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[unrepentant]

Better speech than I expected from HRC tonight, she's not an orator in the mould of her husband or Obama. But she delivered tonight. She was succinct and illustrated the choices facing America, laid out her plans on jobs, the economy, security, civil rights, gun control and the environment and then dismantled Trump. She pointed out the positives about America (as did the whole convention) rather than the dark satanic view the republicans presented last week. Stronger together was the theme of the whole convention and it's the right message.

She wasn't my choice as nominee but she'll be a good president and those of us in the US and those in the rest of the world can sleep a little easier knowing that we have a grown up, sane, adult in the White House. As someone with a son in law who is an officer in the RAF I will feel better knowing that as will thousands of Americans and others with sons and daughters in the military.

The alternative is truly unthinkable both for the US and the rest of the world.

[Smiler.]

unrepentant said:

Better speech than I expected from HRC tonight, she's not an orator in the mould of her husband or Obama. But she delivered tonight. She was succinct and illustrated the choices facing America, laid out her plans on jobs, the economy, security, civil rights, gun control and the environment and then dismantled Trump. She pointed out the positives about America (as did the whole convention) rather than the dark satanic view the republicans presented last week. Stronger together was the theme of the whole convention and it's the right message.

She wasn't my choice as nominee but she'll be a good president and those of us in the US and those in the rest of the world can sleep a little easier knowing that we have a grown up, sane, adult in the White House. As someone with a son in law who is an officer in the RAF I will feel better knowing that as will thousands of Americans and others with sons and daughters in the military.

The alternative is truly unthinkable both for the US and the rest of the world.

In other news, OED have taken the word "gullible" out of all their editions.

[amusingduck]

unrepentant said:

As someone with a son in law who is an officer in the RAF I will feel better knowing that as will thousands of Americans and others with sons and daughters in the military.

I doubt the parents of the 4 Americans killed in Benghazi would agree with you there.

[amusingduck]

hidetheelephants said:

It might raise more than a quizzical eyebrow if the uranium supply was tight, but it isn't, either in the short or medium term; market price dictates how hard prospectors look for new economic deposits so I'm fairly sanguine about it given how stable the price has been, it's already been proven that uranium can be extracted from seawater so there are very finite limits to how much influence such an apparent monopoly can have. If Putin hypothetically took control of that particular boardroom it's not beyond the wit of man to enforce the laws governing strategic materials and prevent any ore leaving the US. In the very long term we'll be using thorium anyway so it won't matter.

It's not that she sold uranium to Russia, it's the """donations""" to the Clinton Foundation that followed soonafter.

[amusingduck]

FBI warned Clinton campaign about DNC hack in March
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/28/fb...

Article said:

The FBI warned the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign in March that its computers had been the object of a foreign-government cyberattack, Yahoo News reported Thursday evening.
However, according to Yahoo News, when the FBI requested that the Clinton team turn over email logs and staff addresses, the campaign’s lawyers refused.

What does it say when a politician is more worried over what the FBI is going to do with their emails than what a hacker might do?

[Smiler.]

Just heard a bit of her speech.

Hilarity Clinton said:

......it's with all humility........that I accept this nomination.....

Had me running for the bathroom & not in a Unrepentpants way.

[scherzkeks]

fblm said:

Oh please. Deleting tens of thousands of emails from your apparently not specifically illegal at the time just fvcking stupid personal email server conveniently before the FBI can get its hands on them isn't a felony but openly calling for someone who probably hacked them to hand them over is? How blinkered can your support be? The guy talks incessant BS, you can tear him apart on just about everything that comes out of his nasty mouth but hoping aloud someone helps Saint Hillary recover her emails?

Edited by fblm on Friday 29th July 02:56

It has started to move into troll territory, hasn't it?

Meanwhile, a reality check on the convention: http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-democrat...

Edited by scherzkeks on Friday 29th July 08:33

[hidetheelephants]

Jockman said:

TheExcession said:

What a horrible horrible woman. I just cannot fathom why anyone would want her leading the US.

You can. The alternative is obvious. What a fooookin choice.

I just loved the way Obama stated he knew HRC would never rest until ISIS were defeated. Which begs the obvious question. Why the fooook did you create a vacuum for them to be created???

