Is Cameron a chicken?
Poll: Is Cameron a chicken?
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pilchardthecat said:
Greg66 said:
pilchardthecat said:
The UKIP "major party" thing is based primarily on the last EU and local authority elections, in the EU elections they got a greater share of the vote than the tories or labour. They got 17% in the local elections, which is substantially more than the yellow party did.
The electoral commission doesnt just look at the house of commons.
But this isn't an EU election, nor is it a local authority election. The electoral commission doesnt just look at the house of commons.
- Maybe* they will replicate their performances in the GE, and maybe they won't; people's reasons for voting a certain way in an EU or local election may or may not lead them to vote the same way in a GE.
JustAnotherLogin said:
pilchardthecat said:
Greg66 said:
pilchardthecat said:
The UKIP "major party" thing is based primarily on the last EU and local authority elections, in the EU elections they got a greater share of the vote than the tories or labour. They got 17% in the local elections, which is substantially more than the yellow party did.
The electoral commission doesnt just look at the house of commons.
But this isn't an EU election, nor is it a local authority election. The electoral commission doesnt just look at the house of commons.
- Maybe* they will replicate their performances in the GE, and maybe they won't; people's reasons for voting a certain way in an EU or local election may or may not lead them to vote the same way in a GE.
Regardless of whether he's chicken or simply astute to avoid the poisoned chalice, for an incumbent PM at least, in the shape of a TV debate, it's clear he is too influenced by appearance over substance.
If any evidence of that is needed, just look at the sacking of the most competent cabinet minister in a long time, Owen Paterson, replaced by someone so staggeringly incompetent it's embarrassing.
If any evidence of that is needed, just look at the sacking of the most competent cabinet minister in a long time, Owen Paterson, replaced by someone so staggeringly incompetent it's embarrassing.
BBC said:
Broadcasters have put forward new proposals for the TV election debates which would include the SNP, Plaid Cymru and the Greens.
It comes after David Cameron refused to take part unless the Green Party was included.
The BBC and ITV would stage debates involving the Conservatives, Labour, Lib Dems, Greens, UKIP, SNP and Plaid.
Sky and Channel 4's plans to host a head-to-head between Mr Cameron and Ed Miliband remains unchanged.
The move comes after discussions between the broadcasters following a political row over the proposed format for the debates to be held during the election campaign.
The initial proposals only included the Conservatives, Labour, the Liberal Democrats and UKIP.
Full Article.It comes after David Cameron refused to take part unless the Green Party was included.
The BBC and ITV would stage debates involving the Conservatives, Labour, Lib Dems, Greens, UKIP, SNP and Plaid.
Sky and Channel 4's plans to host a head-to-head between Mr Cameron and Ed Miliband remains unchanged.
The move comes after discussions between the broadcasters following a political row over the proposed format for the debates to be held during the election campaign.
The initial proposals only included the Conservatives, Labour, the Liberal Democrats and UKIP.
Salterns said:
To be fair Cameron is between a rock and a hard place. If he takes part he will loose votes and if he doesn't take part he will loose votes. He's obviously decided not taking part will loose less votes than taking part.
Insulting the electorate will not endear him either, even more lost votes perhaps."David Cameron tonight made his ‘final offer’ of a single general election TV debate, forcing Ed Miliband to share the primetime event with upto six minor parties.
n a dramatic take-it-or-leave it ultimatum, the Prime Minister told the broadcasters he would only agree to one leaders’ debate programme, starting the week of March 23rd.
Mr Cameron has now ruled out a head-to-head confrontation with Mr Miliband, just weeks after suggesting he would agree to the idea.
Leaders of Tory, Labour, Liberal Democrat, UKIP, Green, SNP, Plaid Cymru parties should take part, with possibly the DUP too, Downing Street said.
Mr Cameron’s move came just hours after he was taunted by Mr Miliband at Prime Minister’s Question Time over his refusal to agree on a debates package."
https://www.politicshome.com/party-politics/articl...
n a dramatic take-it-or-leave it ultimatum, the Prime Minister told the broadcasters he would only agree to one leaders’ debate programme, starting the week of March 23rd.
Mr Cameron has now ruled out a head-to-head confrontation with Mr Miliband, just weeks after suggesting he would agree to the idea.
Leaders of Tory, Labour, Liberal Democrat, UKIP, Green, SNP, Plaid Cymru parties should take part, with possibly the DUP too, Downing Street said.
Mr Cameron’s move came just hours after he was taunted by Mr Miliband at Prime Minister’s Question Time over his refusal to agree on a debates package."
https://www.politicshome.com/party-politics/articl...
It is utterly pathetic.
These are the people jousting for the leadership of this country, in the lead up to what will be - probably - the most closely fought election in UK history, and they're arguing and "taunting" each other over who is allowed to talk on the telly and who isn't.
Laughable does not even come close.
These are the people jousting for the leadership of this country, in the lead up to what will be - probably - the most closely fought election in UK history, and they're arguing and "taunting" each other over who is allowed to talk on the telly and who isn't.
Laughable does not even come close.
vournikas said:
It is utterly pathetic.
These are the people jousting for the leadership of this country, in the lead up to what will be - probably - the most closely fought election in UK history, and they're arguing and "taunting" each other over who is allowed to talk on the telly and who isn't.
Laughable does not even come close.
Sadly, that's politics these days.These are the people jousting for the leadership of this country, in the lead up to what will be - probably - the most closely fought election in UK history, and they're arguing and "taunting" each other over who is allowed to talk on the telly and who isn't.
Laughable does not even come close.
vournikas said:
It is utterly pathetic.
These are the people jousting for the leadership of this country, in the lead up to what will be - probably - the most closely fought election in UK history, and they're arguing and "taunting" each other over who is allowed to talk on the telly and who isn't.
Laughable does not even come close.
It just Sad that these are all we have got.These are the people jousting for the leadership of this country, in the lead up to what will be - probably - the most closely fought election in UK history, and they're arguing and "taunting" each other over who is allowed to talk on the telly and who isn't.
Laughable does not even come close.
David Cameron’s 7-party debate “offer” means he’s chickening out while pretending not to
No 10 said:
“This is our final offer, and to be clear, given the fact this has been a deeply unsatisfactory process and we are within a month of the short campaign, the Prime Minister will not be participating in more than one debate.”
Easy to solve.
To programme should run with clegg,milliband and farrage and an empty pedestal .
While a message flashes up at the bottom of the screen ever 20 seconds Cameron refused to appear. Every now and again the presenter should turn to the empty Place and say what do you say about that Mr Cameron, and then say oh that's right you were to scared to come.
To programme should run with clegg,milliband and farrage and an empty pedestal .
While a message flashes up at the bottom of the screen ever 20 seconds Cameron refused to appear. Every now and again the presenter should turn to the empty Place and say what do you say about that Mr Cameron, and then say oh that's right you were to scared to come.
Pesty said:
Easy to solve.
To programme should run with clegg,milliband and farrage and an empty pedestal .
While a message flashes up at the bottom of the screen ever 20 seconds Cameron refused to appear. Every now and again the presenter should turn to the empty Place and say what do you say about that Mr Cameron, and then say oh that's right you were to scared to come.
I think a bowl of poultry mix would send the messageTo programme should run with clegg,milliband and farrage and an empty pedestal .
While a message flashes up at the bottom of the screen ever 20 seconds Cameron refused to appear. Every now and again the presenter should turn to the empty Place and say what do you say about that Mr Cameron, and then say oh that's right you were to scared to come.
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