American Presidential candidates GoP/Dems

[whoami]

Jockman said:

whoami said:

Oh, and slagging off someone's car is a poor show, but you knew that.

Indeed. I would be rightly upset if someone criticised by Vauxhall corsa

No one would dare.

[unrepentant]

Anti Trump delegates are now suing to allow themselves to vote against him at the convention.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/virginia-gop-delegate-...

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/24/politics/rnc-delegat...

http://www.mediaite.com/online/anti-trump-gop-conv...

[amusingduck]

unrepentant said:

whoami said:

No link then?

No problem.

Oh, and slagging off someone's car is a poor show, but you knew that.

Oh? No proof of an impending indictment then? Never mind.

Your name wouldn't happen to be 'Frank' would it?

[scherzkeks]

unrepentant said:

Anti Trump delegates are now suing to allow themselves to vote against him at the convention.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/virginia-gop-delegate-...

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/24/politics/rnc-delegat...

http://www.mediaite.com/online/anti-trump-gop-conv...

So you support subversion of what little democratic processes exist? Because when you post like this, it looks like you do.

[Jimbeaux]

Here is a truism. HRC has some positive factors and I have mentioned them in past posts; the same for Trump, both good and bad. Others have done the same, while admittedly leaning toward the person of choice.
However, when someone continuously posts only 100% positives about one politician and 100% negatives about another, it is somewhat unrealistic to assume that said poster is genuine in their assessments, as neither candidate could be 100% right or wrong on anything. That poster becomes hard to take seriously as they appear to be an obvious operative of sorts for one party. Just IMO.

[unrepentant]

scherzkeks said:

unrepentant said:

Anti Trump delegates are now suing to allow themselves to vote against him at the convention.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/virginia-gop-delegate-...

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/24/politics/rnc-delegat...

http://www.mediaite.com/online/anti-trump-gop-conv...

So you support subversion of what little democratic processes exist? Because when you post like this, it looks like you do.

Absolutely not!

I think in picking Trump the racist and bigoted 35% of the republican party chose a fantastic candidate.

For the democrats.

[Sam All]

Jimbeaux said:

Here is a truism. HRC has some positive factors and I have mentioned them in past posts; the same for Trump, both good and bad. Others have done the same, while admittedly leaning toward the person of choice.
However, when someone continuously posts only 100% positives about one politician and 100% negatives about another, it is somewhat unrealistic to assume that said poster is genuine in their assessments, as neither candidate could be 100% right or wrong on anything. That poster becomes hard to take seriously as they appear to be an obvious operative of sorts for one party. Just IMO.

[XM5ER]

How do you like them apples Unrepublican?

http://lidblog.com/shocker-not-clinton-superpac-to...
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/285269-exclus...

US politics is so nice (but I suppose it's nicer that IS politics).

[rscott]

XM5ER said:

How do you like them apples Unrepublican?

http://lidblog.com/shocker-not-clinton-superpac-to...
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/285269-exclus...

US politics is so nice (but I suppose it's nicer that IS politics).

So are the super PACs supposed to investigate the business relationships of all their donors? Or just rely on the donors being honest when submitting their donation.

[Countdown]

When HRC receives donations from foreigners it's a bad thing.......

Trump begging foreigners for cash

[unrepentant]

Countdown said:

When HRC receives donations from foreigners it's a bad thing.......

Trump begging foreigners for cash

Trump's raised embarrassingly small amounts and the usual GOP fundraisers want nothing to do with him so he's truly desperate. Even Sheldon Aldeson, who has $100 million waiting to go, has kept it in his pocket because of the shambles. The Trump's are so (relatively) strapped for cash that he's been reimbursing his kids expenses from campaign funds!

Trump still refuses to release his tax returns. There are likely a number of reasons for this. Firstly he probably pays little tax. Secondly he gives nothing to charity. Thirdly he's worth a fraction of what he claims and his income will reflect that.

