'Jewish patrol cars' in North London

'Jewish patrol cars' in North London

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voyds9

8,489 posts

284 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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egor110 said:
If they fear some sort of muslim terrorist attack on a synagogue , what exactly are 2 blokes in a car going to do to stop it?
Emergency prayers?

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

133 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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In a German car though, so must be tolerant Jews then.

GP335i

466 posts

165 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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jogon said:
They already do, Sharia Patrols, but don't seem to working out quite as well..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2519519/Mu...
Look at the state of that idiot Jordan Horner, I cringe everytime I see that beard it's like a vagina in a 70's porno.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

138 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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sleep envy said:
You can imagine the 'Guarda' and this lot drawing a line on the Finchley Road as the no man's land.

Jewish supermarkets on sone side and Irish pubs on the other. It'll be bedlam.
sounds like a fun Friday night I recon

seriously though how can the M.P. now refuse to support similar groups in other ghettos in London? or indeed how can other uk police forces not support such activities in say Leicester or bradford ? its a dumb idea for our police forces to allow such groups to claim they are working in partnership with them what ever community they say they are working for

turbobloke

104,131 posts

261 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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At one level, and it is one level only, this is like semi-realistic life size cardboard police cars and similar, only these are branded slightly differently and move about.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

243 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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I know this is probably Zionist propaganda, but..

http://muslimvillage.com/2013/09/13/43902/uk-jewis...


Tannedbaldhead

2,952 posts

133 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Vigilantes.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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citizensm1th said:
sleep envy said:
You can imagine the 'Guarda' and this lot drawing a line on the Finchley Road as the no man's land.

Jewish supermarkets on sone side and Irish pubs on the other. It'll be bedlam.
sounds like a fun Friday night I recon

seriously though how can the M.P. now refuse to support similar groups in other ghettos in London? or indeed how can other uk police forces not support such activities in say Leicester or bradford ? its a dumb idea for our police forces to allow such groups to claim they are working in partnership with them what ever community they say they are working for
Golders Green? A ghetto?

Getragdogleg

8,795 posts

184 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Muntu said:
Getragdogleg said:
This is scarcely different to the devout "sharia zone" or "Moslem Area" policing that was discussed a while ago here on PH.

It only differs because so far they haven't confiscated anyone's beer/bacon yet.
The "sharia zone" idiots are trying to enforce sharia law.

These guys are there to potentially protect people from muslims trying to enforce sharia law

It's not difficult to work out.

How effective they will be is another issue, although it is a sad state of affairs that they need to exist in 21st century London
my point is not difficult to work out either, for clarification I will state it in plain English:

We already have Police, this lot opens the door for others to think its ok to Police their own areas/people Before you know it you will have all and sundry running about in liveried cars dispensing instant sanctioned vigilante justice for transgressions, real or otherwise.

This needs stamping on now before we are reading a headline that one of these patrols has killed a member of another group.

franki68

10,439 posts

222 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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They work in liaison with the police,if it's anything like Manchester.
They guard schools and synagogues ,their role is to report suspicious behavior.
The police do not have the manpower to protect Jewish schools and synagogues
Dressing up like a police car is just stupid though.

It is nothing to do with enforcing religious rules or anything.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

138 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Getragdogleg said:
Muntu said:
Getragdogleg said:
This is scarcely different to the devout "sharia zone" or "Moslem Area" policing that was discussed a while ago here on PH.

It only differs because so far they haven't confiscated anyone's beer/bacon yet.
The "sharia zone" idiots are trying to enforce sharia law.

These guys are there to potentially protect people from muslims trying to enforce sharia law

It's not difficult to work out.


How effective they will be is another issue, although it is a sad state of affairs that they need to exist in 21st century London
my point is not difficult to work out either, for clarification I will state it in plain English:

We already have Police, this lot opens the door for others to think its ok to Police their own areas/people Before you know it you will have all and sundry running about in liveried cars dispensing instant sanctioned vigilante justice for transgressions, real or otherwise.

