American Presidential candidates GoP/Dems

[Countdown]

Pollsters have some doubts about the polls

[turbobloke]

Countdown said:

Pollsters have some doubts about the polls

NSS

They're meaningless until after the conventions

[rscott]

turbobloke said:

Countdown said:

Pollsters have some doubts about the polls

NSS

They're meaningless until after the conventions

I guess they could be as accurate as the polls were before our last General Election!

[unrepentant]

turbobloke said:

unrepentant said:

Ignore the polls, they're meaningless until after the conventions.

Pity you didn't mention this back in the first week of May.

unrepentant said:

Latest CNN poll has HRC ahead by 13.

I think you'll find that was in response to some other poster saying that Trump had caught her.

Trump, having said on Thursday that he'd "love" to debate Bernie, what a great thing it would be etc.. reverses himself on Friday and chickens out.

Meanwhile it's time for the greatest spectacle in racing, no politics this weekend.

[wc98]

unrepentant said:

Meanwhile it's time for the greatest spectacle in racing, no politics this weekend.

??? the tt is not on until next week surely

[turbobloke]

unrepentant said:

turbobloke said:

unrepentant said:

Ignore the polls, they're meaningless until after the conventions.

Pity you didn't mention this back in the first week of May.

unrepentant said:

Latest CNN poll has HRC ahead by 13.

I think you'll find that was in response to some other poster saying that Trump had caught her.

No, not caught; it was about the gap being reduced by half.

Makes no difference, you quoted a poll result as though it meant something, but really should have edumacated us at the time that polls mean nothing until after the conventions.

Also the weekend you're thinking of is June 18th - 19th.

[turbobloke]

BBC website said:

Mr Trump has made a lot of pundits and prognosticators look foolish over the past year.

Nobody at the BBC of course, not sure about PH - any ideas?

There's still a long way to go and more prognostications will doubtless follow.

[unrepentant]

turbobloke said:

Also the weekend you're thinking of is June 18th - 19th.

There's 350,000 people who've come to Indy for the weekend who would argue with you.

Having done both I can see the merits in both. I'd probably go for LM as an event but Indy usually has the best racing and there's nothing quite like experiencing nose to tail 230 MPH racing or the first time you hear the sound that the barriers here make when a car hits them at 200 MPH in front of you. The city is a party for a week, similar to LM too. Both are great events.

[turbobloke]

unrepentant said:

Both are great events.

[Jockman]

turbobloke said:

BBC website said:

Mr Trump has made a lot of pundits and prognosticators look foolish over the past year.

Nobody at the BBC of course, not sure about PH - any ideas?

There's still a long way to go and more prognostications will doubtless follow.

Unbelievable.

You quoted the BBC

[Jockman]

Just read the Neil Young interview in The Times. No lover of Trump and objected to him using his music for a recent rally.

Heavily in favour of Sanders. No strategy post Sanders.

Key concern for the Democrats

[turbobloke]

Jockman said:

turbobloke said:

BBC website said:

Mr Trump has made a lot of pundits and prognosticators look foolish over the past year.

Nobody at the BBC of course, not sure about PH - any ideas?

There's still a long way to go and more prognostications will doubtless follow.

Unbelievable.

You quoted the BBC

The website isn't out of bounds

[Halb]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-3640117...

Shame.

[AreOut]

I think it's actually a smart move, a lot to lose little to gain from that debate.

[rscott]

AreOut said:

I think it's actually a smart move, a lot to lose little to gain from that debate.

Makes you wonder why Trump agreed to it in the first place.

[scherzkeks]

rscott said:

Makes you wonder why Trump agreed to it in the first place.

Because it makes him appear more credible. He already knows (and knew then) who the nominee will be, as reflected in his excuse.

It is a win-win for him on the superficial level. There was never any intention to go through with it, I would wager. Also has the side benefit of drawing more Sanders supporters in in the wake of Hillary's recent comments.

[Countdown]

rscott said:

AreOut said:

I think it's actually a smart move, a lot to lose little to gain from that debate.

Makes you wonder why Trump agreed to it in the first place.

He craves publicity.

[turbobloke]

Countdown said:

rscott said:

AreOut said:

I think it's actually a smart move, a lot to lose little to gain from that debate.

Makes you wonder why Trump agreed to it in the first place.

He craves publicity.

For all his failings he's a half-decent tactician.

[rscott]

scherzkeks said:

rscott said:

Makes you wonder why Trump agreed to it in the first place.

Because it makes him appear more credible. He already knows (and knew then) who the nominee will be, as reflected in his excuse.

It is a win-win for him on the superficial level. There was never any intention to go through with it, I would wager. Also has the side benefit of drawing more Sanders supporters in in the wake of Hillary's recent comments.

I think it makes him look as though he speaks first and thinks later. Nothing about Sanders changed between him agreeing to the debate and then changing his mind.
Makes it obvious to me he thought agreeing would be a good sound bite but never thought of the consequences (bit of a familiar pattern with Trump though) .

[Halb]

Countdown said:

He craves publicity.

That is the M.O. of a candidate.