Can we talk about Sweden for a bit?
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One thing that puzzles me, and I apologise in advance for raising a trivial comment. So at the incident there presumably was chaos, pupils milling about outside in great distress. So wtf was the ambulance driver thinking on approach to the scene by ending up ramming the school wall, unless he was trying to run over the suspect or create a barrier or something quite bizarre.
FiF said:
One thing that puzzles me, and I apologise in advance for raising a trivial comment. So at the incident there presumably was chaos, pupils milling about outside in great distress. So wtf was the ambulance driver thinking on approach to the scene by ending up ramming the school wall, unless he was trying to run over the suspect or create a barrier or something quite bizarre.
I've hear every explanation from that the suspect shot at the driver to that it was a very emotional moment and you cannot blame the driver for a slight mishap.Probably more likely that the ambulance hadn't been serviced and the brakes failed.
Article here from the New Yorker...interesting, if a little vague.
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/an-attack-...
Also posted in the sword attack thread but thought it was relevant to this thread (which i'm silently following).
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/an-attack-...
Also posted in the sword attack thread but thought it was relevant to this thread (which i'm silently following).
article said:
Mr. Cantwell explains that Abraham Ukbagabir is not a terrorist, reiterating the old defence of political killers, that “one man’s political assassin is another’s freedom fighter”
Ho-lee sheeeet.This is a minority opinion in Sweden? Sweden isn't that fuicked?
Killing a mother and son.
Edited by Halb on Thursday 29th October 10:00
skyrover said:
The Swedish leaders need a good slap in the face.
How can they be so wilfully ignorant?
Terrifying that a nation which prides itself on detail and design can be so blind.... The phrase "Stockholm Syndrome" is making more sense every day
It's easy to see other people's problems from the outside. Our own leaders also need a slap. I know it's a few years ago now but look at these two stories.How can they be so wilfully ignorant?
Terrifying that a nation which prides itself on detail and design can be so blind.... The phrase "Stockholm Syndrome" is making more sense every day
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-12664346
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cumbria-1311924...
Self declared Islamic fundamentalist disrupts a remembrance day parade chanting his vile rubbish at former and current soldiers and their families, then burns poppies in front of them. Gets a £50 fine.
Former soldier who takes offence at this burns a copy of the Quran on a street in Carlisle and gets 70 days in prison.
You can look at other mitigating and aggravating factors all you like, but the inescapable truth of that is that burning the quuran is considered a lot more serious than burning poppies at a remembrance parade. By our legal system.
Even the explanation of utter cowardice does not quite cut it here. No-one can seriously believe that treating militant Islamists with kid gloves and acting harshly towards uppity infidels is going to dissuade dedicated jihadists from their vision of a global caliphate.
It seems that they enjoy the debasing of western culture in favour of something more aggressive and certain of itself and extremist Islam offers that.
RobGT81 said:
Might as well reference a Socialist Alliance news article for all the balance Breitbart resents. Trollhattan. Murder by a crazed lunatic. Ikea killings. Murder by crazed lunatic.
Those apologists for both sides are no better than each other.
Colonial said:
Might as well reference a Socialist Alliance news article for all the balance Breitbart resents.
Trollhattan. Murder by a crazed lunatic. Ikea killings. Murder by crazed lunatic.
Those apologists for both sides are no better than each other.
yes and no - the school killings were by most definitions terrorism, the IKEA killings were the same and for some total fTrollhattan. Murder by a crazed lunatic. Ikea killings. Murder by crazed lunatic.
Those apologists for both sides are no better than each other.
kwit to try and call the perpetrator a 'hero' is sickening. And yes Breitbart isn't balanced - but it brings balance when viewed alongside the Gruan and Beeb takes on the world
irocfan said:
yes and no - the school killings were by most definitions terrorism, the IKEA killings were the same and for some total fkwit to try and call the perpetrator a 'hero' is sickening.
And yes Breitbart isn't balanced - but it brings balance when viewed alongside the Gruan and Beeb takes on the world
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/kolumnister/oisincantwell/article21648781.ab kwit to try and call the perpetrator a 'hero' is sickening. And yes Breitbart isn't balanced - but it brings balance when viewed alongside the Gruan and Beeb takes on the world
Link to article in aftonbladet. I don't agree with article at all, to me both are mindless terrorist acts, but breitbart article representation is downright idiotic. As is the title. What 'establishment'? It's one journalist and his opinion. I did use google translate, but can't see word 'hero' anywhere in the article.
As for breitbart balancing bbc; LOL.
jjlynn27 said:
irocfan said:
yes and no - the school killings were by most definitions terrorism, the IKEA killings were the same and for some total fkwit to try and call the perpetrator a 'hero' is sickening.
And yes Breitbart isn't balanced - but it brings balance when viewed alongside the Gruan and Beeb takes on the world
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/kolumnister/oisincantwell/article21648781.ab kwit to try and call the perpetrator a 'hero' is sickening. And yes Breitbart isn't balanced - but it brings balance when viewed alongside the Gruan and Beeb takes on the world
Link to article in aftonbladet. I don't agree with article at all, to me both are mindless terrorist acts, but breitbart article representation is downright idiotic. As is the title. What 'establishment'? It's one journalist and his opinion. I did use google translate, but can't see word 'hero' anywhere in the article.
As for breitbart balancing bbc; LOL.
The BBC are reporting that Sweden is in meltdown, they can't cope with the volume of migrants and are considering options; the minister responsible is reported to be in tears? No idea what that means but it sounds like uncommon sense might be making a break for freedom.
Reuters: swedish asylum rules tightened.
Reuters: swedish asylum rules tightened.
Edited by hidetheelephants on Tuesday 24th November 23:02
hidetheelephants said:
The BBC are reporting that Sweden is in meltdown, they can't cope with the volume of migrants and are considering options; the minister responsible is reported to be in tears? No idea what that means but it sounds like uncommon sense might be making a break for freedom.
Reuters: swedish asylum rules tightened.
I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad. Anyone with half a brain could have predicted this outcome and yet the imbeciles in power couldn't foresee this??? Reuters: swedish asylum rules tightened.
Edited by hidetheelephants on Tuesday 24th November 23:02
hidetheelephants said:
The BBC are reporting that Sweden is in meltdown, they can't cope with the volume of migrants and are considering options; the minister responsible is reported to be in tears? No idea what that means but it sounds like uncommon sense might be making a break for freedom.
Reuters: swedish asylum rules tightened.
From the Migrant Crisis thread: https://vid.me/mb7cReuters: swedish asylum rules tightened.
Edited by hidetheelephants on Tuesday 24th November 23:02
She (Vice-PM of the Green Party) said that there have been serious discussions in her party lately, regarding their 'view of reality', and that she has grown convinced over the past couple of weeks that the best way to help her local councillors is 'to do something, after all'. Cue waterworks.
Edited by Looket on Wednesday 25th November 00:59
Looket said:
hidetheelephants said:
The BBC are reporting that Sweden is in meltdown, they can't cope with the volume of migrants and are considering options; the minister responsible is reported to be in tears? No idea what that means but it sounds like uncommon sense might be making a break for freedom.
Reuters: swedish asylum rules tightened.
From the Migrant Crisis thread: https://vid.me/mb7cReuters: swedish asylum rules tightened.
Edited by hidetheelephants on Tuesday 24th November 23:02
She (Vice-PM of the Green Party) said that there have been serious discussions in her party lately, regarding their 'view of reality', and that she has grown convinced over the past couple of weeks that the best way to help her local councillors is 'to do something, after all'. Cue waterworks.
Edited by Looket on Wednesday 25th November 00:59
BlackLabel said:
Bursting into tears because the country needs to introduce tighter border controls. And this is the Deputy Prime Minister? Sweden has gone way beyond it's duty in helping Syrians fleeing war (taking in 200k in a year when you are a population of around 9 million is rather generous) - what more do these Swedish politicians want the country to do?
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