Proposals to teach children to spell words wrongly
Discussion
ShiningWit said:
Yes that's right, but things have moved on a bit since we were invaded by the Saxons when it was named wodnesdæg after the God Woden, it then progressed to Wodnesday and then onto what we say now.
Are you saying that how it is said is how it should be said, if you see what I mean? If everyone says Wensday it is Wensday, or is that is should Wed-nes-day and nobody does?
NWTony said:
ShiningWit said:
Yes that's right, but things have moved on a bit since we were invaded by the Saxons when it was named wodnesdæg after the God Woden, it then progressed to Wodnesday and then onto what we say now.
Are you saying that how it is said is how it should be said, if you see what I mean? If everyone says Wensday it is Wensday, or is that is should Wed-nes-day and nobody does?I've commented on it before and I feel we've stopped progressing with language and begun to regress instead.
ShiningWit said:
I'm not qualified to be stating what we should or should not be doing, just that it's been natural progression. I don't know anyone who says wed nes day, but plenty say Wendsday....
I've commented on it before and I feel we've stopped progressing with language and begun to regress instead.
I know plenty people who say wednesday, including myself. we also say theatre, not thearter which annoys me irrationally.I've commented on it before and I feel we've stopped progressing with language and begun to regress instead.
While on the subject of dropped letters why do people ADD letters ? I am thinking about idear instead of idea, and brought instead of bought ?
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Corpulent Tosser said:
I know plenty people who say wednesday, including myself. we also say theatre, not thearter which annoys me irrationally.
That's just weird! Haha, wonder if it's a class or regional thing? So you would say thee at ra?Must go anyhow, it's nearly five so got to get the tea on...
Hoofy said:
If you want a decent GCSE English pass rate, simply award A* to anyone who spells their name correctly
They do. That's the problem.Hoofy said:
Now that I've fixed our educational system, on to the business of speeding drivers. To reduce the number of cases of speeding on UK's road network, I propose that ALL speed limits be raised to 178mph.
201 please 
A suggestion of truly world class stupidity.
Presumably having dumbed down English for the dummies - we then would need to re-educate the rest of the population and indeed the rest of the English speaking world to speak 'English for dummies'
What next? Maths for those who cannot count?
Presumably having dumbed down English for the dummies - we then would need to re-educate the rest of the population and indeed the rest of the English speaking world to speak 'English for dummies'
What next? Maths for those who cannot count?
Edited by Ali G on Saturday 24th January 18:00
I'd love to know where this comes from: "English speaking children take up to two years longer to acquire basic literacy skills than their counterparts in some other European countries". Sounds totally made up to me. I have nieces and nephew in the French school system, and then learn reading and writing much later than our kids in the English system.
ChemicalChaos said:
That'd be fonetiklee, to anyone except the residents of Mousehole.ETA a thought. If this trend continues - what will this sentence mean ? "He axed him."
Edited by marshalla on Sunday 25th January 12:02
English spelling has been subjected to reform attempts many times before. Most of the famous ones were by people about 300 years ago - look up Samuel Johnson, etc.
It never works. We don't like being told what to do when it comes to our language. Plus, there are now so many versions of English around the world that you'd never instigate a standard change.
The French manage it, though. They have something called Académie française which makes official decisions and rulings regarding spelling, word borrowing/inclusion and all related things.
It never works. We don't like being told what to do when it comes to our language. Plus, there are now so many versions of English around the world that you'd never instigate a standard change.
The French manage it, though. They have something called Académie française which makes official decisions and rulings regarding spelling, word borrowing/inclusion and all related things.
Yeah, they're just not 'official'. It just makes the case that even in a country where they have quite a regulated language system that these things still can't be fully controlled.
But you could argue that's more to do with the globalised nature of English than anything to do with French attitudes/rules.
But you could argue that's more to do with the globalised nature of English than anything to do with French attitudes/rules.
torqueofthedevil said:
Exactly - never been an issue before. Just people meddling and also probably a large part of falling standards will be due to parents generally reading to children less, children reading less, daft changes to teaching curriculums etc.
Yes out language is considered very complex but for this reason it is also one of the most colourful and descriptive. It's strange nuances and words which sound similar but give different meanings allows the use of puns and witty use of language, along with better literature and poetry.
You're missing the point that language is a fluid constantly evolving thing. New words appear all the time, some from other languages, spellings change over time. Pick up some Shakespeare and have a read. Let's not end up like the French with stuffy organisations trying to stop evolution of language. Yes out language is considered very complex but for this reason it is also one of the most colourful and descriptive. It's strange nuances and words which sound similar but give different meanings allows the use of puns and witty use of language, along with better literature and poetry.
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