Is Cameron a chicken?
Poll: Is Cameron a chicken?
Total Members Polled: 448
Discussion
JustAnotherLogin said:
Yazar said:
NoNeed said:
I don't see it as inconsistaant as dave is the only consistant one of the lot. He was happy with the debates as they were but Labour wanted UKIP to take tory votes, it is they that wanted to change the rules in their favour not Dave.
You need to check the timeline.Ofcom assessed UKIP as a major party a few months ago. This means UKIP 'have' to be in the debates- 'no ifs or buts'
So as it stands UKIP are not a major party for general elections.
So your assertion is plain rubbish
te on this matter and the only one I think come out of it with any dignity is Dave and given the SNP alliance ed is all for i susoect a landslide tory victory 
gregf40 said:
MarshPhantom said:
gregf40 said:
MarshPhantom said:
The way they are handling this could make you wonder about their ability to run the country.
Not really - he doesn't answer to broadcasters! Only left wing people see this as weak - and they won't vote for him anyway...ked up badly. I'm not even sure what point you are trying to make.ked up' when the debates have not even taken place and no one knows what the outcome is?70% of PHers - that's the same PH that always predicts landslide victory for the Tories every time the elections come around.
JustAnotherLogin said:
Yazar said:
NoNeed said:
I don't see it as inconsistaant as dave is the only consistant one of the lot. He was happy with the debates as they were but Labour wanted UKIP to take tory votes, it is they that wanted to change the rules in their favour not Dave.
You need to check the timeline.Ofcom assessed UKIP as a major party a few months ago. This means UKIP 'have' to be in the debates- 'no ifs or buts'
So as it stands UKIP are not a major party for general elections.
So your assertion is plain rubbish
'Assessed' is the same word as used in the Ofcom Question 2 page 19 of the Ofcom consultation on major parties document, so please apologies for yet more 'anti-kipper regardless of the truth' claptrap
And why have you made up something and put into double quotes implying that it an actual quote??
Let me help you out
what ofcom actualy said:
the criteria suggest that UKIP has sufficiently demonstrated evidence of past electoral support and current support to qualify for major party status in England and Wales for the purposes of the General Election and English local (and mayoral) elections in May 2015
So you said "may", but ofcom said "has". A bit of a difference now isn't it? Goddamn chicken lovers
The world knows the decison is done and dusted, awaiting a mere rubber stamp formality but you anti kippers keep praying for a miracle
bbc said:
It's been a pretty good week for UKIP and Nigel Farage.
The broadcast regulator Ofcom ruled the party must be given the same coverage as the Tories, Labour and the Liberal Democrats in the run up to the European elections.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-26450953The broadcast regulator Ofcom ruled the party must be given the same coverage as the Tories, Labour and the Liberal Democrats in the run up to the European elections.
Telegraph said:
Ukip have been given a boost in the run up to the European elections after Ofcom ruled that broadcasters have to treat them in the same way as any other major party.
The decision means Ukip will be given the same status as the Conservatives, Labour and Liberal Democrats for election broadcasts and news coverage of the May 22 contest.
The party welcomed the regulator’s landmark ruling, claiming it was a refection of the fact that Ukip is a “major player in British politics”.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10674846/Ukip-must-be-treated-like-any-major-party-Ofcom-rules.htmlThe decision means Ukip will be given the same status as the Conservatives, Labour and Liberal Democrats for election broadcasts and news coverage of the May 22 contest.
The party welcomed the regulator’s landmark ruling, claiming it was a refection of the fact that Ukip is a “major player in British politics”.
Guardian said:
Nigel Farage won a significant victoryon Monday with media watchdog Ofcom's decision to rank Ukip as a major party deserving of equal broadcast status with the Conservatives, Labour and Liberal Democrats before the European elections.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/mar/03/ukip-deserving-equal-broadcast-status-ofcomFinancial Times said:
After winning the biggest share of the vote in last year’s European elections and two parliamentary by-elections in Clayton and Rochester, Nigel Farage’s Ukip is now officially a “major party”, according to broadcasting regulator Ofcom.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/95ccc02a-9ca8-11e4-971b-00144feabdc0.htmlThe Times said:
Nigel Farage will become a near permanent fixture on television screens during the election campaign after the broadcasting watchdog ruled that Ukip is a “major party”.
Television and radio news programmes must give similar levels of airtime to Ukip as the other three main parties during the six-week formal campaign, according to a consultation published by Ofcom yesterday.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article4318238.eceTelevision and radio news programmes must give similar levels of airtime to Ukip as the other three main parties during the six-week formal campaign, according to a consultation published by Ofcom yesterday.
Edited by Yazar on Sunday 8th March 11:21
MarshPhantom said:
gregf40 said:
MarshPhantom said:
gregf40 said:
MarshPhantom said:
The way they are handling this could make you wonder about their ability to run the country.
Not really - he doesn't answer to broadcasters! Only left wing people see this as weak - and they won't vote for him anyway...ked up badly. I'm not even sure what point you are trying to make.ked up' when the debates have not even taken place and no one knows what the outcome is?70% of PHers - that's the same PH that always predicts landslide victory for the Tories every time the elections come around.
Also, we aren't in Back To The Future. I don't think PM's and parties are voted in and out of power based on people thinking the leader is 'chicken' over something as small as these debates. Only an idiot would use their vote based solely on their opinion of this...ignoring everything else the Conservatives have done since coming into power (increased employment massively, increased GDP...)
