

Edited by NailedOn on Friday 6th March 19:19
that could work out wel for Dave as the government could be sèn to have risen above petty squabbling.

Scuffers

Original Poster:

20,887 posts

273 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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NoNeed said:
NailedOn said:
TV broadcasters now saying there will be three debates with or without Cameron.

Edited by NailedOn on Friday 6th March 19:19
that could work out wel for Dave as the government could be sèn to have risen above petty squabbling.
Seriously?

No chance, the lefty press will see to that.

Yazar

1,476 posts

119 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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NoNeed said:
that could work out wel for Dave as the government could be sèn to have risen above petty squabbling.
TV debate audience roughly split into two
1) Informed electorate- already made up his mind based on the last 5 years or more.
2) The uninformed plebs, susceptible to making their mind up purely on something one of the debaters will say. As per the Clegg bounce last time around.

If Cameron isn't there, then he isn't going to have a chance to get any of the 2nd lot. 22 Million viewers the last time around.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

163 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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He has ducked all the difficult questions ever sine he came to office. Being PM seemed to be the sum total of his ambitions and if he lost the GE I don't think he would be too bothered he has achieved his goal of becoming PM.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

199 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Yazar said:
NoNeed said:
that could work out wel for Dave as the government could be sèn to have risen above petty squabbling.
TV debate audience roughly split into two
1) Informed electorate- already made up his mind based on the last 5 years or more.
2) The uninformed plebs, susceptible to making their mind up purely on something one of the debaters will say. As per the Clegg bounce last time around.

If Cameron isn't there, then he isn't going to have a chance to get any of the 2nd lot. 22 Million viewers the last time around.
Clegg won the debate last time but it didn't add up to votes.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

199 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Scuffers said:
NoNeed said:
NailedOn said:
TV broadcasters now saying there will be three debates with or without Cameron.

Edited by NailedOn on Friday 6th March 19:19
that could work out wel for Dave as the government could be sèn to have risen above petty squabbling.
Seriously?

No chance, the lefty press will see to that.
Yes seriously He can stay out of the firing line yet still appear to be a statesman.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

163 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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the lefty press appeal to Lefties they will not damage him at all. The BBC are spitting feathers because they cant get their own way.
You could argue that seeing Milliband for 90 mins will be the best vote getter they could have

Scuffers

Original Poster:

20,887 posts

273 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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NoNeed said:
Yes seriously He can stay out of the firing line yet still appear to be a statesman.
Now, that is funny!

fatboy b

9,492 posts

215 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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I admire Cameron's stance. fk you media, I'm in charge of the country, not you lot. Good show!

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

197 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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NoNeed said:
Clegg won the debate last time but it didn't add up to votes.
Exactly.
The fact is most people never change how they vote you are talking about a very small % and appealing to them that is all

No way ever could a Tory MP convince a generational labour supporter to even remotely consider voting for them ditto in reverse its only the smallest of %'s. That is all.


Did I enjoy it last time? Well I'd read the manifestos and take an interest in politics so was it entertainment a touch yes did it change my voting or could it have no as I knew the manifestos.

The plebs might think shouting over one and other and talking about 15% interest rates but rejecting discussing 3 day weeks and INF bailing us out in the 70's and then labour getting us so close to replicating in 2010 somehow says a lot about those who vote for them. Those voters like to be bought that's easy to do - the hard thing is making the tough decisions which are not popular but are needed and the correct thing to do for the best interest of the country. Do that and win is hard.

It would be a miracle is Torys won they are the party who had to come in and make lots and lots of hard choices that pisses huge % of people off that means its highly unlikely to stay in power IF they do the n labour are doing something now terribly wrong. Opposition now would be simple - unless of course the public are awake to the fact actually there is only 1 solution and we've a party in power delivering the outcome.

Scuffers

Original Poster:

20,887 posts

273 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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fatboy b said:
I'm in charge of the country
For the next 60 days.... (after which the great unwashed will do what i said 5 years ago and vote me out)

Stevanos

700 posts

136 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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I'm amazed there is that much passion for an inane TV debate, are people just that happy to have some form of Pop Idol for their politics now.

Brain Dead Britain.






Scuffers

Original Poster:

20,887 posts

273 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Stevanos said:
I'm amazed there is that much passion for an inane TV debate, are people just that happy to have some form of Pop Idol for their politics now.

Brain Dead Britain.
Welcome to the 20th century

Remember Ronald Regan?


NoNeed

15,137 posts

199 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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fatboy b said:
I admire Cameron's stance. fk you media, I'm in charge of the country, not you lot. Good show!
Me too, I want him to actually say that.biggrin



He can't win a debate and for me is playing his cards really well.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

163 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Stevanos said:
I'm amazed there is that much passion for an inane TV debate, are people just that happy to have some form of Pop Idol for their politics now.

Brain Dead Britain.
maybe we could vote them off after each debate.
I totally agree it will be car crash TV and not for me.

RichB

51,435 posts

283 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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NoNeed said:
fatboy b said:
I admire Cameron's stance. fk you media, I'm in charge of the country, not you lot. Good show!
Me too, I want him to actually say that.biggrin
yes I tend to agree, as I said previously it's a media fest that's fuelled by the TV companies.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

136 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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RichB said:
NoNeed said:
fatboy b said:
I admire Cameron's stance. fk you media, I'm in charge of the country, not you lot. Good show!
Me too, I want him to actually say that.biggrin
yes I tend to agree, as I said previously it's a media fest that's fuelled by the TV companies.
Hypocrisy is so underrated.

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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The thing is Cameron was all for these debates in 2010, now he is backtracking on this when he knows he will get questioned about public services, the NHS, and immigration, that he cannot answer.

It may be inane Television that doesn't carry much weight, but the fact he will not appear, even against a leader as weak as Milliband, makes him look like he is trying to avoid difficult questions.






MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

136 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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anonymous said:
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As I remember it was Sky News and The Sun that were pushing for the debates last time around, I can't imagine that the Tories were uninvolved in the promotion of these debates via the Murdoch empire.