Respecting religion???
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Moonhawk said:
Do you know how difficult it is to disprove an arbitrary idea? You could make up pretty much anything - no matter how outlandish - and science (at least our current knowledge of it) wouldn't have the power to disprove it.
Can you disprove the existence of the rainbow ocelot using science?
No, and I wouldn't waste my time trying.Can you disprove the existence of the rainbow ocelot using science?
Claudia Skies said:
Precisely, that's exactly what science says. It says, "We don't know everything and for the things we think we do know, this is our best hypothesis at the moment"..
And that is fabulous. When it's treated dogmatically or when theory is mistaken for fact then I would be concerned. We have to be able to doubt, we have to be able to challenge, a respectful environment of 'anything goes' and a 'why not' attitude can only promote the freedom to do this.Firebox7 said:
Ahem... Are you going to dodge 90% of my posts too? I answered your's. Have some respect eh? 
Your question of why I think I am doing it the right way and they are doing it the wrong way by killing people?Well the killing people bit I think.
You see the sky fairy could be exactly the same but the actions of two men for said sky fairy could be very different. It's like working for money and killing for money. Both ways are means of obtaining said money, but one way is nicer. Does killing for money make working for money bad? Should I feel guilty come payday because someone killed for money? Shall I give up on money?
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 26th January 23:01
anonymous said:
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No, a response to my answer to your question. Honestly though, never mind. It wouldn't make any sense to me anyway if the last few are anything to go by. I wish you the best of luck and hope that one day your life is fulfilling enough in itself, in the meantime, may dodging the point by such a distance keep you healthy and the bonkers make you happy, as long as you don't encourage it, or talk about it, or fund it, or... Never mind.... I'm sure we'd get on well over a chat about cars!Peace,
Paul.
Fair enough, may God be with you!
I note you liked the Dawkins video, what with t
ts calling him fking fker and suchlike. The moment that makes me snigger the most was when he questions the term 'biiiiiiiaaaatch' and says it in the most perfect American hillbilly drawl. I'd never have expected that from him!
I note you liked the Dawkins video, what with t
ts calling him fking fker and suchlike. The moment that makes me snigger the most was when he questions the term 'biiiiiiiaaaatch' and says it in the most perfect American hillbilly drawl. I'd never have expected that from him!Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 26th January 23:25
anonymous said:
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But that really did make me laugh till I cried and showed a completely different side to him. Even Mrs. Firebox (oo eh..!) had a good laugh and she normally grimaces when I mention religion (guess why!? Haha) I might not skip the next lecture intro he features in, actually I will.
I have watched all of his stuff, read most of it too. Call it over exposed! Sometimes I think people can take it too far, me included and it starts to go against what 'we' want to achieve.
ETA - Krauss can be the same for me sometimes, frustrating to watch him loose his cool when he articulates so well in print.
Edited by Firebox7 on Monday 26th January 23:45
anonymous said:
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That is the problem with religions of course. They have it written or revealed so it cannot be challenged. When man made Jesus a god it made everything he said impossible to question. How could you when a god knows everything?It was an excellent strategy, especially for those who had already put words in his mouth.
Anything goes is not a helpful strategy if it means treating all ideas and beliefs the same.
Should we give astronomy and astrology equal air time? Should creationism be taught in schools alongside evolution? There's science and there is myth. There is no problem with the latter as long as it is kept for storytime.
My epiphany came when I read a book on comparative religions and in the bibliography it suggested another on the history of the western catholic religion, with a couple of chapters on the holy roman empire. The books were uncritical, more or less just a record of facts and best guesses, but eye opening.
Despite much that was written in the history book being modified or shown to be probably wrong, all the new suggestions are, if anything, more convincing for me. Religion is a political force. Viewed that way, it, and they, all become clear.
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