Benedict Cumberbatch sorry for 'coloured' comment

Benedict Cumberbatch sorry for 'coloured' comment

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dudleybloke

19,718 posts

185 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Their making it up as they go along.

FredClogs

14,041 posts

160 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Troubleatmill said:
London424 said:
I can understand somewhat the difficulty...even on an AMERICAN talk show.

http://www.naacp.org/
Took me a while to spot it
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Spot what? The bit where is says Founded in 1909

I can see why it's so hard for people to "keep up" with all these changes in acceptable language every 106 years...

To be fair they could change their name, like the Spastic Society did when they changed to Scope, but then again why should they have to just because a few idiots refuse to accept 106 years of cultural evolution?

GadgeS3C

4,516 posts

163 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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TTwiggy said:
GadgeS3C said:
TTwiggy said:
You beat me to this. Nobody has cried 'I'm offended', a charity has simply pointed out that the term is outdated. For some reason, Cumberbatch has chosen to respond with an essay. Only he knows why. Meanwhile, PH goes into predictable 'PC gone mad, in my day you could call a spade a spade' meltdown.

In short, nothing to see here, move along.
I'm sure you realise how offensive that comment in quotes is.
If typing 'calling a spade a spade' were offensive, then the forum would filter it. But as the word refers to a garden implement, it doesn't.
I'm still offended wink

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

164 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Troubleatmill said:
Took me a while to spot it
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RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

158 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Carla Sims, communications director for the NAACP in Washington, D.C., came to Lindsay Lohan’s defense today following Lohan’s on-camera interview with “Access Hollywood” in which Lohan called president-elect Barack Obama “coloured.”

Sims believes that the media’s lambasting of the starlet is only to create controversy.

“Sometimes you have to look at the intent…but the word ‘colored’ isn’t derogatory,” Sims told me in a phone interview. “Clearly she’s [Lohan] an Obama supporter.”

“There’s really no problem with what she said,” Sims said. “In her excitement, she was acknowledging that color was not a barrier in the populace choosing Obama.”

“The term ‘colored’ is not derogatory,” Sims continued. “They chose the word ‘colored’ because it was he most positive description commonly used at that time. It’s outdated and antiquated but not offensive.”

Sims is referring to the founders of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People that created the organization nearly 100 years ago in support of social justice for African Americans.


Source: http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2008/11/12/lohan-...

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Ah but Matt Nunn the self appointed voice of the downtrodden in his fight against the plutocrats has deemed it offensive so what does she know?

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

164 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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FredClogs said:
Spot what? The bit where is says Founded in 1909

I can see why it's so hard for people to "keep up" with all these changes in acceptable language every 106 years...

To be fair they could change their name, like the Spastic Society did when they changed to Scope, but then again why should they have to just because a few idiots refuse to accept 106 years of cultural evolution?
Fred, serious question please.

From the above how come it is OK for them to use the 106 year old word but not anyone else? Surely these 'rules' apply to everyone equally?

London424

12,826 posts

174 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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FredClogs said:
Troubleatmill said:
London424 said:
I can understand somewhat the difficulty...even on an AMERICAN talk show.

http://www.naacp.org/
Took me a while to spot it
Bigger image for those with bad eyes.
Spot what? The bit where is says Founded in 1909

I can see why it's so hard for people to "keep up" with all these changes in acceptable language every 106 years...

To be fair they could change their name, like the Spastic Society did when they changed to Scope, but then again why should they have to just because a few idiots refuse to accept 106 years of cultural evolution?
As you've said, it would clear things up for everyone about what the correct terminology to use is.

goldblum

10,272 posts

166 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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London424 said:
As you've said, it would clear things up for everyone about what the correct terminology to use is.
Most adults can make their own mind up about that, thanks.

FredClogs

14,041 posts

160 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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GadgeS3C said:
TTwiggy said:
GadgeS3C said:
TTwiggy said:
You beat me to this. Nobody has cried 'I'm offended', a charity has simply pointed out that the term is outdated. For some reason, Cumberbatch has chosen to respond with an essay. Only he knows why. Meanwhile, PH goes into predictable 'PC gone mad, in my day you could call a spade a spade' meltdown.

In short, nothing to see here, move along.
I'm sure you realise how offensive that comment in quotes is.
If typing 'calling a spade a spade' were offensive, then the forum would filter it. But as the word refers to a garden implement, it doesn't.
I'm still offended wink

You'd be even more offended if you took the time to research what Oscar Wilde meant and the full quote of the "calling a spade a spade" cliche. It's not really a badge to be worn with honour.

TTwiggy

11,500 posts

203 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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FredClogs said:
GadgeS3C said:
TTwiggy said:
GadgeS3C said:
TTwiggy said:
You beat me to this. Nobody has cried 'I'm offended', a charity has simply pointed out that the term is outdated. For some reason, Cumberbatch has chosen to respond with an essay. Only he knows why. Meanwhile, PH goes into predictable 'PC gone mad, in my day you could call a spade a spade' meltdown.

