American Presidential candidates GoP/Dems

[GavinPearson]

unrepentant said:

Everyone relax, Trump's people are already walking back the debate thing, saying it was "just a joke".........

Which particular Trump comment are you referring to? Goodness knows there are many of them.

[scherzkeks]

unrepentant said:

Stealing money from veterans? Oh I think people really do care about that. They won't care that Trump is a draft dodger but "veterans" are revered beyond almost anyone else in modern America.

Like many things, it is superficial. I understand how foreigners might have trouble figuring this out. I still have my own moments here in Germany now.

Edited by scherzkeks on Friday 27th May 08:27

[unrepentant]

scherzkeks said:

unrepentant said:

Stealing money from veterans? Oh I think people really do care about that. They won't care that Trump is a draft dodger but "veterans" are revered beyond almost anyone else in modern America.

Like many things, it is superficial. I understand how foreigners might have trouble figuring this out. I still have my own moments here in Germany now.

Edited by scherzkeks on Friday 27th May 08:27

Wow, you really are cynical about your fellow Americans.

I'm naieve, I believe that most people are basically decent. My faith is being tested by the number who think that voting for a racist bigot who thinks nothing of lying and conning his fellow man out of his life savings with a Ponzi scheme though.......

I do agree that there is a lot of hypocricy about veterans. People will profess love for them but ask them to pay more tax to build them decent VA hospitals and the answer is a little different.

[greygoose]

unrepentant said:

I'm naieve

I always have trouble pronouncing Irish names.

[hondafanatic]

greygoose said:

unrepentant said:

I'm naieve

I always have trouble pronouncing Irish names.

Bob. It's probably pronounced Bob.

[Countdown]

unrepentant said:

Stealing money from veterans? Oh I think people really do care about that. They won't care that Trump is a draft dodger but "veterans" are revered beyond almost anyone else in modern America. Trump either stole their money or, more likely, bragged with exaggeration about how much had been raised.

If he's challenged on it he will just deny it. He'll say he's donated thousands/millions/billions to veterans. He'll say it very loudly until everybody gets bored.

[unrepentant]

hondafanatic said:

greygoose said:

unrepentant said:

I'm naieve

I always have trouble pronouncing Irish names.

Bob. It's probably pronounced Bob.

I was on my way out when I posted and didn't spot that. It's naïve of me to think I would get away with it. Some knave lurking in the nave was bound to spot it.

[scherzkeks]

unrepentant said:

I do agree that there is a lot of hypocricy about veterans. People will profess love for them but ask them to pay more tax to build them decent VA hospitals and the answer is a little different.

Yes, as I was saying

[Sam All]

unrepentant said:

My faith is being tested by the number who think that voting for a racist bigot who thinks nothing of lying and conning his fellow man out of his life savings with a Ponzi scheme though.......

I do agree that there is a lot of hypocricy about veterans. People will profess love for them but ask them to pay more tax to build them decent VA hospitals and the answer is a little different.

Explain what makes him a racist? Or is his experience of Mexicans/Muslims seen as racism?

Lying/conning people - that's an American sport surely? Has Hilary never lied/conned people - perhaps also out of money?

I assume you donate a percentage of your income for Veterans

[rscott]

Sam All said:

unrepentant said:

My faith is being tested by the number who think that voting for a racist bigot who thinks nothing of lying and conning his fellow man out of his life savings with a Ponzi scheme though.......

I do agree that there is a lot of hypocricy about veterans. People will profess love for them but ask them to pay more tax to build them decent VA hospitals and the answer is a little different.

Explain what makes him a racist? Or is his experience of Mexicans/Muslims seen as racism?

Lying/conning people - that's an American sport surely? Has Hilary never lied/conned people - perhaps also out of money?

I assume you donate a percentage of your income for Veterans

He could just do a Trump - say he's donating, but never actually bother doing it.

[unrepentant]

scherzkeks said:

unrepentant said:

I do agree that there is a lot of hypocricy about veterans. People will profess love for them but ask them to pay more tax to build them decent VA hospitals and the answer is a little different.

Yes, as I was saying

My point is that veterans are perceived and portrayed as being beyond reproach, any discernible abuse of them plays very poorly in the media and with the public in general, even if in private people don't care quite as much as they pretend in public. Vets are also a pretty vocal (and large) group and they have some very articulate and media friendly spokespeople like Alexander McCoy.

[anonymous-user]

unrepentant said:

My point is that veterans are perceived and portrayed as being beyond reproach, any discernible abuse of them plays very poorly in the media and with the public in general, even if in private people don't care quite as much as they pretend in public. Vets are also a pretty vocal (and large) group and they have some very articulate and media friendly spokespeople like Alexander McCoy.

It's cringeworthy how cloying the adverts on US tv are; everyone from car insurance and estate agents to airlines all trying to cash in on showing how earnestly respectful they are. Ech

[scherzkeks]

unrepentant said:

My point is that veterans are perceived and portrayed as being beyond reproach, any discernible abuse of them plays very poorly in the media and with the public in general, even if in private people don't care quite as much as they pretend in public. Vets are also a pretty vocal (and large) group and they have some very articulate and media friendly spokespeople like Alexander McCoy.

And my point is that privately, no one cares. Hence, no one really cares and the story will fade.

[Halb]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-3637292...
US election: Why has Trump caught Clinton in the polls?

[unrepentant]

Halb said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-3637292...
US election: Why has Trump caught Clinton in the polls?

Because she's still fighting Sanders. Ignore the polls, they're meaningless until after the conventions.

[turbobloke]

unrepentant said:

Ignore the polls, they're meaningless until after the conventions.

Pity you didn't mention this back in the first week of May.

unrepentant said:

Latest CNN poll has HRC ahead by 13.

[chris watton]

turbobloke said:

unrepentant said:

Ignore the polls, they're meaningless until after the conventions.

Pity you didn't mention this back in the first week of May.

unrepentant said:

Latest CNN poll has HRC ahead by 13.

Unrep's clear love for HRC is verging on the psychotic.

Part of me dearly wants Trump[f] to win, just see if he goes into a virtual apoplectic sulk on here!

[Axionknight]

chris watton said:

Unrep's clear love for HRC is verging on the psychotic.

Part of me dearly wants Trump[f] to win, just see if he goes into a virtual apoplectic sulk on here!

I too like the idea of him winning, out of perverse curiosity more than anything else.

[Axionknight]

turbobloke said:

unrepentant said:

Ignore the polls, they're meaningless until after the conventions.

Pity you didn't mention this back in the first week of May.

unrepentant said:

Latest CNN poll has HRC ahead by 13.

[whoami]

chris watton said:

turbobloke said:

unrepentant said:

Ignore the polls, they're meaningless until after the conventions.

Pity you didn't mention this back in the first week of May.

unrepentant said:

Latest CNN poll has HRC ahead by 13.

Unrep's clear love for HRC is verging on the psychotic.

Part of me dearly wants Trump[f] to win, just see if he goes into a virtual apoplectic sulk on here!