15 year Army serviceman can't have a council house

[55palfers]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2928307/Af...

I despair.

Perhaps he should claim asylum?

[Ginetta G15 Girl]

So much fo Cameron's promise to honour the Military Covenant.

[johnfm]

Sad story - but why don't people take out insurance against critical illness that can stop them working?

[Grumfutock]

I was refused one after 22 years service. Even though we moved back to the town we were both born and raised in, both sets of family living there at least 4 generations, I was told....."you haven't lived here for over 20 years so you have no ties to the town therefore you cannot go on the list".

After starring in mortified silence at the officious arse in front of me for 30 secs I then spent another 30 deciding if pulling him across the desk was a good idea. In the end I opted to politely but firmly tell him where and how he could insert his list.

The worst bit? He was a Nigerian with a very strong accent so not born here! Cheeky bd!

Edited by Grumfutock on Tuesday 27th January 21:03

[Grumfutock]

johnfm said:

Sad story - but why don't people take out insurance against critical illness that can stop them working?

Try and get it if your a soldier going to the Stan! It does exist but it isn't much good. Sadly we are to big a risk for most companies (well that is up until 2008 when I left, it maybe different now but I doubt it).

[turbobloke]

Ginetta G15 Girl said:

So much fo Cameron's promise to honour the Military Covenant.

It's a disgrace, hopefully the PM will indeed intervene - the priority being to remove further stress from this family in terms of not being made homeless. Cornwall Council, nice one.

[Grumfutock]

Of course the PM will intervene, there is an election soon!

[turbobloke]

Grumfutock said:

Of course the PM will intervene, there is an election soon!

Hope so.

Further on that note, Cornwall Council...are the LibDims in residence?

[Efbe]

Grumfutock said:

johnfm said:

Sad story - but why don't people take out insurance against critical illness that can stop them working?

Try and get it if your a soldier going to the Stan! It does exist but it isn't much good. Sadly we are to big a risk for most companies (well that is up until 2008 when I left, it maybe different now but I doubt it).

It's also why we have a welfar state to provide the backup for people that do need help.

This is exactly what it should be there for.

[Axionknight]

turbobloke said:

Hope so.

Further on that note, Cornwall Council...are the LibDims in residence?

37 Lib Dem
36 Indy
31 Tory
7 Labour
5 UKIP

[turbobloke]

Axionknight said:

turbobloke said:

Hope so.

Further on that note, Cornwall Council...are the LibDims in residence?

37 Lib Dem
36 Indy
31 Tory
7 Labour
5 UKIP

Pretty much a joint fustercluck. With so few Labourites you'd think there'd be less chance of a Nuclear Free Zone sign on the county boundaries, but with so many Dims it's possible.

Anyway back to the ex-serviceman and his shameful treatment which needs sorting asafp.

[JensenA]

johnfm said:

Sad story - but why don't people take out insurance against critical illness that can stop them working?

Oh FFS get into the real world! Marie Antoinettes "let them eat cake" quote springs to mind.

Edited by JensenA on Tuesday 27th January 21:29

[Countdown]

Grumfutock said:

I was refused one after 22 years service. Even though we moved back to the town we were both born and raised in, both sets of family living there at least 4 generations, I was told....."you haven't lived here for over 20 years so you have no ties to the town therefore you cannot go on the list".

After starring in mortified silence at the officious arse in front of me for 30 secs I then spent another 30 deciding if pulling him across the desk was a good idea. In the end I opted to politely but firmly tell him where and how he could insert his list.

The worst bit? He was a Nigerian with a very strong accent so not born here! Cheeky bd!

Edited by Grumfutock on Tuesday 27th January 21:03

I hadn't realised that pay was so bad in the Army that, after 22 years, you couldn't afford anything better than Council Housing. Maybe if Right to Buy hadn't been pushed so hard there would be more council houses available.

[turbobloke]

Countdown said:

Grumfutock said:

I was refused one after 22 years service. Even though we moved back to the town we were both born and raised in, both sets of family living there at least 4 generations, I was told....."you haven't lived here for over 20 years so you have no ties to the town therefore you cannot go on the list".

