Can we talk about Sweden for a bit?

[irocfan]

Otispunkmeyer said:

Pesty said:

Finlandia said:

Things are happening on Gotland. A wheelchair bound woman was gang raped last weekend, six newly arrived guys were arrested, and later released on iffy grounds, "the stories of the events as told by the woman and the men do not match" as the prosecutor said.

This has sparked civil unrest all over the island, according to helagotland.se there have been large protests, a bomb threat against the police station, and an attempted break in at the prosecutor among other things.

Link

The prosecutor seems surprised that her version of events doesn't match their version of events? Thats a given surely otherwise its tantamount to them admitting doing what they are accused of.

ahhhh but they're following the new best practice that a woman's word is not worth as much as a man's....

[jshell]

Looket said:

jshell said:

Looket said:

I genuinely hope it kicks off big time.

Great. Let's feed the right wing extremists, that'll work. Won't it? You're not helping, you do know that? The over-reaction is what will cause even more trouble and instability...

Because pussy-footing around the subject is helping, is it? No.

There has to be confrontation and instability. And frankly, a lot of people have to go away one way or another - don't really care how at this point. The country has to burn before it can be rebuilt and whether or not that is helping is neither here nor there, it's simply what it is. The time for peaceful resolution is long gone.

You're either very young and impressionable, or just dumb as a box of frogs. The events of last century would caution against the ramblings that you're pouring forth.

Proper mental.

[Finlandia]

jshell said:

Looket said:

jshell said:

Looket said:

I genuinely hope it kicks off big time.

Great. Let's feed the right wing extremists, that'll work. Won't it? You're not helping, you do know that? The over-reaction is what will cause even more trouble and instability...

Because pussy-footing around the subject is helping, is it? No.

There has to be confrontation and instability. And frankly, a lot of people have to go away one way or another - don't really care how at this point. The country has to burn before it can be rebuilt and whether or not that is helping is neither here nor there, it's simply what it is. The time for peaceful resolution is long gone.

You're either very young and impressionable, or just dumb as a box of frogs. The events of last century would caution against the ramblings that you're pouring forth.

Proper mental.

Young or dumb, many around the country feel just like the above, young and old, from different backgrounds. The reason so many feel like this, comes from the daily bombings, shootings, torching of cars, violence and gang rapes, the country has changed dramatically in the last few years, people are fed up. The leaders have made it clear that everything is fine, and nothing needs to change.

It's only a matter of time until we see some real civil unrest, or a Swedish Breivik. Then who do we blame?

[Oceanic]

Looket said:

Sorry petal, I don't really give a fk about 'appripriate' at this point.

I genuinely hope it kicks off big time. People need to wake up.

I would love to see some actual hard stats on the percentages of "new arrivals" who are convicted of crimes vs the percentages of native Swedes who conduct similar crimes. From what I can tell, most of the st that happens here is conducted by Swedish, but as soon as there is a whiff of a crime that involves sex the rumour mill kicks in and then people of non-swedish origin automatically get the blame whether they were or not anything to do with it!

We have had several instances of sexual / violent crimes being raised here by females for political or scaremongering purposes! All of this is designed to whip up the far right attitudes and play into the fears of people too retarded to educate themselves on the real world realities.

So your hope that it "kicks off big time" is not only a bit childish, but a bit misguided.

Edited by Oceanic on Friday 7th October 18:11

[Randy Winkman]

Threads that involve both rape and muslims do bring out a bit of a dichotomy on PH.

[El Guapo]

Oceanic said:

I would love to see some actual hard stats on the percentages of "new arrivals" who are convicted of crimes vs the percentages of native Swedes who conduct similar crimes. From what I can tell, most of the st that happens here is conducted by Swedish, but as soon as there is a whiff of a crime that involves sex the rumour mill kicks in and then people of non-swedish original automatically get the blame whether they were or not anything to do with it!

