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smn159 said:
Maybe Trump's success will encourage other celebrities to run for high office. Might even help the special relationship if we elected someone more on his wavelength - how about Katie Hopkins for PM?
I must admit when the US Primaries were shaping up last year I half expected Jerry Springer to show up.
TheExcession said:
smn159 said:
Maybe Trump's success will encourage other celebrities to run for high office. Might even help the special relationship if we elected someone more on his wavelength - how about Katie Hopkins for PM?
I must admit when the US Primaries were shaping up last year I half expected Jerry Springer to show up.There's a rumor that Kasich might be tapped for VP nom. Can't see it myself as he's repeatedly said he's not interested but who knows. Newt Gingrich's name also being touted. Whaaaaaat? Anything's possible this year but I would think a ticket with two loudmouthed old white men at the top would be a struggle. The one he would have liked is probably Nicky Haley but that ship has sailed unless they're both prepared to walk back a lot of nastiness. That goes for most GOP establishment figures though. Perhaps he'll pick his shoplifting surrogate Katrina Pierson or his son Eric? 
unrepentant said:
Ted's in, the first of the crazies to declare for the GOP. If the thought of a Cruz presidency makes you shudder (and it should) think on this. Donald Trump has formed an exploratory committee! The gates of the asylums will swing open shortly and free the Rick's Santorum and Perry for another go and after that all sorts of whackos will throw their hats in. Remember Herman "999" Cain? He's thinking about it! Perennial loser Ron Paul? His son's going to run! Had enough Bush's? There's another one about to declare! Roll up, roll up for the craziest show since the last time this bunch of no hopers tried to find a credible candidate. That time they ended up with Mitt Romney! 
http://news.yahoo.com/cruz-launches-campaign-world...
From page 1. You have to hand it to unrepentant, he pretty much called it from the outset. What a humiliating festival of retardation the rnc managed to put on for our amusement and horror. Now has Trump got the chops to pick condi rice for vp and win? God help the world.http://news.yahoo.com/cruz-launches-campaign-world...
Edited by unrepentant on Monday 23 March 13:53
One thing that I am not surprised by, but cannot fathom, is that so many Brexit-supporters want Trump to win. If Trump wins and we leave the EU, we will be royally f
ked.
Trump would make a lot of noise about crushing ISIL, but would otherwise abandon the Middle East and walk away from the Iran nuiclear deal. Saudi Rabia woudl be weakened and Iran, with Russia's help would beome the major power in the region. Meanwhile, Trump's anti-Muslim rhetoric would increase ISIL recruits and increase flows of refugees to Europe.
He says he would make friends with Putin and that Nato members need to pay fro their own defence. Nato would diminish in importance. Our influence in Nato would diminish as the French and Germans moved quickly towards their European Army. Putin would be delighted and the Baltic states would live in fear.
Trump would cause a trade war with China and has expressed his lack of support for US security guarantees to Japan and South Korea. The Asian economies would deteriorate, damaging world trade.
Trump wouldn't give a toss about negotiating a UK-US trade deal.
ked.Trump would make a lot of noise about crushing ISIL, but would otherwise abandon the Middle East and walk away from the Iran nuiclear deal. Saudi Rabia woudl be weakened and Iran, with Russia's help would beome the major power in the region. Meanwhile, Trump's anti-Muslim rhetoric would increase ISIL recruits and increase flows of refugees to Europe.
He says he would make friends with Putin and that Nato members need to pay fro their own defence. Nato would diminish in importance. Our influence in Nato would diminish as the French and Germans moved quickly towards their European Army. Putin would be delighted and the Baltic states would live in fear.
Trump would cause a trade war with China and has expressed his lack of support for US security guarantees to Japan and South Korea. The Asian economies would deteriorate, damaging world trade.
Trump wouldn't give a toss about negotiating a UK-US trade deal.
Zod said:
One thing that I am not surprised by, but cannot fathom, is that so many Brexit-supporters want Trump to win. If Trump wins and we leave the EU, we will be royally fked.
Trump would make a lot of noise about crushing ISIL, but would otherwise abandon the Middle East and walk away from the Iran nuiclear deal. Saudi Rabia woudl be weakened and Iran, with Russia's help would beome the major power in the region. Meanwhile, Trump's anti-Muslim rhetoric would increase ISIL recruits and increase flows of refugees to Europe.
He says he would make friends with Putin and that Nato members need to pay fro their own defence. Nato would diminish in importance. Our influence in Nato would diminish as the French and Germans moved quickly towards their European Army. Putin would be delighted and the Baltic states would live in fear.
Trump would cause a trade war with China and has expressed his lack of support for US security guarantees to Japan and South Korea. The Asian economies would deteriorate, damaging world trade.
Trump wouldn't give a toss about negotiating a UK-US trade deal.
Possibly, possibly not, but as we're not voting en masse in June for Trump or anyone else stateside, as far as the next potus goes it's que sera sera.ked.Trump would make a lot of noise about crushing ISIL, but would otherwise abandon the Middle East and walk away from the Iran nuiclear deal. Saudi Rabia woudl be weakened and Iran, with Russia's help would beome the major power in the region. Meanwhile, Trump's anti-Muslim rhetoric would increase ISIL recruits and increase flows of refugees to Europe.
He says he would make friends with Putin and that Nato members need to pay fro their own defence. Nato would diminish in importance. Our influence in Nato would diminish as the French and Germans moved quickly towards their European Army. Putin would be delighted and the Baltic states would live in fear.
Trump would cause a trade war with China and has expressed his lack of support for US security guarantees to Japan and South Korea. The Asian economies would deteriorate, damaging world trade.
Trump wouldn't give a toss about negotiating a UK-US trade deal.
Obama has attempted to stick his nose into the Brexit debate by threatening Britain if we leave the EU when he stated he would make the UK wait to negotiate a trade agreement with the US. There is nothing to suggest Trump will do the same.
Trump has recently said he can negotiate with a number of countries (China included).
At this point it is all about getting the party nomination - which Trump appears to have all but sealed with the other candidates having withdrawn - moving into the election proper it is not unusual for policy positions to (drastically) change, depending on polling and lobbying, plus the view of any VP running mate.
Anything is possible.
Trump has recently said he can negotiate with a number of countries (China included).
At this point it is all about getting the party nomination - which Trump appears to have all but sealed with the other candidates having withdrawn - moving into the election proper it is not unusual for policy positions to (drastically) change, depending on polling and lobbying, plus the view of any VP running mate.
Anything is possible.
Zod said:
Meanwhile, Trump's anti-Muslim rhetoric would increase ISIL recruits and increase flows of refugees to Europe.
So stricter immigration controls in the US are going to make ISIS cause more havoc in the Middle east?. It is a somewhat tenuous connection you must admit.Zod said:
He says he would make friends with Putin and that Nato members need to pay fro their own defence. Nato would diminish in importance. Our influence in Nato would diminish as the French and Germans moved quickly towards their European Army. Putin would be delighted and the Baltic states would live in fear.
Trump would cause a trade war with China and has expressed his lack of support for US security guarantees to Japan and South Korea. The Asian economies would deteriorate, damaging world trade.
Trump wouldn't give a toss about negotiating a UK-US trade deal.
A more isolationist America may well be bad for Europe as a whole as it will have to contribute more to its own security. Whether we are in or out of the EU is an irrelevance to that fact.Trump would cause a trade war with China and has expressed his lack of support for US security guarantees to Japan and South Korea. The Asian economies would deteriorate, damaging world trade.
Trump wouldn't give a toss about negotiating a UK-US trade deal.
In any case the rise of Trump is a symptom not a cause of growing American Isolationism.
Edited by JagLover on Thursday 5th May 11:29
JagLover said:
A more isolationist America may well be bad for Europe as a whole as it will have to contribute more to its own security. Whether we are in or out of the EU is an irrelevance to that fact.
I'm not sure I see this as particularly bad. It would be more expensive yes, but why shouldn't we pay our way? It might mean that our idiot leaders don't end up with aircraft carriers with no planes on them. It might mean that they don't sell our (IIRC just serviced/overhauled) Harriers with nothing to replace them. It might mean that they don't cancel and quickly cut up (so the decision couldn't be reversed?) all of our Nimrod surveillance aircraft. Perhaps if we hadn't had decades under the US's umbrella we might have enough of a nuclear industry to build our own power stations rather than turning to the Chinese?Zod said:
One thing that I am not surprised by, but cannot fathom, is that so many Brexit-supporters want Trump to win. If Trump wins and we leave the EU, we will be royally fked.
