American Presidential candidates GoP/Dems

[Burwood]

I'd go live in Australia if Corbyn gets into No 10

[GavinPearson]

unrepentant said:

The more ludicrous Trump is the better his numbers, the more Carson's lies are exposed the better his numbers. What does this tell you? A lot about GOP voters.

I thought Rubio was very strong last night and it looks like he will emerge as the candidate. The big winner is Hillary who will walk past whoever finally emerges from this circus.

The fact that you are surprised is surprising. A pollster asks GOP voters who they are voting for and they answer Trump. It's hardly surprising is it? They clearly don't like the current White House agenda and want the total opposite. Well you don't get much more opposite than Trump or Carson.

[unrepentant]

GavinPearson said:

unrepentant said:

The more ludicrous Trump is the better his numbers, the more Carson's lies are exposed the better his numbers. What does this tell you? A lot about GOP voters.

I thought Rubio was very strong last night and it looks like he will emerge as the candidate. The big winner is Hillary who will walk past whoever finally emerges from this circus.

The fact that you are surprised is surprising. A pollster asks GOP voters who they are voting for and they answer Trump. It's hardly surprising is it? They clearly don't like the current White House agenda and want the total opposite. Well you don't get much more opposite than Trump or Carson.

I'm not surprised at all. I have a very low opinion of the mental capacity of the average republican voter. The success of Trump and Carson is a sad indictment of the GOP and the morons who vote for them.

[Foppo]

What is the problem unrepentant with Mexicans entering the States.Is it illegal immigration or is Trump just stirring the pot for troube.

He is on about building a wall,is this just comedy politics or what? You live in the States big country I know so many different opinions.

[PomBstard]

Burwood said:

I'd go live in Australia if Corbyn gets into No 10

I guess you'd move here then...

However, don't expect anything remotely interesting to happen in Aussie politics, other than antics to prove we're in the middle of nowhere, and really not that important. We have nothing on the GoP candidates

[Halb]

Trump is a crazy outsider. It's mildly amusing how all the GoP lot are declaring they're all outsiders.

[unrepentant]

Foppo said:

What is the problem unrepentant with Mexicans entering the States.Is it illegal immigration or is Trump just stirring the pot for troube.

He is on about building a wall,is this just comedy politics or what? You live in the States big country I know so many different opinions.

The country needs immigration, it needs the workers who cross the Southern border to do the low paid jobs that Americans don't want. The immigration system is cumbersome and expensive, it is broken. Fix the system. The people who cross the Southern border desperate for work do not commit crime, they stay way below the radar for fear of being caught and deported. Trump is a moron who panders to the basest fears of the uneducated GOP voter. Forget the 1% with vested interests. The average republican voter is a 60 year old white male Christian with a high school education. He's scared of immigrants because they're different from him, have different values and he thinks they "Took errrrrrr jobs". He's scared of Obama because he's different, he thinks he's not really a Christian and he sure 'aint white and he wants to take away our guns. People like Trump with their racism and hatred and scaremongering feed into the insecurities of old white man who hears a lot of his beliefs being spouted by the rich guy (we know he's really rich because he keeps fking telling us) with the big mouth and the mike and thinks "I'll vote for that guy, he's my kind of bigot".

Trump will not be president, nor will he get the nomination. What he is is gold for Hillary. Whoever does get the nomination will have Trump's words thrown back at him all through the GE campaign.

[scherzkeks]

Halb said:

Trump is a crazy outsider. It's mildly amusing how all the GoP lot are declaring they're all outsiders.

Really? I'd argue the exact opposite. He is establishment through and through. The only difference is in his style of presentation, and this is what worries the GOP. They know he does not appear "serious" enough, but in the end, he'd do the job as poorly (or well, depending on who you are) as any of the others. Consider that Ben Carson has a set of quotes that rival Trump in terms of outright stupidity, but he is taken far more seriously.