I remember the hope in 1997 of Blair. I remember the hope in 2008 of Obama. Where is the hope now?

It was GWB(with assistance from Blair) who created that particular vacuum; admittedly BO didn't exactly rush to fill the vacuum, but then he was at least partially elected on the basis he would reduce US involvement in military intervention.

[Legend83]

unrepentant said:

Lovely video about Clinton playing as part of her intro after Chelsea's introductory speech. Morgan Freeman narrating.

Oh, please.

[Pan Pan Pan]

Legend83 said:

unrepentant said:

Lovely video about Clinton playing as part of her intro after Chelsea's introductory speech. Morgan Freeman narrating.

Oh, please.

I guess the problem is that half the world think that Trump as president of the US would be a disaster, whilst the other half think that Clinton would be a disaster. Interesting times lay ahead.

[wc98]

glazbagun said:

If the Republicans had picked a better candidate than Donald Trump, I'd probably agree that she was ripe for a kicking, but their top two surely had no chance with centrists.

This is a fght between the two least popular candidates since polls began, after all.

it is a fight between two utter pieces of scum that are an affront to humanity .i really hope the saying regarding the electorate get the government they deserve is not true in this case, as i find it hard to believe any country in the world deserves either of these two.

maybe this will be the presidency that highlights why the americans are so protective of their right to bear arms to protect themselves from the government .

[rscott]

Reported on Radio 4 this morning that Clinton is the 2 least popular presidential candidate in recent history. But that Trump is in the number 1 slot in that ranking.

[wc98]

unrepentant said:

Lovely video about Clinton playing as part of her intro after Chelsea's introductory speech. Morgan Freeman narrating.

i get you are big into your appeals to authority, but ffs since when were hollywood actors political giants ? oh ye, reagan . that went well ,started the ball rolling on becoming the most indebted nation on earth.

[Halb]

unrepentant said:

Here we go. Bungling bigot Mike Pence predicts that Roe v Wade will be overturned if Trump becomes POTUS. Perhaps that was Pence's quid pro quo for agreeing to go on the ticket when everyone else remotely credible had turned it down? Either way it would take us back to the 19th Century and is yet another reason why Trump must be defeated.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/roe-v-wade-...

Indeed.

[Halb]

hidetheelephants said:

It was GWB(with assistance from Blair) who created that particular vacuum; admittedly BO didn't exactly rush to fill the vacuum, but then he was at least partially elected on the basis he would reduce US involvement in military intervention.

The Bill Hicks routine on Clinton springs to mind here.

[babatunde]

pretty much says it all IMO

[scherzkeks]

Pan Pan Pan said:

Legend83 said:

unrepentant said:

Lovely video about Clinton playing as part of her intro after Chelsea's introductory speech. Morgan Freeman narrating.

Oh, please.

I guess the problem is that half the world think that Trump as president of the US would be a disaster, whilst the other half think that Clinton would be a disaster. Interesting times lay ahead.

I think if we look at it rationally, neither would be devastating in and of themselves, as the forces that shape policy are largely independent of the president. THe US is an empire in decline and the machine is eating itself at present.

The prime reason I find Clinton so terrifying is her foreign policy. She is a neocon in all but name, and will do nothing but enable. And this ramp up with the Russians and Chinese is very dangerous.

[Countdown]

Sam All said:

Hilary nows more about ISIS than the generals do, so she says. Why didn't she tell them what she knows?

That was what Trump said. She was quoting Spunky in her speech to demonstrate what a moron he was.

[Sam All]

Countdown said:

Sam All said:

Hilary knows more about ISIS than the generals do, so she says. Why didn't she tell them what she knows?

That was what Trump said. She was quoting Spunky in her speech to demonstrate what a moron he was.

Apologies - just picked a clip on the news. My mistake.

BUT really she could talk about herself more CD - is the right name for her y in your terminology?

[amusingduck]

scherzkeks said:

I think if we look at it rationally, neither would be devastating in and of themselves, as the forces that shape policy are largely independent of the president. THe US is an empire in decline and the machine is eating itself at present.

The prime reason I find Clinton so terrifying is her foreign policy. She is a neocon in all but name, and will do nothing but enable. And this ramp up with the Russians and Chinese is very dangerous.

George Soros has splashed out $25m on HRC

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/george-soros-returns...