The Washington Post has looked extensively into Trump's charity claims and can find only one donation, of between $5-10k, from 2008 to 2015. He once announced that he was giving all his fees from Celebrity Apprentice to charity but of course he trousered the lot. The man's a cheap fraud.

(Clinton's gave about $25 million during the same period).

[unrepentant]

It's funny but after all the republican bluster and BS over Benghazi and the $7 million of public money they spent on their witch hunt the family of Ambassador Stephens lay the blame not at the sec of state's door but at theirs.

Ann Stephens said:

Perhaps if Congress had provided a budget to increase security for all missions around the world, then some of the requests for more security in Libya would have been granted. Certainly the State Department is underbudgeted.

I do not blame Hillary Clinton or Leon Panetta. They were balancing security efforts at embassies and missions around the world. And their staffs were doing their best to provide what they could with the resources they had. The Benghazi Mission was understaffed. We know that now. But, again, Chris knew that. It wasn’t a secret to him. He decided to take the risk to go there. It is not something they did to him. It is something he took on himself.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/chris-stevenss-family-dont-blame-hillary-clinton-for-benghazi

[Jimbeaux]

Countdown said:

When HRC receives donations from foreigners it's a bad thing.......

Trump begging foreigners for cash

No, it's when you receive money from foreigners while you are the SOS, the nation's chief diplomat. See the difference?

[Sam All]

Jimbeaux said:

Countdown said:

When HRC receives donations from foreigners it's a bad thing.......

Trump begging foreigners for cash

No, it's when you receive money from foreigners while you are the SOS, the nation's chief diplomat. See the difference?

The religion of convenience - selective viewing

[Jimbeaux]

unrepentant said:

Countdown said:

When HRC receives donations from foreigners it's a bad thing.......

Trump begging foreigners for cash

Trump's raised embarrassingly small amounts and the usual GOP fundraisers want nothing to do with him so he's truly desperate. Even Sheldon Aldeson, who has $100 million waiting to go, has kept it in his pocket because of the shambles. The Trump's are so (relatively) strapped for cash that he's been reimbursing his kids expenses from campaign funds!

Trump still refuses to release his tax returns. There are likely a number of reasons for this. Firstly he probably pays little tax. Secondly he gives nothing to charity. Thirdly he's worth a fraction of what he claims and his income will reflect that.

The Washington Post has looked extensively into Trump's charity claims and can find only one donation, of between $5-10k, from 2008 to 2015. He once announced that he was giving all his fees from Celebrity Apprentice to charity but of course he trousered the lot. The man's a cheap fraud.

(Clinton's gave about $25 million during the same period).

Clinton gave $25 million? Where did they get that amount of money to give? Either from Foundation money she got while selling the nation to foreign governments (the Russian Uranium deal as an example)or from her puppet masters on Wall Street (you know, the one's she is going to rein in) who are some of her chief donators. So laughable.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Thursday 30th June 14:49

[Jimbeaux]

unrepentant said:

It's funny but after all the republican bluster and BS over Benghazi and the $7 million of public money they spent on their witch hunt the family of Ambassador Stephens lay the blame not at the sec of state's door but at theirs.

Ann Stephens said:

Perhaps if Congress had provided a budget to increase security for all missions around the world, then some of the requests for more security in Libya would have been granted. Certainly the State Department is underbudgeted.

I do not blame Hillary Clinton or Leon Panetta. They were balancing security efforts at embassies and missions around the world. And their staffs were doing their best to provide what they could with the resources they had. The Benghazi Mission was understaffed. We know that now. But, again, Chris knew that. It wasn’t a secret to him. He decided to take the risk to go there. It is not something they did to him. It is something he took on himself.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/chris-stevenss-family-dont-blame-hillary-clinton-for-benghazi

Sooo, one building in the middle of a war zone cannot be defended because of budget cuts; yea, sounds reasonable. . Again, go ask the special operations soldiers who were on standby for these missions for another perspective. As I said yesterday, I am very willing to go by whatever the report states, my gripe still remains with the lies that HRC, and Amb. Rice fed the public and the victims' families in the days after the attack. They knew it was not caused by "a video", that was proven by the email she sent to her daughter. More disgusting behavior.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Thursday 30th June 14:54

[unrepentant]

Jimbeaux said:

unrepentant said:

Countdown said:

When HRC receives donations from foreigners it's a bad thing.......