2) How many polls have you even seen on PH relating to General Elections? I'm guessing 2 at most (2005 and 2010) but more likely just 2010. Can you link to these for everyone else...or are you just making up more facts to suit your argument?
Edited by gregf40 on Sunday 8th March 11:24
gregf40 said:
MarshPhantom said:
gregf40 said:
MarshPhantom said:
gregf40 said:
MarshPhantom said:
The way they are handling this could make you wonder about their ability to run the country.
Not really - he doesn't answer to broadcasters! Only left wing people see this as weak - and they won't vote for him anyway...ked up badly. I'm not even sure what point you are trying to make.ked up' when the debates have not even taken place and no one knows what the outcome is?70% of PHers - that's the same PH that always predicts landslide victory for the Tories every time the elections come around.
Also, we aren't in Back To The Future. I don't think PM's and parties are voted in and out of power based on people thinking the leader is 'chicken' over something as small as these debates. Only an idiot would use their vote based solely on their opinion of this...ignoring everything else the Conservatives have done since coming into power (increased employment massively, increased GDP...)
2) How many polls have you even seen on PH relating to General Elections? I'm guessing 2 at most (2005 and 2010) but more likely just 2010. Can you link to these for everyone else...or are you just making up more facts to suit your argument?
Edited by gregf40 on Sunday 8th March 11:24
You think they're handling it well, I don't and nor do many people it would seem. I'm really not sure what point you are trying to make.
As I've already said, Cameron is asserting who is in Charge.
This election, for me, is the clearest descision for a long time.
Freeloader and like the benefits = vote Labour
Want to work to make a life for yourself = vote Conservative
Any other vote = wasted.
It's taken a lot longer than anticipated owing to the Labour fk-ups, but we're now ahead of all of Europe with our economy thanks to Cameron. Let's not forget that fact.
This election, for me, is the clearest descision for a long time.
Freeloader and like the benefits = vote Labour
Want to work to make a life for yourself = vote Conservative
Any other vote = wasted.
It's taken a lot longer than anticipated owing to the Labour f
k-ups, but we're now ahead of all of Europe with our economy thanks to Cameron. Let's not forget that fact.fatboy b said:
As I've already said, Cameron is asserting who is in Charge.
This election, for me, is the clearest descision for a long time.
Freeloader and like the benefits = vote Labour
Want to work to make a life for yourself = vote Conservative
Any other vote = wasted.
It's taken a lot longer than anticipated owing to the Labour fk-ups, but we're now ahead of all of Europe with our economy thanks to Cameron. Let's not forget that fact.
Want the Global Warming Scam to continue = vote Conservative/Labour/GreenThis election, for me, is the clearest descision for a long time.
Freeloader and like the benefits = vote Labour
Want to work to make a life for yourself = vote Conservative
Any other vote = wasted.
It's taken a lot longer than anticipated owing to the Labour f
k-ups, but we're now ahead of all of Europe with our economy thanks to Cameron. Let's not forget that fact.Want more third-world parasites in the UK = vote Conservative/Labour/Green
Want a house? Work hard on an average single salary, save 70k, and Cameron fs you over by giving money to people who haven't saved anything more than a 5% deposit, creating a bubble, not increasing housing supply and pricing me (a single person) out of the market as a result.
I am in a worse off position than when they came to power, so I don't believe all this work hard and your rewarded under the Tories rubbish.
s you over by giving money to people who haven't saved anything more than a 5% deposit, creating a bubble, not increasing housing supply and pricing me (a single person) out of the market as a result.I am in a worse off position than when they came to power, so I don't believe all this work hard and your rewarded under the Tories rubbish.
Scuffers said:
Exactly,
Pretty basic stuff, let in several million migrants and we have a housing problem (along with a st load of other issues)
And people call farage stupid.
what sort of country have we become when a person mentions immigrants the shouty people start with their racism taunts.Pretty basic stuff, let in several million migrants and we have a housing problem (along with a s
t load of other issues)And people call farage stupid.
We have had a housing shortage for decades,the NHS is at breaking point and the roads are grid locked.
Neither the Conservatives or Labour have gone anywhere near any of these subjects so is it any surprise so many people feel that Farage speaks for them.
When you have so many people unemployed as we have done for the last 5 or 6 years how can you allow anyone into the country.
johnxjsc1985 said:
what sort of country have we become when a person mentions immigrants the shouty people start with their racism taunts.
We have had a housing shortage for decades,the NHS is at breaking point and the roads are grid locked.
Neither the Conservatives or Labour have gone anywhere near any of these subjects so is it any surprise so many people feel that Farage speaks for them.
When you have so many people unemployed as we have done for the last 5 or 6 years how can you allow anyone into the country.
So, just for clarity...We have had a housing shortage for decades,the NHS is at breaking point and the roads are grid locked.
Neither the Conservatives or Labour have gone anywhere near any of these subjects so is it any surprise so many people feel that Farage speaks for them.
When you have so many people unemployed as we have done for the last 5 or 6 years how can you allow anyone into the country.
You saying that massive rise in population over the last 10 years has nothing to do with it?
You do understand the concept of supply and demand?
Scuffers said:
So, just for clarity...
You saying that massive rise in population over the last 10 years has nothing to do with it?
You do understand the concept of supply and demand?
do you understand the definition of clarity because your post isn't clear but let me help you.You saying that massive rise in population over the last 10 years has nothing to do with it?
You do understand the concept of supply and demand?
Whilst we have had an increase in unemployment we have also had an increase in immigration.
Don't be a smart arse.
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