Rotherham Council mass resignation.....
Discussion
jogon said:
Funny how none of this info came to light before they had the elections for the new South Yorkshire Police Commissioner, I imagine it might have been a different outcome last October.
Will be interesting to see how the paedo town votes in May.
Not sure about this not coming out before the new Commissioner was elected. It was known Shaun Wright was the Labour Councilor in charge of child services, and then became the Labour Police Commisioner, and refused to resign for some considerable time (whilst saying he knew nothing about it, despite being in charge of the services at the time, and doing eveything, including legal action, to try and make sure we did not find out what was happening). He was replaced by the next Labour Commissioner candidate.......Will be interesting to see how the paedo town votes in May.
The morons in Rotherham would vote in Jimmy Savile if he was the Labour candicate.
La Liga said:
V8 Fettler said:
The CPS and South Yorks plod should be all over this. Unfortunately, charges of misconduct/misfeasance/malfeasance in public office are very rarely used
The investigatory scope is well beyond a local police force. Especially one that's self-referred to the IPCC and NCA. 
carinaman said:
SYP? They had lots of time and officers to raid Sir Cliff's pad in Berks. though didn't they?
They also sat on their hands over Ian Watkins Lost Prophets paedophile front man.
Probably a good summary of how people think here. They also sat on their hands over Ian Watkins Lost Prophets paedophile front man.
1) Criticise for acting upon reports.
2) Criticise for not acting upon reports.
Hooli said:
Trax said:
The morons in Rotherham would vote in Jimmy Savile if he was the Labour candicate.
As someone working in Rotherham, I'll second this is true.La Liga said:
What has that got to do with investigating public officials for public office offences?
There's no way SYP should be investigating members of the LA around CSE. It needs greater independence and a national perspective like the Casey report this thread is about.
It has everything to do with the police/CPS doing what they are paid to do. No grooming = no abuse = no cover-up. Who, currently, is patrolling Rotherham's streets preventing grooming?There's no way SYP should be investigating members of the LA around CSE. It needs greater independence and a national perspective like the Casey report this thread is about.
Honesty and competence are more important than greater independence and national perspective. But if we going to have greater independence and national perspective then let's disband the insular little empires and have a national police force. Perhaps the Rotherham scandal would not have occurred if SYP had been dismantled 20 years ago.
FiF said:
As Derek says, resignation should not be the end of it, chase these people where the evidence leads and prosecute without fear or favour. Then do it all over again in other cities. If it's like this in a small one horse town like Rotherham, what's it like in London, Birmingham, and so on?
https://rotherhampolitics.wordpress.com/2015/02/04...
I think this has happened there because it's a one horse town.https://rotherhampolitics.wordpress.com/2015/02/04...
Pothole said:
FiF said:
As Derek says, resignation should not be the end of it, chase these people where the evidence leads and prosecute without fear or favour. Then do it all over again in other cities. If it's like this in a small one horse town like Rotherham, what's it like in London, Birmingham, and so on?
https://rotherhampolitics.wordpress.com/2015/02/04...
I think this has happened there because it's a one horse town.https://rotherhampolitics.wordpress.com/2015/02/04...
V8 Fettler said:
La Liga said:
What has that got to do with investigating public officials for public office offences?
There's no way SYP should be investigating members of the LA around CSE. It needs greater independence and a national perspective like the Casey report this thread is about.
It has everything to do with the police/CPS doing what they are paid to do. No grooming = no abuse = no cover-up. Who, currently, is patrolling Rotherham's streets preventing grooming?There's no way SYP should be investigating members of the LA around CSE. It needs greater independence and a national perspective like the Casey report this thread is about.
Honesty and competence are more important than greater independence and national perspective. But if we going to have greater independence and national perspective then let's disband the insular little empires and have a national police force. Perhaps the Rotherham scandal would not have occurred if SYP had been dismantled 20 years ago.
I'm talking about the public office offences that may have occurred within the LA over the past X years you raised. The scope of this is clearly very large, which you'll know if you have read the Casey report.
SYP are under investigation from the NCA and IPCC for their handling of Rotherham abuses cases.
Can you not see any conflict of interest of them investing their partners, the council, over the same subject matter they're being investigated over?
La Liga said:
Probably a good summary of how people think here.
1) Criticise for acting upon reports.
2) Criticise for not acting upon reports.
Yes, I suppose it's not the fault of the police for not sorting out the involvement of taxi drivers, something that reportedly the Home Office were aware of back in 2002. It's now 2015. They do say it's better late than never.1) Criticise for acting upon reports.
2) Criticise for not acting upon reports.
And at least Joanne Mjadzelics was cleared in court for trying to do the job the police should have done. Only three police forces inc. SYP failed to get Ian Watkins.
I'm just wondering how many child pimping cabbies they must have driven past en route to Cliff Richards pad in Berks. to look into some allegation from 30 years ago.
So they've done very little to help or save probably getting on for 2,000 kids over a 16 year period, but are only too keen to go off to Cliff's place to investigate an allegation from 30 years ago? And only too keen to assist the BBC to televise it.
Not a smoke screen at all.
So they've done very little to help or save probably getting on for 2,000 kids over a 16 year period, but are only too keen to go off to Cliff's place to investigate an allegation from 30 years ago? And only too keen to assist the BBC to televise it.
Not a smoke screen at all.
No of course itisn't.Not as if people have not been covering for friends or relatives either!
JS and the like were ripped apart for paedophile activities, quite right as they should have been, because of the race mainly involved in the gangs responsible for this sick bunch of kiddiefiddlers, it'll be interesting to see theoutcome.Might be legal in other counties-but not in f
king England you sick perverted barstards.
JS and the like were ripped apart for paedophile activities, quite right as they should have been, because of the race mainly involved in the gangs responsible for this sick bunch of kiddiefiddlers, it'll be interesting to see theoutcome.Might be legal in other counties-but not in f
king England you sick perverted barstards.
I hear thats quite a painless solution?
Joking aside, I really feel glad this has now taken off after it being reported on the news.What kind of "person" has the right to fk up one childs life, let alone whole groups of these slime covered turds.
One can only hope that all involved get jail sentences (assuming they'll stay on to face the music) and while inside they get similarly abused.
Joking aside, I really feel glad this has now taken off after it being reported on the news.What kind of "person" has the right to f
k up one childs life, let alone whole groups of these slime covered turds.One can only hope that all involved get jail sentences (assuming they'll stay on to face the music) and while inside they get similarly abused.
carinaman said:
I'm just wondering how many child pimping cabbies they must have driven past en route to Cliff Richards pad in Berks. to look into some allegation from 30 years ago.
So they've done very little to help or save probably getting on for 2,000 kids over a 16 year period, but are only too keen to go off to Cliff's place to investigate an allegation from 30 years ago? And only too keen to assist the BBC to televise it.
Not a smoke screen at all.
Probably not that many since Cliff was within the last 4 years (see below). Should they should have ignored the allegations against Cliff, is that what you're saying? What would you have done when people approached you and made historic allegations? Ignored it? Isn't that you're being critical of in the same sentence? Do you realise the contradictions? So they've done very little to help or save probably getting on for 2,000 kids over a 16 year period, but are only too keen to go off to Cliff's place to investigate an allegation from 30 years ago? And only too keen to assist the BBC to televise it.
Not a smoke screen at all.
"There have been may improvements in the last four years by both the Council and the Police. The Police are now well resourced for CSE and well trained, though prosecutions remain low in number." - the Jay report.
La Liga said:
V8 Fettler said:
La Liga said:
What has that got to do with investigating public officials for public office offences?
There's no way SYP should be investigating members of the LA around CSE. It needs greater independence and a national perspective like the Casey report this thread is about.
It has everything to do with the police/CPS doing what they are paid to do. No grooming = no abuse = no cover-up. Who, currently, is patrolling Rotherham's streets preventing grooming?There's no way SYP should be investigating members of the LA around CSE. It needs greater independence and a national perspective like the Casey report this thread is about.
Honesty and competence are more important than greater independence and national perspective. But if we going to have greater independence and national perspective then let's disband the insular little empires and have a national police force. Perhaps the Rotherham scandal would not have occurred if SYP had been dismantled 20 years ago.
I'm talking about the public office offences that may have occurred within the LA over the past X years you raised. The scope of this is clearly very large, which you'll know if you have read the Casey report.
SYP are under investigation from the NCA and IPCC for their handling of Rotherham abuses cases.
Can you not see any conflict of interest of them investing their partners, the council, over the same subject matter they're being investigated over?
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