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andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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XM5ER said:
Zod said:
boxxob said:
rscott said:
Looks like Scott Adams has now completely lost it. Now claims that ISIS are not attacking the US at the moment because they support Clinton... http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dilbert-cart...
do you think they support Trump?
Is that a serious question, boxboy?
Do you think that they do not take things like who will be the next Potus seriously? Evil brutes they may be but stupid they are not.

Anyway read the actual blog by Adams instead of someone else's misunderstanding of it
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/152379707591/a-lesson...
What a waste of bandwidth. What's his point? Dissonance or actual theory, or not. What moonhowlery.

Petrus1983

8,687 posts

162 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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The plane carrying Mike Pence just came off the runway in New York. Kind of sums up the Trump campaign, glad he's ok though.

unrepentant

21,256 posts

256 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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A 12th woman has accused Spunkers of groping her.

Meanwhile the orange baboon has once again said he'll sue, egged on by his vacuous wife. Gloria Allred's response "be careful what you wish for". biggrin

Colonial

13,553 posts

205 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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unrepentant said:
A 12th woman has accused Spunkers of groping her.

Meanwhile the orange baboon has once again said he'll sue, egged on by his vacuous wife. Gloria Allred's response "be careful what you wish for". biggrin
I don't get this.

Noxious fools were cheering him on when he was going on about how he just grabbed women and kissed him.

Now women are appearing and saying, yeah he did, and it wasn't nice, and somehow they are just there to make him look bad.

Which means that Trump must have been not telling the truth when he said that is what he did.

unrepentant

21,256 posts

256 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Colonial said:
unrepentant said:
A 12th woman has accused Spunkers of groping her.

Meanwhile the orange baboon has once again said he'll sue, egged on by his vacuous wife. Gloria Allred's response "be careful what you wish for". biggrin
I don't get this.

Noxious fools were cheering him on when he was going on about how he just grabbed women and kissed him.

Now women are appearing and saying, yeah he did, and it wasn't nice, and somehow they are just there to make him look bad.

Which means that Trump must have been not telling the truth when he said that is what he did.
You may not have noticed but his supporters are not the cream of society. The average amoeba has a higher IQ than most of the morons who go to his events.

Colonial

13,553 posts

205 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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boxxob said:
if they attacked now, which way would the votes go?

there is also some context:
clinton statements in september
benghazi coverup
those pesky emails and the money and the saudi tyrants
most importantly: triggering people to flood social media to perform this pariah mocking of adams
I'm so glad I bought shares in Alfoil before this election.

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

134 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Colonial said:
Now women are appearing and saying, yeah he did, and it wasn't nice, and somehow they are just there to make him look bad.

Which means that Trump must have been not telling the truth when he said that is what he did.
Have you read the Wikileak in which Clinton's team discusses the fact that Bill's history of sexual predation and her own actions are one her biggest weaknesses?

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b. You said every woman should be believed. Why not the women who accused him?

c. Will you apologize to the women who were wrongly smeared by your husband and his allies?

d. How is what Bill Clinton did different from what Bill Cosby did?"


https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/10/27/wikileaks-...

Consider that in context with the timing of these accusations and the involvement of Gloria "Hollywood" Allred. IMO, much of it is about as believable and convenient as the Assange charges (not the Russian agent ones wink).

PositronicRay

27,008 posts

183 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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KrissKross said:
Just made me think, can anyone name a seriously intelligent politician?
It depends your measure of intelligence, but yes, many I would consider as intelligent.

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

134 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Trabi601 said:
Trump is proof that inheriting stupid amounts of money means you can do absolutely everything you've ever wanted to do - including buying your way to US President. When you have his kind of money, low intelligence and being downright dangerous in your attitudes to much of the rest of the world is no barrier to becoming president.

Many will point a finger at his 'business acumen' as a qualification for presidency - the truth is he'd have made more money by sticking his inherited fortune in a bank than he has out of his business ventures.
I think you need to read up a bit on his opponent. She is easily the more dangerous choice objectively speaking, and will continue the destructive PNAC/neocon policies that have run us into a ditch.

Trump is simply a typical American hustler. Crude, questionable ethics, and not my first choice, but also an unknown in the political realm, aside from his voting history (he's been both an Dem and Rep), and position against the Iraq war (something his opponent cannot claim).

Although my candidate will likely be Stein (if I do not write in Nader), I'd actually vote Trump before Clinton if forced. I would suggest that most left-leaning indies will do the same. It is no coincidence that Wikileaks has targeted Clinton. They get it, too.

schmunk

4,399 posts

125 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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scherzkeks said:
Have you read the Wikileak in which Clinton's team discusses the fact that Bill's history of sexual predation and her own actions are one her biggest weaknesses?

"

b. You said every woman should be believed. Why not the women who accused him?

c. Will you apologize to the women who were wrongly smeared by your husband and his allies?

d. How is what Bill Clinton did different from what Bill Cosby did?"


https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/10/27/wikileaks-...