We have had several instances of sexual / violent crimes being raised here by females for political or scaremongering purposes! All of this is designed to whip up the far right attitudes and play into the fears of people too retarded to educate themselves on the real world realities.

No wonder Sweden is in such a state. Scaremongering FFS.

[Mr Snrub]

El Guapo said:

Oceanic said:

I would love to see some actual hard stats on the percentages of "new arrivals" who are convicted of crimes vs the percentages of native Swedes who conduct similar crimes. From what I can tell, most of the st that happens here is conducted by Swedish, but as soon as there is a whiff of a crime that involves sex the rumour mill kicks in and then people of non-swedish original automatically get the blame whether they were or not anything to do with it!

We have had several instances of sexual / violent crimes being raised here by females for political or scaremongering purposes! All of this is designed to whip up the far right attitudes and play into the fears of people too retarded to educate themselves on the real world realities.

No wonder Sweden is in such a state. Scaremongering FFS.

Or maybe people know there are already home grown rapists and offenders so don't want to import any more?

[Finlandia]

Oceanic said:

Looket said:

Sorry petal, I don't really give a fk about 'appripriate' at this point.

I genuinely hope it kicks off big time. People need to wake up.

I would love to see some actual hard stats on the percentages of "new arrivals" who are convicted of crimes vs the percentages of native Swedes who conduct similar crimes. From what I can tell, most of the st that happens here is conducted by Swedish, but as soon as there is a whiff of a crime that involves sex the rumour mill kicks in and then people of non-swedish original automatically get the blame whether they were or not anything to do with it!

We have had several instances of sexual / violent crimes being raised here by females for political or scaremongering purposes! All of this is designed to whip up the far right attitudes and play into the fears of people too retarded to educate themselves on the real world realities.

So your hope that it "kicks off big time" is not only a bit childish, but a bit misguided.

There are no such stats, they were outlawed years ago. There have been many high profile violent crimes lately, ranging from bombings to rape, while the majority of the offenders hold a Swedish passport, they are by no means Swedish by behaviour.

The problems we are seeing now have been in the making for a few decades, a totally failed immigration policy is the biggest issue, along with failing schools, failing justice system and police, not enough housing.

[Pesty]

jshell said:

Looket said:

jshell said:

Looket said:

I genuinely hope it kicks off big time.

Great. Let's feed the right wing extremists, that'll work. Won't it? You're not helping, you do know that? The over-reaction is what will cause even more trouble and instability...

Because pussy-footing around the subject is helping, is it? No.

There has to be confrontation and instability. And frankly, a lot of people have to go away one way or another - don't really care how at this point. The country has to burn before it can be rebuilt and whether or not that is helping is neither here nor there, it's simply what it is. The time for peaceful resolution is long gone.

You're either very young and impressionable, or just dumb as a box of frogs. The events of last century would caution against the ramblings that you're pouring forth.

Proper mental.

Yes looket your women are worthless accept they will be raped. What's your problem.

[Looket]

jshell said:

Looket said:

jshell said:

Looket said:

I genuinely hope it kicks off big time.

Great. Let's feed the right wing extremists, that'll work. Won't it? You're not helping, you do know that? The over-reaction is what will cause even more trouble and instability...

Because pussy-footing around the subject is helping, is it? No.

There has to be confrontation and instability. And frankly, a lot of people have to go away one way or another - don't really care how at this point. The country has to burn before it can be rebuilt and whether or not that is helping is neither here nor there, it's simply what it is. The time for peaceful resolution is long gone.

You're either very young and impressionable, or just dumb as a box of frogs. The events of last century would caution against the ramblings that you're pouring forth.

Proper mental.

Mental, perhaps, but true.

Your bedwetting won't change a thing.

Oceanic said:

I would love to see some actual hard stats on the percentages of "new arrivals" who are convicted of crimes vs the percentages of native Swedes who conduct similar crimes. From what I can tell, most of the st that happens here is conducted by Swedish, but as soon as there is a whiff of a crime that involves sex the rumour mill kicks in and then people of non-swedish origin automatically get the blame whether they were or not anything to do with it!