This needs stamping on now before we are reading a headline that one of these patrols has killed a member of another group.
totally agree the proverbial slippery slope and I see it as the start of privatised policing in the uk

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Getragdogleg said:
my point is not difficult to work out either, for clarification I will state it in plain English:

We already have Police, this lot opens the door for others to think its ok to Police their own areas/people Before you know it you will have all and sundry running about in liveried cars dispensing instant sanctioned vigilante justice for transgressions, real or otherwise.

This needs stamping on now before we are reading a headline that one of these patrols has killed a member of another group.
Have you read the article?

TheDailyMail said:
Extra Jewish security patrol cars and police were out in force in North-West London yesterday following the kosher store siege in Paris.
The cars look very similar to police vehicles and bear the security group’s name ‘Shomrim’ – Hebrew for ‘guards’ – along the sides and back.
The Orthodox organisation, which works closely with the Metropolitan Police, tweeted: ‘Following events in Paris we will have on extra patrols throughout NW London over Shabbos [ the Jewish sabbath].'
Shomrim volunteers receive police training and uniforms, including knife-proof vests.

...

Shomrim tweeted on Friday: 'Our thoughts and prayers are with the Jewish community in Paris, the victims and families of victims in today's attacks.'
Based in Stamford Hill, the volunteers are trained by the Metropolitan Police and patrol the area regularly looking for anti-Semitic hate crimes, and general disorder in the neighbourhood.
The volunteer group, similar to a Neighbourhood Watch, are trained to safely track and detain suspects until police arrive, and run a 24-hour hotline for those in the area to report attacks.
Don't let any of that stand in the way of a good knee-jerk rant at minorities though. Especially ones who might be under genuine threat of personal danger.

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 11th January 12:18

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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citizensm1th said:
Getragdogleg said:
Muntu said:
Getragdogleg said:
This is scarcely different to the devout "sharia zone" or "Moslem Area" policing that was discussed a while ago here on PH.

It only differs because so far they haven't confiscated anyone's beer/bacon yet.
The "sharia zone" idiots are trying to enforce sharia law.

These guys are there to potentially protect people from muslims trying to enforce sharia law

It's not difficult to work out.


How effective they will be is another issue, although it is a sad state of affairs that they need to exist in 21st century London
my point is not difficult to work out either, for clarification I will state it in plain English:

We already have Police, this lot opens the door for others to think its ok to Police their own areas/people Before you know it you will have all and sundry running about in liveried cars dispensing instant sanctioned vigilante justice for transgressions, real or otherwise.

This needs stamping on now before we are reading a headline that one of these patrols has killed a member of another group.
totally agree the proverbial slippery slope and I see it as the start of privatised policing in the uk
Has been going on for over 15 years already and only now are the mouths starting to froth due to being published in the Daily Heil.

Jasandjules

69,982 posts

230 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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If these people are trained by the police then I am reasonably sure the police are ok with it. That's good enough for me.

Getragdogleg

8,795 posts

184 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Greg66 said:
Getragdogleg said:
my point is not difficult to work out either, for clarification I will state it in plain English:

We already have Police, this lot opens the door for others to think its ok to Police their own areas/people Before you know it you will have all and sundry running about in liveried cars dispensing instant sanctioned vigilante justice for transgressions, real or otherwise.

This needs stamping on now before we are reading a headline that one of these patrols has killed a member of another group.
Have you read the article?

TheDailyMail said:
Extra Jewish security patrol cars and police were out in force in North-West London yesterday following the kosher store siege in Paris.
The cars look very similar to police vehicles and bear the security group’s name ‘Shomrim’ – Hebrew for ‘guards’ – along the sides and back.
The Orthodox organisation, which works closely with the Metropolitan Police, tweeted: ‘Following events in Paris we will have on extra patrols throughout NW London over Shabbos [ the Jewish sabbath].'
Shomrim volunteers receive police training and uniforms, including knife-proof vests.

...