Trump begging foreigners for cash

Trump's raised embarrassingly small amounts and the usual GOP fundraisers want nothing to do with him so he's truly desperate. Even Sheldon Aldeson, who has $100 million waiting to go, has kept it in his pocket because of the shambles. The Trump's are so (relatively) strapped for cash that he's been reimbursing his kids expenses from campaign funds!

Trump still refuses to release his tax returns. There are likely a number of reasons for this. Firstly he probably pays little tax. Secondly he gives nothing to charity. Thirdly he's worth a fraction of what he claims and his income will reflect that.

The Washington Post has looked extensively into Trump's charity claims and can find only one donation, of between $5-10k, from 2008 to 2015. He once announced that he was giving all his fees from Celebrity Apprentice to charity but of course he trousered the lot. The man's a cheap fraud.

(Clinton's gave about $25 million during the same period).

Clinton gave $25 million? Where did they get that amount of money to give? Either from Foundation money she got while selling the nation to foreign governments (the Russian Uranium deal as an example)or from her puppet masters on Wall Street (you know, the one's she is going to rein in) who are some of her chief donators. So laughable.

Don't be obtuse. Both Clinton's were heavily in demand as public speakers, Bill going back to 2000. He made a lot of money and why not? Every popular politician makes big money after they leave office in book sales and public engagements. (Thatcher and Blair both made fortunes). Big Dog was probably the most sought after speaker in the world for many years after he left office. We had him speak to a Yorkshireman's business lunch back in the early 2000's and IIRC he was paid 100k for the speech. That's the market, I'm sure Obama will be even more sought after next year. The Clinton foundation was set up after BC left office and they have donated massively to it from personal income. The difference between them and Trump is stark. The Clinton's have used their wealth to benefit others and have been generous benefactors of many charitable causes. Trump has been generous exclusively to himself.

[unrepentant]

Jimbeaux said:

unrepentant said:

It's funny but after all the republican bluster and BS over Benghazi and the $7 million of public money they spent on their witch hunt the family of Ambassador Stephens lay the blame not at the sec of state's door but at theirs.

Ann Stephens said:

Perhaps if Congress had provided a budget to increase security for all missions around the world, then some of the requests for more security in Libya would have been granted. Certainly the State Department is underbudgeted.

I do not blame Hillary Clinton or Leon Panetta. They were balancing security efforts at embassies and missions around the world. And their staffs were doing their best to provide what they could with the resources they had. The Benghazi Mission was understaffed. We know that now. But, again, Chris knew that. It wasn’t a secret to him. He decided to take the risk to go there. It is not something they did to him. It is something he took on himself.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/chris-stevenss-family-dont-blame-hillary-clinton-for-benghazi

Sooo, one building in the middle of a war zone cannot be defended because of budget cuts; yea, sounds reasonable. . Again, go ask the special operations soldiers who were on standby for these missions for another perspective. As I said yesterday, I am very willing to go by whatever the report states, my gripe still remains with the lies that HRC, and Amb. Rice fed the public and the victims' families in the days after the attack. They knew it was not caused by "a video", that was proven by the email she sent to her daughter. More disgusting behavior.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Thursday 30th June 14:54

Stephens was told of the dangers and warned not to go to Benghazi. He knew what he was doing, ask his family.

Why do you have to edit all your posts? To remove the frothing?

[Jimbeaux]

unrepentant said:

Jimbeaux said:

unrepentant said:

It's funny but after all the republican bluster and BS over Benghazi and the $7 million of public money they spent on their witch hunt the family of Ambassador Stephens lay the blame not at the sec of state's door but at theirs.

