American Presidential candidates GoP/Dems

[Sam All]

amusingduck said:

unrepentant said:

The FBI have already let it be known that there's no indictment coming.

Care to source that whopper?

Countdown probably.

[XM5ER]

unrepentant said:

Nothing to see, non issue. The FBI have already let it be known that there's no indictment coming. The only classified documents involved were not classified at the time and were only classified in retrospect. Previous SOS's used similar systems. Yawn. The only people interested in this are ever more desperate republicans who are watching their party disappear down the Trumpist sewer that they have dug for themselves.

Do you genuinely think that she is a great leader of the free world or just the least worse option?

Personally I think they are all equally awful.

[Sam All]

XM5ER said:

Do you genuinely think that she is a great leader of the free world or just the least worse option?

Personally I think they are all equally awful.

Fair question, and agree with the sentiment.

[Halb]

GavinPearson said:

Hillary Clinton needs to explain how she can be so heavily pro-LGBT and yet willing to take the money of people who don't just hate the LGBT community but lock them up and execute them.

Who is that?

[Jockman]

Sam All said:

amusingduck said:

unrepentant said:

The FBI have already let it be known that there's no indictment coming.

Care to source that whopper?

Countdown probably.

[amusingduck]

Halb said:

GavinPearson said:

Hillary Clinton needs to explain how she can be so heavily pro-LGBT and yet willing to take the money of people who don't just hate the LGBT community but lock them up and execute them.

Who is that?

Saudi Arabia? $10-25m worth.

[Halb]

amusingduck said:

Saudi Arabia? $10-25m worth.

She takes money privately?

[amusingduck]

Halb said:

She takes money privately?

The Clinton Foundation

[Jimbeaux]

Lets review:

1) The State Department recently revealed that HRC failed to record 75 meetings between herself & Clinton Foundation donors while employed as SOS. Very big no, no.

2) Millions of Dollars accepted by the Clinton Foundation from nations that legally execute homosexuals as well as institutionally mistreat women.

3) The Russian reset was under her watch. Ask the Crimea how that turned out.

4) She led US diplomacy that saw Libya fall into the chaos it is today.

5) The Syrian civil war began under her watch. Her & Obama's failure to enforce his own "red line" against Assad contributed to that.

6) Yet another report, released last night, confirms that the she knew Benghazi was a terrorist attack and not caused by an angry mob. We all heard her come on TV and tell not only the family of the dead Ambassador & four other Americans, but the US public that this was caused by someone posting an anti-Islamic video. Her email to her daughter, from the night before that address, clearly shows her telling Chelsea that this was a terror attack.

She is corrupt, crooked, & even worse, easily able to lie to the face of dead public servant's families. Countdown told me earlier that comparing these things to a scandal involving Trump's real estate school is ridiculous. I agree Countdown, comparisons are ridiculous.

[Jimbeaux]

amusingduck said:

Countdown said:

Just because they're investigating her doesn't automatically mean she's done something illegal. They won't know until the investigation's been completed.

"Secretary Clinton should have preserved any federal records she created and received on her personal account by printing and filing those records with the related files in the Office of the Secretary. At a minimum, Secretary Clinton should have surrendered all emails dealing with Department business before leaving government service and, because she did not do so, she did not comply with the department’s policies that were implemented in accordance with the Federal Records Act."
Page 23,http://static.politico.com/f3/9b/19d29ab14abeb4a30ca2975f1e6c/oig-report.pdf ,reported by the State Department inspector general’s office.

"What are the Risks of Poor Management of Records?
Increased difficulty or inability to complete your work and meet your responsibilities
Difficulties in fulfilling FOIA or litigation requests
Criminal or civil penalties, fines and/or imprisonment for:
The unlawful removal or destruction of federal records (18 U.S.C. 2071)
The unlawful disclosure of national security information (18 U.S.C. 793,794,& 798)
Justice.gov

Tell me again, how she has done nothing illegal.

Excellent post Duck.

[Jimbeaux]

GavinPearson said:

vetrof said:

Sam Harris in not a fan of Trump.

https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/the-end-of-...

I get my news from ABC and CBS which are about as mainstream as you get. I have never heard of the guy and I am pretty sure that very few people have either.

Atheism is not popular in the USA, so while he can have an opinion and write or broadcast it, the actual number of people who will do as he specifically advocates will be insignificant.

This is why politicians become pals with actors and celebrities - people actually pay attention to what they say.

That is a very accurate observation Gavin.

[Jimbeaux]

Clinton stands in front of people, who obviously do not know better, going on about how she is going to rein in Wall Street and big banks. Clinton is literally owned by Wall Street and big banks, they have donated untold millions to her. She has been accepting an average of $280,000 per speech from Wall Street speaking engagements totaling millions of dollars. Add hypocrisy to her lists of talents please.

[rohrl]

Jimbeaux said:

Clinton is literally owned by Wall Street and big banks...

I thought you lot had outlawed slavery.

[Jimbeaux]

rohrl said:

Jimbeaux said:

Clinton is literally owned by Wall Street and big banks...

I thought you lot had outlawed slavery.

This is worse, her servitude is by her own hand.

[Sam All]

Clinton cleared on Benghazi - someone is looking after her.


http://www.theworldweekly.com/reader/view/newswire...

[rohrl]

Sam All said:

Clinton cleared on Benghazi - someone is looking after her.

http://www.theworldweekly.com/reader/view/newswire...

Yeah, that must be it. It's impossible of course that she didn't actually do anything wrong.

[Jimbeaux]

rohrl said:

Sam All said:

Clinton cleared on Benghazi - someone is looking after her.

http://www.theworldweekly.com/reader/view/newswire...

Yeah, that must be it. It's impossible of course that she didn't actually do anything wrong.

Maybe what they found is correct. Someone messed up, maybe the CIA, etc. We know that special forces could have made it earlier but were ordered to stand down. If they say Clinton was not at fault for that, I believe them. My main problem with Benghazi remains the fact that she told the American public, and the dead peoples' families, that this was not a terrorist attack, when she emailed her daughter the day before saying it was. She knew she was lying to them. It was 56 days before the POTUS election and that could not be let known.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 28th June 18:41

[unrepentant]

rohrl said:

Sam All said:

Clinton cleared on Benghazi - someone is looking after her.

http://www.theworldweekly.com/reader/view/newswire...

Yeah, that must be it. It's impossible of course that she didn't actually do anything wrong.

Both the Benghazi inquiry and the email BS are republican witch hunts to find evidence that doesn't exist. Unfortunately that's the best the GOP have to offer, they have no candidate so they try and smear the democrat. The public are not wearing it.

[Jimbeaux]

unrepentant said:

rohrl said:

Sam All said:

Clinton cleared on Benghazi - someone is looking after her.

http://www.theworldweekly.com/reader/view/newswire...

Yeah, that must be it. It's impossible of course that she didn't actually do anything wrong.

Both the Benghazi inquiry and the email BS are republican witch hunts to find evidence that doesn't exist. Unfortunately that's the best the GOP have to offer, they have no candidate so they try and smear the democrat. The public are not wearing it.

The State Department has said, more than once, that the email thing was illegal. That would be "the" State Department, not the GOP. The FBI decided to investigate as well, that is a "criminal" investigation by "the" FBI, not the GOP.

[whoami]

amusingduck said:

unrepentant said:

The FBI have already let it be known that there's no indictment coming.

Care to source that whopper?

Made up.