Saudi Arabia - should we do business with them?

[glazbagun]

Why do they think he's been murdered and not abducted? This, of course, happening in the country that managed to jail more journalists than China.

[loafer123]

I wonder if it is an attempt to get them to say “no we haven’t murdered him....here he is”?

[BlackLabel]

"Washington Post writer who fiercely criticized the Saudi government 'was tortured, murdered and cut into pieces inside his country's consulate in Istanbul', Turkish police claim"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6248763/T...

[skwdenyer]

I think it is time for CJ:

https://youtu.be/cHGN-1Os31U

[GT03ROB]

Gandahar said:

It really is a despicable regime and one country that needs regime change whilst pretending it is not regime change. Also do it for the oil, at least that is honest. Invade, take all their oil wealth and spend it in a proper manner. I know that is blunt but actually would help them out as well if they got a democracy. They would be happier, apart from all the princes who have all the trappings.

I have got my tongue in cheek here of course.

Maybe.

Be very very careful what you wish for. Devil you know & all that. The last devil with oil "we" took down ended well didn't it?

[skwdenyer]

There seems to be a bit of a rush for the door right now:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45833910

[Digga]

skwdenyer said:

There seems to be a bit of a rush for the door right now:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45833910

I can fully understand why firms who have been involved in SA might be relieved to find a convenient and sufficiently robust justification to cut ties. Sure, there were reasons before, but then haven't there always been? I think now is a tipping point.

[skwdenyer]

Digga said:

skwdenyer said:

There seems to be a bit of a rush for the door right now:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45833910

I can fully understand why firms who have been involved in SA might be relieved to find a convenient and sufficiently robust justification to cut ties. Sure, there were reasons before, but then haven't there always been? I think now is a tipping point.

The irony is that they'd be much better off doing business with the Iranians in many cases, only that wouldn't be allowed now would it...

[Digga]

skwdenyer said:

Digga said:

skwdenyer said:

There seems to be a bit of a rush for the door right now:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45833910

I can fully understand why firms who have been involved in SA might be relieved to find a convenient and sufficiently robust justification to cut ties. Sure, there were reasons before, but then haven't there always been? I think now is a tipping point.

The irony is that they'd be much better off doing business with the Iranians in many cases, only that wouldn't be allowed now would it...

I can remember when we were "allowed" to deal with Iraq in the 80's. I was in Digga snr's office and he showed me a cheque for £80k the business had received in the post form the City or Baghdad's public works department. Was a lot of money in those days.

Who we are and are not allowed to deal with often seems very arbitrary - find your worst enemy and support their nearest, worst enemy.

[BlackLabel]

If ever there was a genuine case for asylum it’s this one.


“Saudi woman held in Bangkok fears she will be killed if repatriated”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/06/saud...

Her twitter account.

https://mobile.twitter.com/rahaf84427714

She’s publicly renounced her religion which carries a death sentence in Saudi Arabia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religio...


Something similar happened to this girl a few years ago and she’s never been seen alive again.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dina_Ali_Lasloom

Edited by BlackLabel on Monday 7th January 01:26

[alfaman]

BlackLabel said:

If ever there was a genuine case for asylum it’s this one.


“Saudi woman held in Bangkok fears she will be killed if repatriated”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/06/saud...

Her twitter account.

https://mobile.twitter.com/rahaf84427714

She’s publicly renounced her religion which carries a death sentence in Saudi Arabia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religio...


Something similar happened to this girl a few years ago and she’s never been seen alive again.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dina_Ali_Lasloom

Edited by BlackLabel on Monday 7th January 01:26

Tragic. She apparently had an onward ticket to Australia but somehow the Saudis were allowed by the Thais to intervene.

She’s dead if she is sent back.

Saudi Arabian men seem to have the thinnest skins on the planet ... response to any challenge or disagreement .. particularly from a woman is met with brute force / violence

[6th Gear]

Bravo Thailand.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/07/saud...

[BlackLabel]

6th Gear said:

Bravo Thailand.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/07/saud...

Bravo Twitter as well. If this had happened pre social media she’d be back in Saudi Arabia or Kuwait by now.

[6th Gear]

BlackLabel said:

6th Gear said:

Bravo Thailand.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/07/saud...

Bravo Twitter as well. If this had happened pre social media she’d be back in Saudi Arabia or Kuwait by now.

Very true.

[BlackLabel]

She’s now in the care of the UN Human Rights Council in Bangkok awaiting a decision on her request for asylum in Australia.

https://www.9news.com.au/2019/01/07/15/52/rahaf-mo...

Some similarities with this case to the princess latifa of Dubai story.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/01/indian...

[Russian Troll Bot]

BBC Asian Network asking the important question - do you respect her decision to denounce Islam then flee because she would have been killed by her family

https://twitter.com/bbcasiannetwork/status/1082932...

[dudleybloke]

If Allah wants her punished for leaving Islam he can do it himself.
If he can't he is either weak, powerless or fictional.
Take your pick

[BlackLabel]

Russian Troll Bot said:

BBC Asian Network asking the important question - do you respect her decision to denounce Islam then flee because she would have been killed by her family

https://twitter.com/bbcasiannetwork/status/1082932...

They have form for this kind of stuff.

Edited by BlackLabel on Wednesday 9th January 16:15

[WCZ]

deleted now, what the hell were they thinking?

[BlackLabel]

Well done Canada - they even sent the foreign minister to the airport to personally welcome the girl. I’m sure that will go down well in Riyadh.

“A Saudi teenager who fled her family alleging abuse and got stranded at a Bangkok airport has arrived in Canada after being granted asylum there.”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-4685172...