In short, nothing to see here, move along.
I'm sure you realise how offensive that comment in quotes is.
If typing 'calling a spade a spade' were offensive, then the forum would filter it. But as the word refers to a garden implement, it doesn't.
I'm still offended wink

You'd be even more offended if you took the time to research what Oscar Wilde meant and the full quote of the "calling a spade a spade" cliche. It's not really a badge to be worn with honour.
Not sure I follow. It's used by Wilde (though its origins are ancient Greek) in 'A Picture of Dorian Grey' when one character complains about 'not giving lovely names to things' and goes on to say 'a man who would call a spade a spade should be compelled to use one.' If you know of a second meaning to this, then I'm all ears.

FredClogs

14,041 posts

160 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Grumfutock said:
FredClogs said:
Spot what? The bit where is says Founded in 1909

I can see why it's so hard for people to "keep up" with all these changes in acceptable language every 106 years...

To be fair they could change their name, like the Spastic Society did when they changed to Scope, but then again why should they have to just because a few idiots refuse to accept 106 years of cultural evolution?
Fred, serious question please.

From the above how come it is OK for them to use the 106 year old word but not anyone else? Surely these 'rules' apply to everyone equally?
There is an explanation from the Chairperson of the NAACP reported as why they haven't changed the name it's not really for me to explain, civil life is all about rubbing along with other people, unless they're toffs and the privileged elite in which case I think they deserve one in the ribs from time to time.

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

158 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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FredClogs said:
There is an explanation from the Chairperson of the NAACP reported as why they haven't changed the name it's not really for me to explain, civil life is all about rubbing along with other people, unless they're toffs and the privileged elite in which case I think they deserve one in the ribs from time to time.
You really are quite a pleasant chap.

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

164 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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FredClogs said:
There is an explanation from the Chairperson of the NAACP reported as why they haven't changed the name it's not really for me to explain, civil life is all about rubbing along with other people, unless they're toffs and the privileged elite in which case I think they deserve one in the ribs from time to time.
Not really what I ask was it. But ho hum.

vescaegg

25,489 posts

166 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Troubleatmill said:
FredClogs said:
There is an explanation from the Chairperson of the NAACP reported as why they haven't changed the name it's not really for me to explain, civil life is all about rubbing along with other people, unless they're toffs and the privileged elite in which case I think they deserve one in the ribs from time to time.
You really are quite a pleasant chap.
I think H22observer (I think it was) is back!

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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FredClogs said:
There is an explanation from the Chairperson of the NAACP reported as why they haven't changed the name it's not really for me to explain, civil life is all about rubbing along with other people, unless they're toffs and the privileged elite in which case I think they deserve one in the ribs from time to time.
Pathetic.

FredClogs

14,041 posts

160 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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TTwiggy said:
FredClogs said:
GadgeS3C said:
TTwiggy said:
GadgeS3C said:
TTwiggy said:
You beat me to this. Nobody has cried 'I'm offended', a charity has simply pointed out that the term is outdated. For some reason, Cumberbatch has chosen to respond with an essay. Only he knows why. Meanwhile, PH goes into predictable 'PC gone mad, in my day you could call a spade a spade' meltdown.

In short, nothing to see here, move along.
I'm sure you realise how offensive that comment in quotes is.
If typing 'calling a spade a spade' were offensive, then the forum would filter it. But as the word refers to a garden implement, it doesn't.
I'm still offended wink

You'd be even more offended if you took the time to research what Oscar Wilde meant and the full quote of the "calling a spade a spade" cliche. It's not really a badge to be worn with honour.
Not sure I follow. It's used by Wilde (though its origins are ancient Greek) in 'A Picture of Dorian Grey' when one character complains about 'not giving lovely names to things' and goes on to say 'a man who would call a spade a spade should be compelled to use one.' If you know of a second meaning to this, then I'm all ears.
Exactly he's saying if you don't have the imagination to use language well and think about what you're saying then you should be consigned to a life of shoveling st.

I don't wish to live my life entirely in the manner of Dorian Gray (but I'll bet it's crossed Cumbersnots mind once or twice) but in this matter I think it's more valid than the thinking that a man says what he wants to say and faces up to the consequences.

Guybrush

4,330 posts

205 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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fblm said:
FredClogs said:
There is an explanation from the Chairperson of the NAACP reported as why they haven't changed the name it's not really for me to explain, civil life is all about rubbing along with other people, unless they're toffs and the privileged elite in which case I think they deserve one in the ribs from time to time.
Pathetic.
Classist?

AshVX220

5,929 posts

189 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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FredClogs said:
Cumbersnots
FredClogs said:
Cumbercock
You really are quite unpleasant aren't you? It must be difficult for you to walk in a straight line with such a massive chip on your shoulder weighing you down.

goldblum

10,272 posts

166 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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FredClogs said:
Exactly he's saying if you don't have the imagination to use language well and think about what you're saying then you should be consigned to a life of shoveling st.
Shovelling. What a corker. Sent off to 'Spelling Police' as well.