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wc98 said:
how does a thread on such a terrible and emotive topic degenerate to this level,surely a bit of respect is in order. the sentiment shown by the op is what matters, not a typo/spelling mistake.
But you are forgetting that the self righteous and pious mass of PH are motivated more by a desire to jump on the slightest spelling mistake or PC incorrect statement than being shocked by the worst genocide in human history.wc98 said:
how does a thread on such a terrible and emotive topic degenerate to this level,surely a bit of respect is in order. the sentiment shown by the op is what matters, not a typo/spelling mistake.
Exactly. Typical of Pistonheads of late. Give it a rest.
You can't begin to imagine the horrors that they witnessed in Auschwitz and the numerous other death camps. Sadly, the human race haven't learned. There has been countless cases of genocide since the Holocaust, and as someone else pointed out, ISIS are making a good fist at being just as barbaric as the Nazis were.
fblm said:
MartinQ said:
fblm said:
Auswitch? FFS
The spelling has been corrected (politely) by a previous poster. No need to be such an arse.Anyway, back on topic. I went to Auschwitz years ago because I was working close by and it is incredibly moving. It really does make you think about what happened and the fact that's it not so long ago. The fact that similar things are still happening (the scale is lesser but the intention is the same) is horrifying.
I took my family on a trip to Dachau, near Munich a few years ago, I think it was a tesco express compared to the scale of the murder in Auschwitz and Trenblinka. Even though Dachau was classed as a labour (as opposed to extermination) camp there were still 50,000c people muredered. After seeing a film about what happened, you then went into the chambers and saw what was left of some of the huts atc. Nobody really spoke for the rest of the day.
I remember stopping to ask an old bloke who lived just outside the camp for directions to the train station, from the old houses you could clearly see the camp and some chimneys (I think). one of the many things I found harrowing was the clear realisation that the people who lived anywhere near there must have known exactly what was going on.
I think it's easy to dismiss genocide as something other people do, but It history shows us repeatedly, that it appears chillingly easy to convince large amounts of civilised people that exterminating others is acceptable.
I remember stopping to ask an old bloke who lived just outside the camp for directions to the train station, from the old houses you could clearly see the camp and some chimneys (I think). one of the many things I found harrowing was the clear realisation that the people who lived anywhere near there must have known exactly what was going on.
I think it's easy to dismiss genocide as something other people do, but It history shows us repeatedly, that it appears chillingly easy to convince large amounts of civilised people that exterminating others is acceptable.
Why do they keep it there, I can't fathom that.
Yes it serves as a reminder and all that, but it's so close to the town, regular people will have to walk past it every day. Can't get my head around why they didn't / don't flatten it. It's not like it would make it easier for the deniers to, erm deny!
When you get a serial killer or some other sicko in the UK, once the trial has completed they destroy the house where the crimes took place, completely shred them so that there's nothing for trophy hunters to collect. IMO they should do the same to Auschwitz, it's been 70 years, it has no business being there.
Yes it serves as a reminder and all that, but it's so close to the town, regular people will have to walk past it every day. Can't get my head around why they didn't / don't flatten it. It's not like it would make it easier for the deniers to, erm deny!
When you get a serial killer or some other sicko in the UK, once the trial has completed they destroy the house where the crimes took place, completely shred them so that there's nothing for trophy hunters to collect. IMO they should do the same to Auschwitz, it's been 70 years, it has no business being there.
el stovey said:
I took my family on a trip to Dachau, near Munich a few years ago, I think it was a tesco express compared to the scale of the murder in Auschwitz and Trenblinka. Even though Dachau was classed as a labour (as opposed to extermination) camp there were still 50,000c people muredered. After seeing a film about what happened, you then went into the chambers and saw what was left of some of the huts atc. Nobody really spoke for the rest of the day.
I remember stopping to ask an old bloke who lived just outside the camp for directions to the train station, from the old houses you could clearly see the camp and some chimneys (I think). one of the many things I found harrowing was the clear realisation that the people who lived anywhere near there must have known exactly what was going on.
I think it's easy to dismiss genocide as something other people do, but It history shows us repeatedly, that it appears chillingly easy to convince large amounts of civilised people that exterminating others is acceptable.
I've visited both and in some ways I found Dachau more unsettling, perhaps because it's where it all started, the first step on the road to Auschwitz. Unlike Auschwitz, even allowing for the passage of time and subsequent development, Dachau was a suburban location in a place that could havce been a factory, sports ground, anything.I remember stopping to ask an old bloke who lived just outside the camp for directions to the train station, from the old houses you could clearly see the camp and some chimneys (I think). one of the many things I found harrowing was the clear realisation that the people who lived anywhere near there must have known exactly what was going on.
I think it's easy to dismiss genocide as something other people do, but It history shows us repeatedly, that it appears chillingly easy to convince large amounts of civilised people that exterminating others is acceptable.
For an almost surreal insight into the "banality of evil" the villa on Wannsee is also worth a visit.
I don't think I will ever comprehend the mentality of those involved. Did they leave their conscience at the gate? How on earth did they reconcile internally what they were doing?
qube_TA said:
Why do they keep it there, I can't fathom that.
Yes it serves as a reminder and all that, but it's so close to the town, regular people will have to walk past it every day. Can't get my head around why they didn't / don't flatten it. It's not like it would make it easier for the deniers to, erm deny!
When you get a serial killer or some other sicko in the UK, once the trial has completed they destroy the house where the crimes took place, completely shred them so that there's nothing for trophy hunters to collect. IMO they should do the same to Auschwitz, it's been 70 years, it has no business being there.
And once again fking WOW!Yes it serves as a reminder and all that, but it's so close to the town, regular people will have to walk past it every day. Can't get my head around why they didn't / don't flatten it. It's not like it would make it easier for the deniers to, erm deny!
When you get a serial killer or some other sicko in the UK, once the trial has completed they destroy the house where the crimes took place, completely shred them so that there's nothing for trophy hunters to collect. IMO they should do the same to Auschwitz, it's been 70 years, it has no business being there.
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