Apple announces MASSIVE profits
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You have all your music in iTunes, your data in icloud, iPhone in your hand, Apple TV in your lounge, imac in your office and come April an apple watch on your wrist.. And not forgetting that Apple pay could take off as the next big payment scheme - Will other brands ever be able to break that eco system? It would be incredibly tough! As most apple users are heavily invested in the brand
bazza white said:
Apple has personality as well, most could even name the person that runs apple. where as Samsung is just another phone company that also make vacuum's and washing machines (or vacuum company that makes phones)
Samsung are massive in Korea, they make all kinds of stuff, even cars.Burwood said:
what they really mean is that Apple is just too successful so let's stop them. There is such a thing as free will-Tim Cook doesn't hold a gun to your head to buy their products. They manufacture products people want.
The only thing that will worry Apple is governments wanting a slice of the profit and trying to stop earnings being shifted around the globe to avoid as much tax as possible. I'm sure apple can afford the best legal brains in the world to take on the Governments. Should be interesting to watch. Zoon said:
julian64 said:
So the only aveune left is that an apple fanboy will pay the massive premium for the badge, or because they think the operating system is far superior to android?
If my Nexus 7 is anything to go by I'd say iOS is far superior.Nexus 7 has become a laggy slow POS whereas the original iPad I've got still works like a charm.
The wife's ancient iPod touch and iPad still work as fresh as new in comparison.
I am really anti big brands and my Apple store 'experience' had me reaching (literally) for the vomit bucket, but their phones do work and I may be forced to get one next.
What bizzare posts by some people. Apple have created products that people want to buy and deem desirable to own - what does it matter about fanboys, technology, or how their products compare against others? People out there buy products they have created. Simple.
Question I would like to ask is - what next for them? In my opinion they should invest heavily in the next generation of products we might not even know we need. I'm thinking of things like google glass, robotics, etc.
Question I would like to ask is - what next for them? In my opinion they should invest heavily in the next generation of products we might not even know we need. I'm thinking of things like google glass, robotics, etc.
scorp said:
richardxjr said:
What? My Xperia (and my son's) came loaded with dozens of bloatware s
te I have no need for, and can't remove.
Would that be Sony's bundled apps you're talking about ?te I have no need for, and can't remove.te I can't get rid of. Unuseable. Less than a year into a 24m contract.s1962a said:
What bizzare posts by some people. Apple have created products that people want to buy and deem desirable to own - what does it matter about fanboys, technology, or how their products compare against others? People out there buy products they have created. Simple.
Question I would like to ask is - what next for them? In my opinion they should invest heavily in the next generation of products we might not even know we need. I'm thinking of things like google glass, robotics, etc.
I think there is some massive ground to be made for the likes of Apple and Amazon on home entertainment and on demand viewing. Surely scheduled TV as we know it must be due a massive shake up? I should be able to download TV, film, music etc... In seconds over my mobile phone not broadband. I can't believe that we still rely on that cable that was laid several hundred years ago to bring most of us data. Question I would like to ask is - what next for them? In my opinion they should invest heavily in the next generation of products we might not even know we need. I'm thinking of things like google glass, robotics, etc.
anonymous said:
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Some reading if interested... http://www.anandtech.com/show/8716/apple-a8xs-gpu-...I think they are, especially when given their power consumption. This is the impression I have got after semi-following ARM chip design since about the A6. When Apple are matched in raw computational power, they tend to be doing it whilst using less battery power. IIRC Apple bought a well regarded company involved in semiconductor design (PA Semi), and have been generally sucking up plenty of talented people in this area... IIRC there have been people from AMD/ATI moving to Apple recently, so perhaps we'll see further GPU developments, or even their own GPU at some point in the future.
Also what is interesting in this area is that previously when they went their own way with chip design (even if it wasn't their own - IBM/PowerPC) they never had the volume to have a viable shot at keeping up with the more mainstream technology (Intel/x86). Today I think Apple ARM chips are the mainstream, i.e. there are more of them shipped than there are Qualcomm. So they have that economy of scale which makes massive intellectual investment feasible.
At the other end they have a not insignificant advantage in that they control the whole stack and can produce software that is designed to flatter the hardware. They've made some significant moves forward there with Swift and Metal last year, which will help reduce the hardware demand for the same performance.
richardxjr said:
Oh, and this Sony won't take the latest Android version either, jizzcream or whatever, brilliant 
This is an interesting point. In telecoms, Apple has a direct relationship with the customer, hence why you can patch your iphone via iTunes. For Android, it's the network operators who control how and when you update *your* device (unless you go off and find the latest version to patch it yourself).The iPhone was considered *so* desirable at launch, that the network operators were falling over themselves to give away some of their control just to get Apple on board.