After starring in mortified silence at the officious arse in front of me for 30 secs I then spent another 30 deciding if pulling him across the desk was a good idea. In the end I opted to politely but firmly tell him where and how he could insert his list.

The worst bit? He was a Nigerian with a very strong accent so not born here! Cheeky bd!

I hadn't realised that pay was so bad in the Army that, after 22 years, you couldn't afford anything better than Council Housing. Maybe if Right to Buy hadn't been pushed so hard there would be more council houses available.

Or, if they're in demand for whatever reasons, the Council needs to get its priorities sorted. This shouldn't have happened.

[powerstroke]

Efbe said:

Grumfutock said:

johnfm said:

Sad story - but why don't people take out insurance against critical illness that can stop them working?

Try and get it if your a soldier going to the Stan! It does exist but it isn't much good. Sadly we are to big a risk for most companies (well that is up until 2008 when I left, it maybe different now but I doubt it).

It's also why we have a welfar state to provide the backup for people that do need help.

This is exactly what it should be there for.

No we have a welfare state set up for people who want help
Not for people who find themselves in need of help!!!

[johnfm]

Grumfutock said:

johnfm said:

Sad story - but why don't people take out insurance against critical illness that can stop them working?

Try and get it if your a soldier going to the Stan! It does exist but it isn't much good. Sadly we are to big a risk for most companies (well that is up until 2008 when I left, it maybe different now but I doubt it).

Why would soldiers be more at risk for critical ILLNESS.?

It is obvious that a soldier would struggle to get insurance from injuries suffered - and they get compensated if they do.

Critical illness cover is useful if you have family and are the sole breadwinner.

[johnfm]

Efbe said:

Grumfutock said:

johnfm said:

Sad story - but why don't people take out insurance against critical illness that can stop them working?

Try and get it if your a soldier going to the Stan! It does exist but it isn't much good. Sadly we are to big a risk for most companies (well that is up until 2008 when I left, it maybe different now but I doubt it).

It's also why we have a welfar state to provide the backup for people that do need help.

This is exactly what it should be there for.

Sadly, the people with brain tumours have been crowded out of the welfare market by those who don't really need the benefit but still qualify for it.

It is an imperfect system - whuch is why a sole breadwinner should carry insurance

[johnfm]

JensenA said:

johnfm said:

Sad story - but why don't people take out insurance against critical illness that can stop them working?

Oh FFS get into the real world! Marie Antoinettes "let them eat cake" quote springs to mind.

Edited by JensenA on Tuesday 27th January 21:29

Really? What is so "Marie Antoinette" about insurance?

You do understand what insurance is for, yes? Protection against a sole breadwinner with 4 kids losing the ability to work would have cost him very little - I think I pay £63/month for £1m lump sum. Would have been less had I taken it out when I was younger. Now my kids are older and I have reduce debt levels a bit, I will reduce the cover a bit.

If I get a disease I'd rather not depend on the welfare state in the UK - it's a bit st.

[pork911]

it is suggested:-

they have / will move out of their current private rental housing because they can't afford that property

they aren't being offered a council house (currently, pre-media campaign)

the family are going to be homeless and walking the streets



really?

while of course there are millions of the least deserving immigrants in luxury council house mansions etc..other than their army funds dwindling there is strangely no detail of their finances in the article or letter

[Sway]

johnfm said:

Really? What is so "Marie Antoinette" about insurance?

You do understand what insurance is for, yes? Protection against a sole breadwinner with 4 kids losing the ability to work would have cost him very little - I think I pay £63/month for £1m lump sum. Would have been less had I taken it out when I was younger. Now my kids are older and I have reduce debt levels a bit, I will reduce the cover a bit.

If I get a disease I'd rather not depend on the welfare state in the UK - it's a bit st.

:nod:

71 quid a month, which will pay me an index linked equivalent of my current (reasonable but not massive) salary for the rest of my 'working life', should I need it.

Having two kids and a missus who is only able to work a few hours a week due to health issues makes it a cost that is very high on the list of priorities.

Hope this chap and his family get sorted pronto.