Can we talk about Sweden for a bit?
Discussion
DM but this can't all be untrue, can it?.... https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymai...
Harrison Bergeron said:
That thread is grim. But, hey, celebrate the diversity.Harrison Bergeron said:
Jeeeezus ! That’s just angering and depressing.I’m sure the usual suspects will be along any minute to state that those who don’t want their 9yr old daughter raping is a ”far-right extremist”
Harrison Bergeron said:
That is absolutely horrifying. Very little response from the usual posters on NP&E, keeping very quiet indeed.Pastor Of Muppets said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
That is absolutely horrifying. Very little response from the usual posters on NP&E, keeping very quiet indeed.Anyway, "Usual posters"? Who are they?
Randy Winkman said:
Pastor Of Muppets said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
That is absolutely horrifying. Very little response from the usual posters on NP&E, keeping very quiet indeed.Anyway, "Usual posters"? Who are they?
b
hstewie Electro1980
Are the first three that spring to mind.
What disappoints, every time, is the two-faced ‘kindness’ that recognises the obligation to take in refugees, but cares little enough about them to filter out economic and criminal migrants, let alone to help with their integration into western society.
Liberal to the point of irresponsibility. Immigrants and residents have a right to law and safety.
Liberal to the point of irresponsibility. Immigrants and residents have a right to law and safety.
Digga said:
Liberal to the point of irresponsibility. Immigrants and residents have a right to law and safety.
Get with the program Comrade. The rule of law, safety of the citizenry and the judicial system are all “far-right positions”.Off to the re-education camps with you to learn some CRT and to beat that white privilege out of you.
105.4 said:
Digga said:
Liberal to the point of irresponsibility. Immigrants and residents have a right to law and safety.
Get with the program Comrade. The rule of law, safety of the citizenry and the judicial system are all “far-right positions”.Off to the re-education camps with you to learn some CRT and to beat that white privilege out of you.
And yet I don't like the idea of a party set up in the '80s by neo-nazis. However photogenic they might be now.
monthou said:
105.4 said:
Digga said:
Liberal to the point of irresponsibility. Immigrants and residents have a right to law and safety.
Get with the program Comrade. The rule of law, safety of the citizenry and the judicial system are all “far-right positions”.Off to the re-education camps with you to learn some CRT and to beat that white privilege out of you.
Anyway, we’re getting slightly off topic here.
My apologies.
monthou said:
And yet I don't like the idea of a party set up in the '80s by neo-nazis. However photogenic they might be now.
People can become less "extreme" in their views. Or they can be handily relabelled by the media so they're now the good guys. In any case, the statistics on crime points to where the problems are and one might assume that something should be done. No one has wanted to do anything about it, a new group of people do and here we are. The sad thing is that there'll be those who value what they've received and have worked to assimilate and integrate.105.4 said:
Randy Winkman said:
Pastor Of Muppets said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
That is absolutely horrifying. Very little response from the usual posters on NP&E, keeping very quiet indeed.Anyway, "Usual posters"? Who are they?
b
hstewie Electro1980
Are the first three that spring to mind.
As for the tweet. Let's see a right wing tweeter, check his other tweets, tweets about people with dark skin.
It seems it now a part of popular myth that Sweden has massive rise in rape. The problem is if you look at the same figures for the UK the rise in Sweden is small.
As for the tweet lots of use of percentages but using statistics in this way can be used to prove a point particularly if you do not offer any balance so as to score political points.
If you go back to the original academic study, which you will find on line. It is clear those from the ME and Africa are about 2.4 time likely to be convicted as those born in Sweden. However, it also shows they are significantly less well off and have more drug and personality problems.
So is the issue the ethnicity or the fact most immigrants will initially be at the lower end of society. Comparing rates against a similar Swedish population group would be useful but as the study comments data is in short supply.
After the statistics the tweet also focuses on individual cases of stranger rape. This is very misleading. Stranger rape is quite rare. Most rape happens inside where the victim knows the accused.
The tweet also ignores the biggest statistic. The vast majority of men from the ME and Africa DO NOT commit rape.
Interesting post. Purely speculation, but I also wondrof there is something in the demographic of immigration, compared to the general population.
I would hazard a guess that most violent rapists are youngish men. And I suspect that a disproportionate number of migrants fit that demographic too.
However, I di think there are issues around culture and integration, and what is meant by multi cultural society
I would hazard a guess that most violent rapists are youngish men. And I suspect that a disproportionate number of migrants fit that demographic too.
However, I di think there are issues around culture and integration, and what is meant by multi cultural society
Mrr T said:
105.4 said:
Randy Winkman said:
Pastor Of Muppets said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
That is absolutely horrifying. Very little response from the usual posters on NP&E, keeping very quiet indeed.Anyway, "Usual posters"? Who are they?
b
hstewie Electro1980
Are the first three that spring to mind.
As for the tweet. Let's see a right wing tweeter, check his other tweets, tweets about people with dark skin.
It seems it now a part of popular myth that Sweden has massive rise in rape. The problem is if you look at the same figures for the UK the rise in Sweden is small.
As for the tweet lots of use of percentages but using statistics in this way can be used to prove a point particularly if you do not offer any balance so as to score political points.
If you go back to the original academic study, which you will find on line. It is clear those from the ME and Africa are about 2.4 time likely to be convicted as those born in Sweden. However, it also shows they are significantly less well off and have more drug and personality problems.
So is the issue the ethnicity or the fact most immigrants will initially be at the lower end of society. Comparing rates against a similar Swedish population group would be useful but as the study comments data is in short supply.
After the statistics the tweet also focuses on individual cases of stranger rape. This is very misleading. Stranger rape is quite rare. Most rape happens inside where the victim knows the accused.
The tweet also ignores the biggest statistic. The vast majority of men from the ME and Africa DO NOT commit rape.
Edited by Type R Tom on Monday 19th September 13:07
Interesting from the Spectator
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-sweden-s-a...
Since the last election year, 2018, there have been almost 500 bombings (including hand grenades)
A 16 year old Armenian shot and kilked someone in a Gym.., fled to Armenia... and was granted sweedish citizenship whilst in hiding..
...at least 60 neighbourhoods where the Police say they have no control..
...some 240,000 chidren living under "honor related family norms" FGM??
Socialism is good for immigration, but not much else (other then calling everyone else far-right)
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-sweden-s-a...
Since the last election year, 2018, there have been almost 500 bombings (including hand grenades)
A 16 year old Armenian shot and kilked someone in a Gym.., fled to Armenia... and was granted sweedish citizenship whilst in hiding..
...at least 60 neighbourhoods where the Police say they have no control..
...some 240,000 chidren living under "honor related family norms" FGM??
Socialism is good for immigration, but not much else (other then calling everyone else far-right)
J210 said:
in the last 17 days there have been 8 reported bombings in Stockholm alone. Doesn't appear to be much about this in the news.
what is going on in Sweden ?
Can you tell us more - perhaps a link? I'm not doubting you by the way; just that you say it's been reported but not you've not seen much in the news. Cheers. what is going on in Sweden ?
Randy Winkman said:
Can you tell us more - perhaps a link? I'm not doubting you by the way; just that you say it's been reported but not you've not seen much in the news. Cheers.
I saw it from a Swedish journalist. Will need to try and find it again. but this is some of the new on a few of the bombingshttps://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/2-powerful-explosi...
https://en.mehrnews.com/news/195447/Explosion-repo...
https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/powerful-explosio...
Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff