Disabled pensioner mugged - heartwarming public reaction
Discussion
BlackLabel said:
Do you think it's really appropriate to say things like "she pretends to be innocent and lovely but it's all a front"?
Or claim that the person earns between £5k-10k a month and can therefore easily afford to pay the bill. A beautician from Gateshead earning £10k a month, really?
Have you seen the women out on a Saturday night !Or claim that the person earns between £5k-10k a month and can therefore easily afford to pay the bill. A beautician from Gateshead earning £10k a month, really?
BlackLabel said:
Or claim that the person earns between £5k-10k a month and can therefore easily afford to pay the bill. A beautician from Gateshead earning £10k a month, really?
Depends on whether she is taking a salary from the charity she set up:£335k raised - £150k to the old bloke = £185k remaining
Not even £7k left to pay the PR company = £178k burnt in about 18 months.
What's the name of this charity that she set up with £185k anyway? It's never mentioned in the articles.
Edited by carl_w on Sunday 18th September 10:30
del mar said:
BlackLabel said:
Do you think it's really appropriate to say things like "she pretends to be innocent and lovely but it's all a front"?
Or claim that the person earns between £5k-10k a month and can therefore easily afford to pay the bill. A beautician from Gateshead earning £10k a month, really?
Have you seen the women out on a Saturday night !Or claim that the person earns between £5k-10k a month and can therefore easily afford to pay the bill. A beautician from Gateshead earning £10k a month, really?
The rest of time these activities are more of a hobby than a business.
Her argument appears to be
"the important thing is I haven't signed anything"
whilst at the same time telling the press that she hired the firm for her charitable foundation.
If the PR firm can produce correspondence between them and payments to them from her for services I think this girl is about to learn that you don't actually need a signed contract.
"the important thing is I haven't signed anything"
whilst at the same time telling the press that she hired the firm for her charitable foundation.
If the PR firm can produce correspondence between them and payments to them from her for services I think this girl is about to learn that you don't actually need a signed contract.
I suspect the truth is somewhere between these scenarios:
Naieve girl asks a PR company to help with raising funds, and assumes/thinks/doesnt bother to check that, just becassue she is doing something for free, everyone else will do too. PR company werent, and send in invoive which is not paid...
...PR company do the job they have been asked to do, and did well (they raised way more then they needed) but charging for this is causing a lot of negative PR for them, as the world expects them to do it for free, so reply with story that their PR work is for her as an individual, not the charity.
Person at centre of argument has had the benefit of a very welcome response a while back, but cant be arsed with it all and wants to get on with their life....
Naieve girl asks a PR company to help with raising funds, and assumes/thinks/doesnt bother to check that, just becassue she is doing something for free, everyone else will do too. PR company werent, and send in invoive which is not paid...
...PR company do the job they have been asked to do, and did well (they raised way more then they needed) but charging for this is causing a lot of negative PR for them, as the world expects them to do it for free, so reply with story that their PR work is for her as an individual, not the charity.
Person at centre of argument has had the benefit of a very welcome response a while back, but cant be arsed with it all and wants to get on with their life....
So what happened to the Charitable Foundation that Katie Cutler claims she was going to set up? Did it get set up? Anyone know what it was called?
What a huge mess. Whatever's gone on though, Claire Barber PR needs to quieten down and stop digging the hole she's in any deeper.
She sounds stupid anyway calling herself "Claire Barber, CEO of Claire Barber PR". Yeah you might technically be able to be CEO of yourself, or CEO of your one man band hobby business; but you sound bloody stupid doing so.
What a huge mess. Whatever's gone on though, Claire Barber PR needs to quieten down and stop digging the hole she's in any deeper.
She sounds stupid anyway calling herself "Claire Barber, CEO of Claire Barber PR". Yeah you might technically be able to be CEO of yourself, or CEO of your one man band hobby business; but you sound bloody stupid doing so.
kev1974 said:
So what happened to the Charitable Foundation that Katie Cutler claims she was going to set up? Did it get set up? Anyone know what it was called?
What a huge mess. Whatever's gone on though, Claire Barber PR needs to quieten down and stop digging the hole she's in any deeper.
She sounds stupid anyway calling herself "Claire Barber, CEO of Claire Barber PR". Yeah you might technically be able to be CEO of yourself, or CEO of your one man band hobby business; but you sound bloody stupid doing so.
Given the £550 sounds like a standardised day rate, and therefore the 7k is probably representative of maybe 10 days work, I'd be asking to see a breakdown of the submitted timesheets. Its not a huge amount of time if she was fielding national press enquiries when the story broke, but unless the PR company can demonstrate how they were gainfully employed, that could be challenged. What a huge mess. Whatever's gone on though, Claire Barber PR needs to quieten down and stop digging the hole she's in any deeper.
She sounds stupid anyway calling herself "Claire Barber, CEO of Claire Barber PR". Yeah you might technically be able to be CEO of yourself, or CEO of your one man band hobby business; but you sound bloody stupid doing so.
Mugging victim Alan Barnes has offered to pay the entirety of the PR bill for Katie Cutler, who raised £330,000 for him in order to buy him a new home where he would feel safe after he was mugged.
She racked up thousands of pounds of debt to Claire Barber PR, who helped to promote her charity work.
There were concerns that Katie would be unable to pay the bill. However, online fundraisers were able to raise just over £6,000 to cover Katie's debt to Claire Barber, the CEO of Claire Barber PR.
Now Alan Barnes has stepped in and said he will pay the full bill. Seems a tad late, but perhaps he'll give her some more to tie her over?
Last week it was reported that Alan, who is 4ft 6in and disabled, had offered only £10 towards the bill.
Then he told Mirror Online: "It's easy for people to say, 'he's got a lot of money, cough up' but you've got to look into all the alternatives.
"It might seem hard but if I start handing it out, other people might ask for money. It was given to me on the understanding that I use it for myself.
"A lot of people just want it to stay with me."
Now he appears to have changed his tune.
Some had suggested that the PR company responsible for publicising the campaign should waive the fee.
However, Claire Barber, the CEO of Claire Barber PR, said: "I'm a very hard-working single mum running a business, and I wish I could afford to write it off but I can't."
She racked up thousands of pounds of debt to Claire Barber PR, who helped to promote her charity work.
There were concerns that Katie would be unable to pay the bill. However, online fundraisers were able to raise just over £6,000 to cover Katie's debt to Claire Barber, the CEO of Claire Barber PR.
Now Alan Barnes has stepped in and said he will pay the full bill. Seems a tad late, but perhaps he'll give her some more to tie her over?
Last week it was reported that Alan, who is 4ft 6in and disabled, had offered only £10 towards the bill.
Then he told Mirror Online: "It's easy for people to say, 'he's got a lot of money, cough up' but you've got to look into all the alternatives.
"It might seem hard but if I start handing it out, other people might ask for money. It was given to me on the understanding that I use it for myself.
"A lot of people just want it to stay with me."
Now he appears to have changed his tune.
Some had suggested that the PR company responsible for publicising the campaign should waive the fee.
However, Claire Barber, the CEO of Claire Barber PR, said: "I'm a very hard-working single mum running a business, and I wish I could afford to write it off but I can't."
Interesting summary of an interview with Alan Barnes on this page (the news is that the court ruled in favour of Claire Barber PR):
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-new...
There is a discrepancy in that Barnes says he wrote a cheque for £2,100 but Claire Barber says it was for the full amount (which seems to be £6,000+). It is still irrelevant though - regardless if you think it was right for the PR company to sue it's right that the case continued - the cheque could have bounced or been cancelled and they would be back to square one.
The snippet of an email that was regarded as conclusive proof of a contract is interesting "Hello Claire, I formally appoint you as my official PR for Katie Cutler and Acts of Kindness at a day rate of £550.". It would be interesting to know how they found each other, and who suggested the aims of the PR exercise.
edit: Looks like the £2,100 was supposed to be £6,100 in the article and they fixed it.
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-new...
There is a discrepancy in that Barnes says he wrote a cheque for £2,100 but Claire Barber says it was for the full amount (which seems to be £6,000+). It is still irrelevant though - regardless if you think it was right for the PR company to sue it's right that the case continued - the cheque could have bounced or been cancelled and they would be back to square one.
The snippet of an email that was regarded as conclusive proof of a contract is interesting "Hello Claire, I formally appoint you as my official PR for Katie Cutler and Acts of Kindness at a day rate of £550.". It would be interesting to know how they found each other, and who suggested the aims of the PR exercise.
edit: Looks like the £2,100 was supposed to be £6,100 in the article and they fixed it.
Edited by Gareth79 on Wednesday 2nd November 17:21
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