Can we talk about Sweden for a bit?

Can we talk about Sweden for a bit?

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chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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Gandahar said:
Taking my wife over there for the weekend. Best room at the Raddisson and Frantzen for a meal.

What's not to like, as PH say.

biggrin

You guys sound like you are chewing on lemons when talking about Sweden, it's a great place.

Cheers.



Edited by Gandahar on Thursday 11th February 22:16
I think that you are a complete hypocritical idiot, who thinks he is smarter than he actually is. You type posts not to give your true thought, but merely for effect.

A case in point is your mindless posts on the climate change threads, pretending that you're a sensitive new-age guy by typing complete crap (and adding absolutey nothing to the debate), it's all our fault etc., yet, over on General Gassing, you have a post that revels in your old diesel spewing out particulates, and how much you enjoy the smoke emanating from your dirty old exhausts!

I am sure I am not the only one who can see through your crap.


Edited by Ollie_M on Friday 12th February 09:34

Esseesse

8,969 posts

208 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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AJS- said:
It seems like more of a sub-conscious "conspiracy" brought about by a sort of cultural collapse across the west, but especially in Europe. As a culture or civilisation we seem to have made the ultimate error somewhere and are unable or unwilling to perpetuate ourselves. We have negligible birth rates, huge youth unemployment, pension and welfare liabilities that we really can't hope to cover, and a society that is aging rapidly. We're culturally in Shakespeare's 6th age of man "the lean and slippered pantaloon, With spectacles on nose and pouch on side, His youthful hose, well saved, a world too wide, For his shrunk shank, and his big manly voice,"
IIRC you read Fate of Empires? What we see is quite in line with what is written in there.

IMO our broad error is the decline in Christianity (and no I'm not really religious, although I recognise where our values come from). If there wasn't abortion on demand in the west I think we would have quite reasonable birth rates.

Bring on the clowns

1,339 posts

184 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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He offered another mindless post yesterday on the thread about the CPS - totally off topic and offering nothing: to whit:

"I get my pork scratchings out and love reading the right wing thoughts of PH peeps on the lefty public squanderings.

As if business was any better ..."

Utter nonsense. An obvious cretin.

And here, again, conflating dislike of wrong behaviour and a govts. incompetence in allowing liars and miscreants in unchecked, mingling with the genuinely needy, compounded by their lack of will to tackle many incidents fully, with racism. A prat.

baldy1926

2,136 posts

200 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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According to the ever reliable dailymail the 'youth' who murdered the youth worker is over 18. I would say over 21 actually.

Sam All

3,101 posts

101 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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AJS- said:
As a heartless right winger I would be happy to treat the current situation as an invasion and repel it very robustly with all the force necessary to show that we will not accept illegal jumping of our borders. In the longer term though Europe needs to be self-sustaining and it needs to be willing to defend itself.
The trend does not favour your wishes.

Edited by Sam All on Friday 12th February 15:41

Oceanic

731 posts

101 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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baldy1926 said:
According to the ever reliable dailymail the 'youth' who murdered the youth worker is over 18. I would say over 21 actually.
Yes http://www.thelocal.se/20160212/15-year-old-who-ki...

QuantumTokoloshi

4,162 posts

217 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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The Finnish weather is not inviting to refugees it seems.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/f...

Finlandia

7,803 posts

231 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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Another murder on a refugee centre.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article22260063....

Google translate:
Several people started brawling in an asylum accommodation in Ljusne, outside Söderhamn. One person has died and three people have been injured.

The area has been evacuated and it seems like the police are getting ready to storm the accommodation.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Esseesse said:
iMO our broad error is the decline in Christianity (and no I'm not really religious, although I recognise where our values come from). If there wasn't abortion on demand in the west I think we would have quite reasonable birth rates.
For me, I think what helps is the problem is the cult of greed that was once the province of the aristocracy/establishment but now it's all persuasive, in all classes; mixed in with the shareholder/consumption/want/lack of accountability world Britain/West Europe now live in.

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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Halb said:
Esseesse said:
iMO our broad error is the decline in Christianity (and no I'm not really religious, although I recognise where our values come from). If there wasn't abortion on demand in the west I think we would have quite reasonable birth rates.
For me, I think what helps is the problem is the cult of greed that was once the province of the aristocracy/establishment but now it's all persuasive, in all classes; mixed in with the shareholder/consumption/want/lack of accountability world Britain/West Europe now live in.
Although you could quite possibly argue that it's the cult of altruism that has resulted in the impossible situation that Europe now finds itself in.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Sunday 14th February 2016
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davepoth said:
Halb said:
Esseesse said:
iMO our broad error is the decline in Christianity (and no I'm not really religious, although I recognise where our values come from). If there wasn't abortion on demand in the west I think we would have quite reasonable birth rates.
For me, I think what helps is the problem is the cult of greed that was once the province of the aristocracy/establishment but now it's all persuasive, in all classes; mixed in with the shareholder/consumption/want/lack of accountability world Britain/West Europe now live in.
Although you could quite possibly argue that it's the cult of altruism that has resulted in the impossible situation that Europe now finds itself in.
Yip, I can see that too...people are a funny lot. biggrin

myvision

1,942 posts

136 months

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Monday 15th February 2016
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All those doctors there will sort them out.

Bring on the clowns

1,339 posts

184 months

Monday 15th February 2016
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myvision said:
Mass brawls, knife fights, gangs, stabbings, 15 injured etc., etc and one in custody. That'll teach 'em. FFS.

Sam All

3,101 posts

101 months

Monday 15th February 2016
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Bring on the clowns said:
myvision said:
Mass brawls, knife fights, gangs, stabbings, 15 injured etc., etc and one in custody. That'll teach 'em. FFS.
Must feel like home.

Bring on the clowns

1,339 posts

184 months

Monday 15th February 2016
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Minus the sand...

Du1point8

21,606 posts

192 months

Tuesday 16th February 2016
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Bring on the clowns said:
myvision said:
Mass brawls, knife fights, gangs, stabbings, 15 injured etc., etc and one in custody. That'll teach 'em. FFS.
Love the bit that its Afghans that are escaping the atrocities of war, yet when across in whatever country they are in, making or receiving money, they happily go on holiday in Afghanistan several times a year.

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Tuesday 16th February 2016
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Du1point8 said:
Love the bit that its Afghans that are escaping the atrocities of war, yet when across in whatever country they are in, making or receiving money, they happily go on holiday in Afghanistan several times a year.
I think the trick is to bring the atrocities with you, one way or another. That way Afghanistan is a bit nicer when you go back.

Bring on the clowns

1,339 posts

184 months

Tuesday 16th February 2016
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Du1point8 said:
Bring on the clowns said:
myvision said:
Mass brawls, knife fights, gangs, stabbings, 15 injured etc., etc and one in custody. That'll teach 'em. FFS.
Love the bit that its Afghans that are escaping the atrocities of war, yet when across in whatever country they are in, making or receiving money, they happily go on holiday in Afghanistan several times a year.
Heroin doesn't traffic itself you know!

Beati Dogu

8,886 posts

139 months

Tuesday 16th February 2016
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Yet again proving that you can take the idiot out the middle east, but you can't take the middle east out of the idiot.