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Halb

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53,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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TheExcession said:
Sorry to plug up the thread, where are you watching? CNN are broadcasting the intro, Fox are just talking over it.

Oh well here we go...
Fox.
Fair and balanced. biggrin

TheExcession

11,669 posts

250 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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Right straight away - I fvcking hate this teleprompter left/right head movement st and talking a speech.

He's 150 bewildedman percent better than the rest of them, throughout his whole campaign he's always looked forward and spoken from the heart.

This speech feels hollow, there's no natural gaps, there's no natural interlude, it's just flat in any passion.

I hate it. He's become presidential frown

On another point - it sounds like he's getting the Hillarity laryngitis that I forecast.

Before I posted the above I thought I'd wait a moment and watch some more.

This guy has abandoned the turn-left-read/turn-right-read , he knows what he is talking about.

I'm loving it now, he settled down, he's given up on on reading from reading the teleprompter, he's facing forward. Talking from the heart.

Love it!


unrepentant

21,256 posts

256 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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Cruz here in Indy going to announce in about an hour that renowned business failure Carly Fiorina will be his running mate.

KrissKross

2,182 posts

101 months

Halb

Original Poster:

53,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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Watched a bit of Trump...didn't like some of what he said.

Came back in and it's still on Fox and Cruz is talking and his VP is....just listening to Cruz, it's like he can say black is white and yellow is red, words just don't mean the same. He said freedom quite a lot. Language is just meaningless to these types.

RottenIcons

625 posts

98 months

Wednesday 27th April 2016
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longblackcoat said:
RottenIcons said:
I have to tell you something horrid. Sometimes you have to vote on principle not for a 'party' or for a mate or to show you're a great bloke/bird. So it's not a mess, it's having a fully functioning moral compass and acting on it.
Yeah, and I have to tell you something horrid too. Advocating National Socialism, as you were yesterday in this very thread, makes you ill-suited to lecture me or anyone else on the merits of having "a fully functioning moral compass."
So pleased am I about my precis'd account, I have appended what I wrote yesterday:-

""National Socialism. Essentially another financial doctrine whereby the State issues money not based on a virtual or fiat money but based on the number of productive workers and their projected progeny and issuing Oeffa notes to that effect. There are no caps on the size of a private business at all however all articles of incorporation are like those (in fact identical) to those used by John Lewis. as a result National Socialism relies entirely on there being a bread-winner alone and a productive family life. There is no interest charged on personal debt and interest can only be charged on Business loans the rates of which are set by a formula based on the Oeffa notes issued. The Oeffa notes issued under the 3rd Reich were still in use right up to the fall of the wall, they were so stable that they built the 3rd Reich itself and then went on to re-build Germany afterwards as the Morganthau plan accepted them as an acceptable investment vehicle. It is a fabulous system for building a strong but rather regimented society.

Iceland used the 'low-aspect' version of National Socialism to get itself out of the mire and as a result was shunned by the rest of the Worlds Governments because of those 2 words 'National Socialism'. I am a huge advocate of LANS, it is the future, the shame is we here didn't take that route post 2007/8.""

I shall send the Icelanders your sentiments shall I? Low Aspect National Socialism is the future, it is the only way onward and upward. Morally anything else is indefensible.

Edited by RottenIcons on Wednesday 27th April 23:58

JagLover

42,394 posts

235 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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Halb said:
Watched a bit of Trump...didn't like some of what he said.

Came back in and it's still on Fox and Cruz is talking and his VP is....just listening to Cruz, it's like he can say black is white and yellow is red, words just don't mean the same. He said freedom quite a lot. Language is just meaningless to these types.
Watched it as well as I was curious

I guess you would call it "Isolationism-lite". No withdrawal from existing alliances as long as the allies "pay their way" (probably through funding their military's properly though that was unspecified), but avoiding other multi-national commitments and no more nation building.

The end of "nation building" is to be welcomed IMO but America is still going to go around with a big target on its back as backing existing allies in the ME is going to put them squarely opposed to radical Islam. A truly radical foreign policy would be to leave the ME to its own devices.