Consider that in context with the timing of these accusations and the involvement of Gloria "Hollywood" Allred. IMO, much of it is about as believable and convenient as the Assange charges (not the Russian agent ones wink).
Quoting directly from the page you linked:

"It is easy for conservatives to misinterpret this email. In sending it, Klain was not arguing that Bill Clinton's sexual misdeeds were no different from those of Bill Cosby. He was not acknowledging the double standard of Clinton saying victims of sexual assault should be believed, but then attacking her husband's accusers. He was merely raising these issues in order to prepare the Clinton campaign should a Republican opponent (Donald Trump) raise them."

rolleyes

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

134 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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schmunk said:
Quoting directly from the page you linked:

"It is easy for conservatives to misinterpret this email. In sending it, Klain was not arguing that Bill Clinton's sexual misdeeds were no different from those of Bill Cosby. He was not acknowledging the double standard of Clinton saying victims of sexual assault should be believed, but then attacking her husband's accusers. He was merely raising these issues in order to prepare the Clinton campaign should a Republican opponent (Donald Trump) raise them."

rolleyes
Someone has told you what to think. And?

Countdown

39,842 posts

196 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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scherzkeks said:
I think you need to read up a bit on his opponent. She is easily the more dangerous choice objectively speaking, and will continue the destructive PNAC/neocon policies that have run us into a ditch.
Have there been any Democrats who have been members of PNAC?

London424

12,828 posts

175 months

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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The 100 most damning wikileaks so far. Bring back Nixon all is forgiven.

http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

134 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Countdown said:
Have there been any Democrats who have been members of PNAC?
PNAC is dead in the official sense. The new neolib version (or reboot of the neocon's PNAC) is CNAS, and is comprised of neocons and lib hawks following in their footsteps. Your new CNAS approved boogeyman is Putin's Russia.






Four Litre

2,017 posts

192 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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MrBrightSi said:
Halmyre said:
Clinton could be responsible for the kidnapping of Madeleine McCann, the shooting down of flight MH370 and stealing Kim Kardashian's necklace and she'd still be a better President than the honking pile of biological components known as Donald Trump.
She's been implicated in things that are serious failings as a politician. From her behavior with the emails, benghazi, lying about her little sniper incident on a runway in the 90s. Yet you all eat up this "Trump is evil i'd rather have hillary" Hasn't the last 20 years of her actually in some form of political office shown she's unfit yet?

As for this "hateful rhetoric" grow a fking pair, we're starting to see people unashamedly turning their focus more to home and their own rather than this deluded post 90's idea of helping the world out hasn't done much to help anyone really has it?

What i see with all this is the right-on "anti facism/anti capitalism/anti establishment" youth and washed up semi-retarded hippies backing a woman who is the establishment. She represents the government as it has been for the last 20 years.

I just no longer get it, trump is just a braggart i wouldn't want to hang around with, i couldnt see myself being top pals with him, but i do see someone untainted by pay-for-access donations as well as pay from very big companies and countries the average american was supposedly against pre-election.
Perfectly put. If I was American, I would see Trump as somebody who would put the country first as opposed to Hillary who would put herself first and to the highest bidder. Yes trump is un-pc but who cares. Actions speak louder than words in my book.

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Pesty said:
The 100 most damning wikileaks so far. Bring back Nixon all is forgiven.

http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com
Have you even read #2?

The mention of 'secret speech to Wall St' and 'borders are important because...'

It tells me that these 'damaging wikileaks' are only damaging in the minds of foil hat wearers and those in the middle of the intellect bell curve.

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

134 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Pesty said:
The 100 most damning wikileaks so far. Bring back Nixon all is forgiven.

http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com
Excellent.

I had not even seen this particular leak (makes the sexual accusations even more suspect):

Dems created fake groping ad for Craigslist (like Gumtree for you UKers)

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/7870602808323...

Unreal. What slime. laugh

PositronicRay

27,008 posts

183 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Four Litre said:
MrBrightSi said:
Halmyre said:
Clinton could be responsible for the kidnapping of Madeleine McCann, the shooting down of flight MH370 and stealing Kim Kardashian's necklace and she'd still be a better President than the honking pile of biological components known as Donald Trump.
She's been implicated in things that are serious failings as a politician. From her behavior with the emails, benghazi, lying about her little sniper incident on a runway in the 90s. Yet you all eat up this "Trump is evil i'd rather have hillary" Hasn't the last 20 years of her actually in some form of political office shown she's unfit yet?

As for this "hateful rhetoric" grow a fking pair, we're starting to see people unashamedly turning their focus more to home and their own rather than this deluded post 90's idea of helping the world out hasn't done much to help anyone really has it?

What i see with all this is the right-on "anti facism/anti capitalism/anti establishment" youth and washed up semi-retarded hippies backing a woman who is the establishment. She represents the government as it has been for the last 20 years.

I just no longer get it, trump is just a braggart i wouldn't want to hang around with, i couldnt see myself being top pals with him, but i do see someone untainted by pay-for-access donations as well as pay from very big companies and countries the average american was supposedly against pre-election.
Perfectly put. If I was American, I would see Trump as somebody who would put the country first as opposed to Hillary who would put herself first and to the highest bidder. Yes trump is un-pc but who cares. Actions speak louder than words in my book.
I'm no fan of either, however, Trump putting county 1st? Seriously? What do you think he's in it for?

Awaiting another Trump revelation this weekend, to well and truly scupper his chances.

The way I see it, both candidates will be tied up in knots, by the house of representatives and congress. Therefore neither will be able to do anything, at least Hillary is articulate enough as a figurehead on the world stage.

Countdown

39,842 posts

196 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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johnfm said:
Have you even read #2?

The mention of 'secret speech to Wall St' and 'borders are important because...'

It tells me that these 'damaging wikileaks' are only damaging in the minds of foil hat wearers and those in the middle of the intellect bell curve.
"In the middle"? I seriously doubt they get that far up....

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