Trump would make a lot of noise about crushing ISIL, but would otherwise abandon the Middle East and walk away from the Iran nuiclear deal. Saudi Rabia woudl be weakened and Iran, with Russia's help would beome the major power in the region. Meanwhile, Trump's anti-Muslim rhetoric would increase ISIL recruits and increase flows of refugees to Europe.
He says he would make friends with Putin and that Nato members need to pay fro their own defence. Nato would diminish in importance. Our influence in Nato would diminish as the French and Germans moved quickly towards their European Army. Putin would be delighted and the Baltic states would live in fear.
Trump would cause a trade war with China and has expressed his lack of support for US security guarantees to Japan and South Korea. The Asian economies would deteriorate, damaging world trade.
Trump wouldn't give a toss about negotiating a UK-US trade deal.
Nice story ked.Trump would make a lot of noise about crushing ISIL, but would otherwise abandon the Middle East and walk away from the Iran nuiclear deal. Saudi Rabia woudl be weakened and Iran, with Russia's help would beome the major power in the region. Meanwhile, Trump's anti-Muslim rhetoric would increase ISIL recruits and increase flows of refugees to Europe.
He says he would make friends with Putin and that Nato members need to pay fro their own defence. Nato would diminish in importance. Our influence in Nato would diminish as the French and Germans moved quickly towards their European Army. Putin would be delighted and the Baltic states would live in fear.
Trump would cause a trade war with China and has expressed his lack of support for US security guarantees to Japan and South Korea. The Asian economies would deteriorate, damaging world trade.
Trump wouldn't give a toss about negotiating a UK-US trade deal.
The reason brexit supporters like trump is because he's genuine and not full of s
t like Hilary. He is putting me America first just as we want to put Britain first. He is anti globalist which is why he's against the EU. Why would we need a trade deal with the US? They are a f
king fairytale. Trade deals are not needed ! They only exist to serve the elite. Now wake up and realise which side is corrupt , because it certainly isn't brexit and trump! Plus, what they f
k are we doing in the Middle East anyway? Pull everyone out and leave them all alone. we need to look after our own affairs.M-6fhs1 said:
Zod said:
One thing that I am not surprised by, but cannot fathom, is that so many Brexit-supporters want Trump to win. If Trump wins and we leave the EU, we will be royally fked.
Trump would make a lot of noise about crushing ISIL, but would otherwise abandon the Middle East and walk away from the Iran nuiclear deal. Saudi Rabia woudl be weakened and Iran, with Russia's help would beome the major power in the region. Meanwhile, Trump's anti-Muslim rhetoric would increase ISIL recruits and increase flows of refugees to Europe.
He says he would make friends with Putin and that Nato members need to pay fro their own defence. Nato would diminish in importance. Our influence in Nato would diminish as the French and Germans moved quickly towards their European Army. Putin would be delighted and the Baltic states would live in fear.
Trump would cause a trade war with China and has expressed his lack of support for US security guarantees to Japan and South Korea. The Asian economies would deteriorate, damaging world trade.
Trump wouldn't give a toss about negotiating a UK-US trade deal.
Nice story ked.Trump would make a lot of noise about crushing ISIL, but would otherwise abandon the Middle East and walk away from the Iran nuiclear deal. Saudi Rabia woudl be weakened and Iran, with Russia's help would beome the major power in the region. Meanwhile, Trump's anti-Muslim rhetoric would increase ISIL recruits and increase flows of refugees to Europe.
He says he would make friends with Putin and that Nato members need to pay fro their own defence. Nato would diminish in importance. Our influence in Nato would diminish as the French and Germans moved quickly towards their European Army. Putin would be delighted and the Baltic states would live in fear.
Trump would cause a trade war with China and has expressed his lack of support for US security guarantees to Japan and South Korea. The Asian economies would deteriorate, damaging world trade.
Trump wouldn't give a toss about negotiating a UK-US trade deal.
The reason brexit supporters like trump is because he's genuine and not full of s
t like Hilary. He is putting me America first just as we want to put Britain first. He is anti globalist which is why he's against the EU. Why would we need a trade deal with the US? They are a f
king fairytale. Trade deals are not needed ! They only exist to serve the elite. Now wake up and realise which side is corrupt , because it certainly isn't brexit and trump! Plus, what they f
k are we doing in the Middle East anyway? Pull everyone out and leave them all alone. we need to look after our own affairs.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff