Leon Brittain has died

[smegmore]

[franki68]

Didn't private eye expose these alleged rumors as rumors concocted by mi5 many years ago ?

[carinaman]

franki68 said:

Didn't private eye expose these alleged rumors as rumors concocted by mi5 many years ago ?

Said this article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2816508/Ar...

Refers to MI5 spooks and loonies.

Nicely timed considering four Lords to want to rush an amendment through on Monday allowing the police and intelligence services to have a Snooper's Charter.


So there's the rumours about his involvement and the Dickens letters.

And where does this fit in the jigsaw puzzle:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2693635/No...


The way the police, police federation and their spin doctors stitched up Andrew Mitchell MP would give credence to the possibility that Spooks with a grievance wanted to sideline and/or smear Leon Brittan?

So Brittan's move to Europe, that Ken Clarke couldn't give a reason for, could have been to appease the Spooks and loonies?


Simon Danczuk MP is fibbing about being leaned on, or he's being leaned on as some fear he'll derail the gravy train? Just normal self serving vested interests?

Edited by carinaman on Saturday 24th January 00:58

[steveT350C]

'Leon Brittan abused me a dozen times' - Sunday People front page. http://t.co/18KbEkishT


Eta. For those of you who have not heard of 'Nick' before, he has been on LBC recently, would not name the politician on air. http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5464/leon-britta...

Edited by steveT350C on Saturday 24th January 22:29

[eccles]

Once they're dead, they all come out of the woodwork!

[Westy Pre-Lit]

Errrrr I think you'll find the guy was already out of the woodwork before he died and the police were investigating.

[eccles]

Has it been all over the front pages before?

[RAFsmoggy]

This has been up long before his death & still there, so no wood work here

1st mentioned @14:11 - 17:18 - 44:49 - 45:53, this should help you chaps...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORU5x-ryedU
Dear Dear dear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeAc6UwfOuM

[Westy Pre-Lit]

Half the problem is people are too keen to dismiss, too keen to ignore, too keen to zip lips shut and too keen to ridicule those that are telling us what the fk has been going on for all these years.

We should be fking ashamed of ourselves that as a country we have allowed to go on and ignore those that have been abused.

People to wake up !!!

[carinaman]

http://www.channel4.com/news/lord-leon-brittan-hom...

Going on that Channel 4 footage Brittan said he had mis-remembered and that he had passed the information to the DPP.

Ken Clarke said that Brittan had passed the papers to the DPP and that it was up to them, and that Dickens wrote a letter to Leon Brittan thanking him?

Dickens was a 'rent a quote'?

How does that compare to the way our elected representatives and those aspiring to be MPs conduct themselves on Twitter today? Former Tory MP Ms/Mrs Mensch seems to be getting quite upset about flags being lowered due to the death of a monarch in Saudi Arabia.

'It was not a dossier, it was some letters', I thought I heard Ken Clarke say.

The Channel 4 News reporter, correctly asked whether Danczuk was going after the suspected child abusers because it was a party political issue, as they did on Radio 4's Today programme when he was on there ages ago now. Was it as late as Dec. 2013 when that there was that mass school shooting in the US?

http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5464/leon-britta...

Exaro make the point about how Brittan seemed to be shuffling around in slippers when asked about an historic rape, but then more on the ball when asked by the media about the Dickens Dossier.


Searching on google, a result on the first page makes me wonder about the EU ruling and the right to be forgotten when it comes to Internet searches and web content.

[loafer123]

Westy Pre-Lit said:

Half the problem is people are too keen to dismiss, too keen to ignore, too keen to zip lips shut and too keen to ridicule those that are telling us what the fk has been going on for all these years.

We should be fking ashamed of ourselves that as a country we have allowed to go on and ignore those that have been abused.

People to wake up !!!

I strongly disagree with this.

I want to se child abusers prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but it is completely unacceptable that the baying mob convict in the court of public opinion without the burden of evidence or proof.

[rover 623gsi]

it is only the baying that has forced the establishment to start looking at themselves

[Blaster72]

rover 623gsi said:

it is only the baying that has forced the establishment to start looking at themselves

Who are you referring to when you say "The Establishment" ??

[xjsdriver]

Blaster72 said:

Who are you referring to when you say "The Establishment" ??

What?!!!!! Does it need spelling out to you? Or would a crayon diagram do for you? Let's start with allegations made against our royal family, senior security personnel, MPs, judges, family "entertainers" and other show-biz folks - the list goes on and on. Smoke without fire?.... I don't think so.......Yew tree is just the tip of the iceberg!!!

[Blaster72]

I do actually, when people say "The Establishment" they often mean different things.

Does he mean all politicians, business leaders, the church, the royal family - what exactly?

I see you include Entertainers in this list.

Edited by Blaster72 on Sunday 25th January 11:50

[xjsdriver]

Blaster72 said:

I do actually, when people say "The Establishment" they often mean different things.

Does he mean all politicians, business leaders, the church, the royal family - what exactly?

I see you include Entertainers in this list.

Edited by Blaster72 on Sunday 25th January 11:50

So wouldn't you agree that someone's who's been knighted, is for all intents and purposes, truly an Establishment figure? Sir James Savile? Sir Rolf Harris? .......and let's see what transpires over Sir Cliff Richard (Maybe I'm being unkind about Cliffy.....let's see how things pan out, eh?)

[Blaster72]

No I wouldn't because I don't know what you mean by establishment.

Is Sir Clive Sinclair then a member of the establishment by your logic, Sir Chris Hoy, Sir Alan Sugar.

Do you see what I mean. Whenever the term is trotted out I have no idea who people are actually referring to.

[franki68]

carinaman said:

Said this article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2816508/Ar...

Refers to MI5 spooks and loonies.

Nicely timed considering four Lords to want to rush an amendment through on Monday allowing the police and intelligence services to have a Snooper's Charter.


So there's the rumours about his involvement and the Dickens letters.

And where does this fit in the jigsaw puzzle:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2693635/No...


The way the police, police federation and their spin doctors stitched up Andrew Mitchell MP would give credence to the possibility that Spooks with a grievance wanted to sideline and/or smear Leon Brittan?

So Brittan's move to Europe, that Ken Clarke couldn't give a reason for, could have been to appease the Spooks and loonies?


Simon Danczuk MP is fibbing about being leaned on, or he's being leaned on as some fear he'll derail the gravy train? Just normal self serving vested interests?

Edited by carinaman on Saturday 24th January 00:58

funnily enough I used to subscribe to private eye around that time ,politics A level and all that so I do actually remember it.

[rover 623gsi]

Blaster72 said:

No I wouldn't because I don't know what you mean by establishment.

Is Sir Clive Sinclair then a member of the establishment by your logic, Sir Chris Hoy, Sir Alan Sugar.

Do you see what I mean. Whenever the term is trotted out I have no idea who people are actually referring to.

The Royal Family. The Government (central and local). The Church. The police. The mainstream media.

[loafer123]

But it would be quite easy for me to spread rumours about you.

They wouldn't be correct, but I could.

Wouldn't be nice, would it?

On a separate note, what makes you think that because someone has a public profile, they are more likely to be a kiddie fiddler?