Respecting religion???
Discussion
Some Gump said:
There's a difference between not giving any credence to religion, and being a 
about it.
Say it was not religion. Pretend it's football... Of course you have every right to think that Man u are ste, but going down to the trafford arms and telling the fans that they're ste is probably not the decent thing to do. Not only is it risking a kicking, it's just winding people up for no reason whatsoever.
There is a difference between respectivng a religion, and actively showing it disrespect.
So you should not say anything against those with a big stick? Seems a bit defeatist to me. about it.Say it was not religion. Pretend it's football... Of course you have every right to think that Man u are s
te, but going down to the trafford arms and telling the fans that they're ste is probably not the decent thing to do. Not only is it risking a kicking, it's just winding people up for no reason whatsoever.There is a difference between respectivng a religion, and actively showing it disrespect.
(By the way, I'm a bit confused by your comment: There is a difference between respecting a religion, and actively showing it disrespect. Not one for being contentious, are we.
Religions purport to be moral but they are not. They denigrate women, they control their fertility and they say that homosexuals are criminals. This is highly immoral behaviour. It demonises them and is very close to a hate crime.
They actively prevent the use of condoms, telling lies about their effectiveness in Africa, in those palaces where AIDS is rampant and, criminally, where AIDS is spreading.
So why should we follow the dictats of someone who reckons we are all going to burn in hell? I can't respect an edifice like a religion any more than I can respect a political party. Some MPs are superb at their job and I respect them. I will bet that some vicars do a good job and if I get to know about them, I will probably respect them. But catholicism is a political entity and, like all political constructs, it is corrupt. One should despise them all.
I will always put money in a Sally Ann collecting tin and I pay money to them monthly. Yet their religion is peculiar, odd, weird even. But they do a good job. I respect those on the front line, the ones in the flop houses, the ones who help the down and outs. Those at the top who preach and control? Nah.
It works both ways. Many religious people don't respect those with differing beliefs to themselves...so it's a little hypocritical for them to expect respect themselves.
Lead by example.......
Religion has been hitting people with a big stick for hundreds or thousands of years - sooner or later people were bound to hit back.
Lead by example.......
Religion has been hitting people with a big stick for hundreds or thousands of years - sooner or later people were bound to hit back.
Stevanos said:
Some Gump said:
There's a difference between not giving any credence to religion, and being a about it.
Say it was not religion. Pretend it's football... Of course you have every right to think that Man u are ste, but going down to the trafford arms and telling the fans that they're ste is probably not the decent thing to do. Not only is it risking a kicking, it's just winding people up for no reason whatsoever.
There is a difference between respecting a religion, and actively showing it disrespect.
Well let's say I don't give a s about it.Say it was not religion. Pretend it's football... Of course you have every right to think that Man u are s
te, but going down to the trafford arms and telling the fans that they're ste is probably not the decent thing to do. Not only is it risking a kicking, it's just winding people up for no reason whatsoever.There is a difference between respecting a religion, and actively showing it disrespect.
t about ManU, which I don't. Football is as bad as religion I think. But if I go to my local pub... The Trafford Arms, why should I respect anything these halfwits are on about? I just want a nice quiet pint and I certainly don't want to discuss it with them as they behave like dicks! (just an example).Same with religion, let the believers believe, they may be deluded, they may be stupid, but it is fairly certain they will not take kindly to being told so.
What free speech we have comes with responsibility, we are all responsible for our actions and omissions, including what we say.
Corpulent Tosser said:
Then don't discuss it with them, stay out of their discussion and no-one will be bothered. However, if you start making derogatory remarks or taking the piss out of their team or players you can expect a negative effect.
Same with religion, let the believers believe, they may be deluded, they may be stupid, but it is fairly certain they will not take kindly to being told so.
What free speech we have comes with responsibility, we are all responsible for our actions and omissions, including what we say.
It is a little hard to do this these days, it seems you can be shot!Same with religion, let the believers believe, they may be deluded, they may be stupid, but it is fairly certain they will not take kindly to being told so.
What free speech we have comes with responsibility, we are all responsible for our actions and omissions, including what we say.
Corpulent Tosser said:
Then don't discuss it with them, stay out of their discussion and no-one will be bothered. However, if you start making derogatory remarks or taking the piss out of their team or players you can expect a negative effect.
Same with religion, let the believers believe, they may be deluded, they may be stupid, but it is fairly certain they will not take kindly to being told so.
What free speech we have comes with responsibility, we are all responsible for our actions and omissions, including what we say.
I would be quite happy to believers believe so long as it doesn't interfere with my life. But sadly their belief in fairy tales has a massive (negative) impact on my life and the lives of millions of other people all across the world.Same with religion, let the believers believe, they may be deluded, they may be stupid, but it is fairly certain they will not take kindly to being told so.
What free speech we have comes with responsibility, we are all responsible for our actions and omissions, including what we say.
rover 623gsi said:
Corpulent Tosser said:
Then don't discuss it with them, stay out of their discussion and no-one will be bothered. However, if you start making derogatory remarks or taking the piss out of their team or players you can expect a negative effect.
Same with religion, let the believers believe, they may be deluded, they may be stupid, but it is fairly certain they will not take kindly to being told so.
What free speech we have comes with responsibility, we are all responsible for our actions and omissions, including what we say.
I would be quite happy to believers believe so long as it doesn't interfere with my life. But sadly their belief in fairy tales has a massive (negative) impact on my life and the lives of millions of other people all across the world.Same with religion, let the believers believe, they may be deluded, they may be stupid, but it is fairly certain they will not take kindly to being told so.
What free speech we have comes with responsibility, we are all responsible for our actions and omissions, including what we say.
Stevanos said:
Corpulent Tosser said:
Then don't discuss it with them, stay out of their discussion and no-one will be bothered. However, if you start making derogatory remarks or taking the piss out of their team or players you can expect a negative effect.
Same with religion, let the believers believe, they may be deluded, they may be stupid, but it is fairly certain they will not take kindly to being told so.
What free speech we have comes with responsibility, we are all responsible for our actions and omissions, including what we say.
It is a little hard to do this these days, it seems you can be shot!Same with religion, let the believers believe, they may be deluded, they may be stupid, but it is fairly certain they will not take kindly to being told so.
What free speech we have comes with responsibility, we are all responsible for our actions and omissions, including what we say.
bingybongy said:
Are people who worship alien spacemen also to have their beliefs respected? As I see no difference in respecting a god lots of people worship and one only a few do.
They all have some sort of mental problem.
Indeed. The thing I don't understand is how we have stopped believing lots of things from only a few hundred years ago but, religious people still believe stuff from 2000+ years ago. The mind does truly boogle. Religion was/is just a tool to control the peasants. Religion is considered by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.They all have some sort of mental problem.
Stevanos said:
g3org3y said:
Good book.
I'd also add Christopher Hitchens' 'God is Not Great' as a very worthy read.
I'm not going to waste any time/energy reading a book on this subject. Sorry. I'd also add Christopher Hitchens' 'God is Not Great' as a very worthy read.
Up to you. Reading it as an atheist, I felt it very interesting and a worthwhile book.
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