Countdown

39,860 posts

196 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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JagLover said:
<snip> as backing existing allies in the ME is going to put them squarely opposed to radical Islam. <snip
Its primary ally in the ME is also the main funder/supporter of radical islam. US policy in the ME has been schizophrenic over the last 60 years.

unrepentant

21,256 posts

256 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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A friend went to the Trump Rally in Indy last night. Said the cast of characters assembled was truly bizarre but it was a much smaller crowd than he thought it would be. There are ads running here with a succession of women just repeating things that Trump has said about women in the past year. Truly shocking when you see it that starkly. I think the Fiorina pick for Cruz is too late but if he'd pulled that stunt a month ago it may have had more impact with women voters. Mary Pat Christie's rolling eyes are indicative of what republican women think of Trump, the other 75% of women really detest him...

Bill

52,729 posts

255 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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Ted Cruz is "Lucifer" according to a friend of Don. hehe There isn't enough popcorn in the world.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-3616318...

TheExcession

11,669 posts

250 months

Thursday 28th April 2016
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Bill said:
Ted Cruz is "Lucifer" according to a friend of Don. hehe There isn't enough popcorn in the world.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-3616318...
Cruz has a face like someone melting but is some how still solid. Horrible creature. hehe

Halb

Original Poster:

53,012 posts

183 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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scott adams blog from a few days ago
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/143431313681/the-unfa...

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

251 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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Halb said:
scott adams blog from a few days ago
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/143431313681/the-unfa...
I completely agree with Scott Adams. Very smart guy.

unrepentant

21,256 posts

256 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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Halb said:
scott adams blog from a few days ago
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/143431313681/the-unfa...
Adams is going to look completely stupid pretty soon.

JagLover

42,394 posts

235 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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GavinPearson said:
Halb said:
scott adams blog from a few days ago
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/143431313681/the-unfa...
I completely agree with Scott Adams. Very smart guy.
Some great blogs on this campaign

RottenIcons

625 posts

98 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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JagLover said:
GavinPearson said:
Halb said:
scott adams blog from a few days ago
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/143431313681/the-unfa...
I completely agree with Scott Adams. Very smart guy.
Some great blogs on this campaign
Read this comment:

"I want Trump v Clinton so, so badly. Trump represents the first time (in my lifetime) a non-politician can go after a corrupt career politician with impunity. Even if he loses, we all win.

I can't wait."

You have to say the writer has summed up a growing sentiment that is seeping into the voters consciousness right across the USA.

Halb

Original Poster:

53,012 posts

183 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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unrepentant said:
Adams is going to look completely stupid pretty soon.
Why?

babatunde

736 posts

190 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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RottenIcons said:
JagLover said:
GavinPearson said:
Halb said:
scott adams blog from a few days ago
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/143431313681/the-unfa...
I completely agree with Scott Adams. Very smart guy.
Some great blogs on this campaign
Read this comment:

"I want Trump v Clinton so, so badly. Trump represents the first time (in my lifetime) a non-politician can go after a corrupt career politician with impunity. Even if he loses, we all win.

I can't wait."

You have to say the writer has summed up a growing sentiment that is seeping into the voters consciousness right across the USA.
to be totally fair if you call Hilary Clinton "a corrupt career politician" then you nee to refer to Trump as "a foul mouthed, sexist, racist, multiple bankrupt rabble raiser.

RottenIcons

625 posts

98 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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He's course, hewn from raw timber with the seasoned bark still on him. That is what the slippery rotters in Washington needs up them.

Anything less, anything weaker would mean no change at all.

To break a log jam you need either a flood or battering ram, he is mustering a vote and sentiment that might just be enough to break the dam.

I hope so, I hope so for the USA and I hope so for all Democracies across the World.

Trump is doing what Leicester City has done all season, upset the odds, humbled the big players and given a bigger shout out to the humble.

It's awesome and I really hate using that hackney'd phrase, but in this one instance it really is a moment of awe in football here and politics there.

I support Trump for that reason more than any other, may his god speed his ship to the shore.

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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I had a long telephone conversation with an American colleague yesterday, he is the owner of a manufacturing company in Florida and he probed me about what I thought of the American presidential candidates. I told him that I think that, based on the news we get here in the UK/Europe, Clinton has it in the bag, as Trump is seen as an extremist joke to most of the Western media. He laughed, telling me that he thought that Trump covers the central ground, and many Americans see him as a true American, and Clinton as the crook. I was surprised to hear that, but it was also refreshing to hear a different undiluted viewpoint.

It certainly made me rethink if Clinton really does have this in the bag. Based on all of what we've been drip fed, she has. Time will tell, I guess...
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