Ann Stephens said:

Perhaps if Congress had provided a budget to increase security for all missions around the world, then some of the requests for more security in Libya would have been granted. Certainly the State Department is underbudgeted.

I do not blame Hillary Clinton or Leon Panetta. They were balancing security efforts at embassies and missions around the world. And their staffs were doing their best to provide what they could with the resources they had. The Benghazi Mission was understaffed. We know that now. But, again, Chris knew that. It wasn’t a secret to him. He decided to take the risk to go there. It is not something they did to him. It is something he took on himself.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/chris-stevenss-family-dont-blame-hillary-clinton-for-benghazi

Sooo, one building in the middle of a war zone cannot be defended because of budget cuts; yea, sounds reasonable. . Again, go ask the special operations soldiers who were on standby for these missions for another perspective. As I said yesterday, I am very willing to go by whatever the report states, my gripe still remains with the lies that HRC, and Amb. Rice fed the public and the victims' families in the days after the attack. They knew it was not caused by "a video", that was proven by the email she sent to her daughter. More disgusting behavior.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Thursday 30th June 14:54

Stephens was told of the dangers and warned not to go to Benghazi. He knew what he was doing, ask his family.

Why do you have to edit all your posts? To remove the frothing?

He was warned? Is that your response? Laughable. Frothing? no, edited for fatfingering the keyboard, if that's quite alright with you.

[Jimbeaux]

unrepentant said:

Jimbeaux said:

unrepentant said:

Countdown said:

When HRC receives donations from foreigners it's a bad thing.......

Trump begging foreigners for cash

Trump's raised embarrassingly small amounts and the usual GOP fundraisers want nothing to do with him so he's truly desperate. Even Sheldon Aldeson, who has $100 million waiting to go, has kept it in his pocket because of the shambles. The Trump's are so (relatively) strapped for cash that he's been reimbursing his kids expenses from campaign funds!

Trump still refuses to release his tax returns. There are likely a number of reasons for this. Firstly he probably pays little tax. Secondly he gives nothing to charity. Thirdly he's worth a fraction of what he claims and his income will reflect that.

The Washington Post has looked extensively into Trump's charity claims and can find only one donation, of between $5-10k, from 2008 to 2015. He once announced that he was giving all his fees from Celebrity Apprentice to charity but of course he trousered the lot. The man's a cheap fraud.

(Clinton's gave about $25 million during the same period).

Clinton gave $25 million? Where did they get that amount of money to give? Either from Foundation money she got while selling the nation to foreign governments (the Russian Uranium deal as an example)or from her puppet masters on Wall Street (you know, the one's she is going to rein in) who are some of her chief donators. So laughable.

Don't be obtuse. Both Clinton's were heavily in demand as public speakers, Bill going back to 2000. He made a lot of money and why not? Every popular politician makes big money after they leave office in book sales and public engagements. (Thatcher and Blair both made fortunes). Big Dog was probably the most sought after speaker in the world for many years after he left office. We had him speak to a Yorkshireman's business lunch back in the early 2000's and IIRC he was paid 100k for the speech. That's the market, I'm sure Obama will be even more sought after next year. The Clinton foundation was set up after BC left office and they have donated massively to it from personal income. The difference between them and Trump is stark. The Clinton's have used their wealth to benefit others and have been generous benefactors of many charitable causes. Trump has been generous exclusively to himself.

Do give it a rest. The Clinton foundation is a giant scam, for the Clinton's self enrichment. An example is Haiti. I have visited there 11 times over the last three years. I hear, from those on the ground that actually network day to day, of how the Clintons used the disaster of 2010 to raise money, most of which went "elsewhere" and not Haiti. The money going to Haiti is All U.S. or U.N. combined government funds. Don't try to tell me differently unless you were there, on the ground, with the U.S. AID organization as I have been.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Thursday 30th June 16:06