We have had several instances of sexual / violent crimes being raised here by females for political or scaremongering purposes! All of this is designed to whip up the far right attitudes and play into the fears of people too retarded to educate themselves on the real world realities.

So your hope that it "kicks off big time" is not only a bit childish, but a bit misguided.

How funny, you accuse me of being 'too retarded' to educate myself on real world realities, yet you clearly haven't bothered to even look into reality yourself.

As you well know there are no such recent stats available. That wouldn't be terribly PC. Luckily we do have an old 2005 paper (investigating 1997-2001 figures) by BRÅ that concluded that immigrants are 410% more likely to rape or attempt rape than native Swedes.

Educate yourself here. Pay special attention to pages 63 and 67.

In BRÅ 1996:2 immigrants committed 38% of all rapes, children of immigrants 13% of all rapes, and illegals 10% of all rapes. Swedes committed 39% of all rapes. I'll let you do the math and work out the overrepresentation.

In 2008 Svenskarnas Parti investigated all rape cases in court. 60.6% of all convicted rapists were immigrants.

A nice overview available here.

HTH.

[Hugh Jarse]

Looket said:

Facts (no longer reported in Sweden due to stalinist manipulation of statistics)

Looking forward to the answer from the deluded bedwetters.
My local paper didnt like the comments so they took away the comments section.
Dont you burst our bubble truthers!
Im paying 62% income tax for this fiasco of importing people who group rape women in wheelchairs.
Oh but thats always happened, apparently, according to revisionists.

[BrabusMog]

Too many limp wristed apologists have gotten into positions of power and will flatly refuse to acknowledge that there is a problem, let alone actually do something about it. I'd not believe it had I not spent the past year watching it unfold in front of my eyes.

[s2art]

BrabusMog said:

Too many limp wristed apologists have gotten into positions of power and will flatly refuse to acknowledge that there is a problem, let alone actually do something about it. I'd not believe it had I not spent the past year watching it unfold in front of my eyes.

Why are swedes still voting for the useless tw@s?

[Finlandia]

s2art said:

BrabusMog said:

Too many limp wristed apologists have gotten into positions of power and will flatly refuse to acknowledge that there is a problem, let alone actually do something about it. I'd not believe it had I not spent the past year watching it unfold in front of my eyes.

Why are swedes still voting for the useless tw@s?

Because you're a racist if you don't approve of the situation.

[irocfan]

s2art said:

BrabusMog said:

Too many limp wristed apologists have gotten into positions of power and will flatly refuse to acknowledge that there is a problem, let alone actually do something about it. I'd not believe it had I not spent the past year watching it unfold in front of my eyes.

Why are swedes still voting for the useless tw@s?

I suspect as there is no-one else to vote for - they've all got the same outlook?

[Finlandia]

More gang violence, police in Malmö are pleading to parents to keep their children indoors after two shootings today in front of a kindergarten.

[FN2TypeR]

irocfan said:

s2art said:

BrabusMog said:

Too many limp wristed apologists have gotten into positions of power and will flatly refuse to acknowledge that there is a problem, let alone actually do something about it. I'd not believe it had I not spent the past year watching it unfold in front of my eyes.

Why are swedes still voting for the useless tw@s?

I suspect as there is no-one else to vote for - they've all got the same outlook?

Once things are bad enough that'll change rapidly and the parties people starting turning to for their answers won't be pleasant.

Or the locals can just roll over and accept the fact that they now live in a country where new incomers are seemingly beyond the reach of the law, of course.

[Funkycoldribena]

FN2TypeR said:

Or the locals can just roll over and accept the fact that they now live in a country where new incomers are seemingly beyond the reach of the law, of course.

It certainly seems that way already.

[Finlandia]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3831991/Wh...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/wheelchair...

[myvision]

Finlandia said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3831991/Wh...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/wheelchair...

Send them all back from that centre unless they handover the six guilty.