Looking back to the iPhone launch, the device was head and shoulders above anything else on the market, but Apple havn't really brought anything new to the market for some time (besides a few gimmicks), the next big thing for them is possibly ApplePay which will really mess up the market.
Not content with skimming off a chunk of cash every time you buy a song or app on iTunes, they also want to skim off a little bit every time you buy *anything*. Are we seeing Apple become a truly evil(tm) corporation?
BoRED S2upid said:
s1962a said:
What bizzare posts by some people. Apple have created products that people want to buy and deem desirable to own - what does it matter about fanboys, technology, or how their products compare against others? People out there buy products they have created. Simple.
Question I would like to ask is - what next for them? In my opinion they should invest heavily in the next generation of products we might not even know we need. I'm thinking of things like google glass, robotics, etc.
I think there is some massive ground to be made for the likes of Apple and Amazon on home entertainment and on demand viewing. Surely scheduled TV as we know it must be due a massive shake up? I should be able to download TV, film, music etc... In seconds over my mobile phone not broadband. I can't believe that we still rely on that cable that was laid several hundred years ago to bring most of us data. Question I would like to ask is - what next for them? In my opinion they should invest heavily in the next generation of products we might not even know we need. I'm thinking of things like google glass, robotics, etc.
Esseesse said:
anonymous said:
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Some reading if interested... http://www.anandtech.com/show/8716/apple-a8xs-gpu-...I think they are, especially when given their power consumption. This is the impression I have got after semi-following ARM chip design since about the A6. When Apple are matched in raw computational power, they tend to be doing it whilst using less battery power. IIRC Apple bought a well regarded company involved in semiconductor design (PA Semi), and have been generally sucking up plenty of talented people in this area... IIRC there have been people from AMD/ATI moving to Apple recently, so perhaps we'll see further GPU developments, or even their own GPU at some point in the future.
Also what is interesting in this area is that previously when they went their own way with chip design (even if it wasn't their own - IBM/PowerPC) they never had the volume to have a viable shot at keeping up with the more mainstream technology (Intel/x86). Today I think Apple ARM chips are the mainstream, i.e. there are more of them shipped than there are Qualcomm. So they have that economy of scale which makes massive intellectual investment feasible.
At the other end they have a not insignificant advantage in that they control the whole stack and can produce software that is designed to flatter the hardware. They've made some significant moves forward there with Swift and Metal last year, which will help reduce the hardware demand for the same performance.
TheD said:
Spot on Julian. I support all types of platforms and devices, and the belief that Apple has more superior everything, runs deep. I try to explain that it is just a different OS and casing but it doesn't sink in. They even argue that they spend more time putting it together and use better parts. There is just no point trying to explain. I should also point out I have no hate towards Apple but some dislike for the sheep. Tomorrow I have to wipe and reinstall 2 x 27" apples at a graphic designers because of various problems. They are only a year old. At this company everything is Apple but they are starting to consider moving to good spec pcs with good monitors instead.
There is no point trying to explain as it's not true. If you're going purely on specification then there's no difference between a BMW and a Kia (although neither manufacture every component in their cars they both certainly pick which ones to use and which suppliers they come from, something Microsoft can't really do).Yes an Apple computer will have the same type of Intel chipset, the same RAM, storage etc as a Sony or Dell machine, so in that regard they're the same thing, if that's all they are to you. All TV's are the same, the only difference is their size, all furniture is the same, why pay more for a chair, you can sit on any of them?
From a productivity POV I much prefer using OSX over Windows or Linux, there is no point explaining to someone that I prefer to use OSX and its associated software to someone who views a computer purely as a CPU/RAM/Storage device.
From a hardware POV I prefer how their computers are screwed together, they look much nicer, they're solid, don't give me any hassle and when I sell the old one to upgrade I get a decent price for it. If you see any advert for anything where the person in it has a laptop, they'll always use a Macbook, this is purely because they're nicer to look at. How many people would pay extra for a car or an item of clothing or anything simply because it's in their view nicer?
As for the phones, there's little between them, sure Androids have some features the Apple doesn't, however an iPhone will play with a Macbook much better than an Android would, or for that matter an Android with a Windows machine. I used PC's from Windows 3.11 onwards, I got frustrated with the way Windows was changing and chanced a Mac (was about 2007), I preferred them and haven't gone back (although I have to use Windows machines often at work).
Yes Apple are making a crazy amount of money, why they're sitting on it is a bit of a mystery, yes this means they could reduce their prices a bit, however as they keep selling more Macbooks then this is unlikely to happen soon, and yes in recent years some of their software offerings have been prone to more glitches than they used to be, but you can put any machine or operating system in front of me that you like I'm not going to be able to use it as well or as hassle free as I can with an Apple box.
Soz.
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