Shomrim tweeted on Friday: 'Our thoughts and prayers are with the Jewish community in Paris, the victims and families of victims in today's attacks.'
Based in Stamford Hill, the [b]volunteers are trained by the Metropolitan Police and patrol the area regularly looking for anti-Semitic hate crimes, and general disorder in the neighbourhood.
The volunteer group, similar to a Neighbourhood Watch, are trained to safely track and detain suspects until police arrive, [/b]and run a 24-hour hotline for those in the area to report attacks.
Don't let any of that stand in the way of a good knee-jerk rant at minorities though. Especially ones who might be under genuine threat of personal danger.
Yes, I read the article, I still don't see its a "knee jerk reaction" from me or others.

We have Police, if the Jews (or anyone) want to do Policing then join the Police. don't waft about in marked up cars confusing the issue, what powers do these lot have ? what powers can they expect to be given in time ?

Funding ought to be in place to do the job of Policing the UK properly but that is another topic.

Getragdogleg

8,795 posts

184 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Jasandjules said:
If these people are trained by the police then I am reasonably sure the police are ok with it. That's good enough for me.
Or have been told to be ok with it.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

138 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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sleep envy said:
citizensm1th said:
sleep envy said:
You can imagine the 'Guarda' and this lot drawing a line on the Finchley Road as the no man's land.

Jewish supermarkets on sone side and Irish pubs on the other. It'll be bedlam.
sounds like a fun Friday night I recon

seriously though how can the M.P. now refuse to support similar groups in other ghettos in London? or indeed how can other uk police forces not support such activities in say Leicester or bradford ? its a dumb idea for our police forces to allow such groups to claim they are working in partnership with them what ever community they say they are working for
Golders Green? A ghetto?
Ghetto

Etymology[edit]

Borrowing from Italian ghetto, from Venetian, ghèto (“foundry”). Alternatively an apheresis of the Italian borghetto, diminutive of borgo (“village”). Initially used of the areas Jews were concentrated, later extended to concentrations of other ethnicities and then non-ethic groups. The adjective and verb derive from the noun.

Pronunciation[edit]
Rhymes: -ɛtəʊ

Noun[edit]

ghetto (plural ghettos or ghettoes or ghetti)
1.An (often walled) area of a city in which Jews are concentrated by force and law. (Used particularly of areas in medieval Italy and in Nazi-controlled Europe.)  [quotations ▼]



2.An (often impoverished) area of a city inhabited predominantly by members of a specific nationality, ethnicity or race.  [quotations ▼]



3.An area in which people who are distinguished by sharing something other than ethnicity concentrate or are concentrated.  [quotations ▼]





supersingle

3,205 posts

220 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Getragdogleg said:
Muntu said:
Getragdogleg said:
This is scarcely different to the devout "sharia zone" or "Moslem Area" policing that was discussed a while ago here on PH.

It only differs because so far they haven't confiscated anyone's beer/bacon yet.
The "sharia zone" idiots are trying to enforce sharia law.

These guys are there to potentially protect people from muslims trying to enforce sharia law

It's not difficult to work out.

How effective they will be is another issue, although it is a sad state of affairs that they need to exist in 21st century London
my point is not difficult to work out either, for clarification I will state it in plain English:

We already have Police, this lot opens the door for others to think its ok to Police their own areas/people Before you know it you will have all and sundry running about in liveried cars dispensing instant sanctioned vigilante justice for transgressions, real or otherwise.

This needs stamping on now before we are reading a headline that one of these patrols has killed a member of another group.
The police are just citizens in uniform being paid to uphold the law.

Anyone who considers themselves a good citizen should do the same. This group aren't any different from a neighbourhood watch group, they're there to uphold the law of the land, not an exclusive religious law.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

138 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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sleep envy said:
Has been going on for over 15 years already and only now are the mouths starting to froth due to being published in the Daily Heil.
Rubbish mouths are starting to froth to use your words because may be just may be some sections of our society are right to feel that other sections are given preferential treatment and we have all had a very vivid example of what happens if we allow this to continue.