There are no candidates capable of righting the sinking ship of state in this election. Sanders, perhaps, but I suspect he'd turn out to be as poor a president as Obama -- a one-man marketing campaign that has done nothing but pander to the titans of finance and MIC, accelerate the security state, strangle the last vestiges of the free press, and continue imperial wars for resources. Put a fork in it already.

[Esseesse]

scherzkeks said:

Halb said:

Trump is a crazy outsider. It's mildly amusing how all the GoP lot are declaring they're all outsiders.

Really? I'd argue the exact opposite.

He seems keen on balancing trade with the rest of the world. This is the opposite of what the west seems to be intent on doing and has been doing for decades. Is this policy crazy? Is running massive trade deficits not crazy?

[Truckosaurus]

There was an article in Rolling Stone magazine recently about Trump. They suggested that Trump had some good ideas (from their liberal perspective) but that he spoiled it by being an arse and saying ridiculous thing the rest of the time.

[MadmanO/T People]

Oh, Ben Carson, you're the gift that keeps on giving!

Ben Carson says he would not have aborted Baby Hitler.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/11/politics/ben-carson-...


Seriously, you can't make this up!

[speedy_thrills]

unrepentant said:

The big winner is Hillary who will walk past whoever finally emerges from this circus.

You'd have to say it does look like they'll make it easy for her if they choose an unelectable candidate. Republicans should reconsider if primaries really the best way of finding a candidate who will be able to gather the wider political consensus they require.

[Godalmighty83]

The thought of Trump in power is equal parts terrifying and hilarious.

[scherzkeks]

MadmanO/T People said:

Oh, Ben Carson, you're the gift that keeps on giving!

Ben Carson says he would not have aborted Baby Hitler.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/11/politics/ben-carson-...


Seriously, you can't make this up!

Ponder this: What professional reporter asks a presidential candidate if he would approve of "going back in time and aborting baby Hitler"? What kind of news operations publish this as headline news? What kind of adult finds this ridiculous question significant?

Ben Carson is merely a product of his environment.

[Halmyre]

scherzkeks said:

MadmanO/T People said:

Oh, Ben Carson, you're the gift that keeps on giving!

Ben Carson says he would not have aborted Baby Hitler.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/11/politics/ben-carson-...


Seriously, you can't make this up!

Ponder this: What professional reporter asks a presidential candidate if he would approve of "going back in time and aborting baby Hitler"? What kind of news operations publish this as headline news? What kind of adult finds this ridiculous question significant?

Ben Carson is merely a product of his environment.

You must admit, it's a brilliant question, there's no right answer (well, apart from "take your stupid question and fk off", but that wouldn't go down too well either).

Answer "yes" - pro-abortion baby-killer!
Answer "no" - Nazi!

(Edited to correct brain-fade error)

Edited by Halmyre on Friday 13th November 10:11

[scherzkeks]

Halmyre said:

You must admit, it's a brilliant question, there's no wrong answer (well, apart from "take your stupid question and fk off", but that wouldn't go down too well either).

Answer "yes" - pro-abortion baby-killer!
Answer "no" - Nazi!

You've confirmed my point. How could anyone reacting in that manner be anything other than an idiot?

[loafer123]

Truckosaurus said:

There was an article in Rolling Stone magazine recently about Trump. They suggested that Trump had some good ideas (from their liberal perspective) but that he spoiled it by being an arse and saying ridiculous thing the rest of the time.

It works for Boris.

[Halmyre]

scherzkeks said:

Halmyre said:

You must admit, it's a brilliant question, there's no wrong answer (well, apart from "take your stupid question and fk off", but that wouldn't go down too well either).

Answer "yes" - pro-abortion baby-killer!
Answer "no" - Nazi!

You've confirmed my point. How could anyone reacting in that manner be anything other than an idiot?

"wrong answer" should of course read "right answer".

[scherzkeks]

Halmyre said:

"wrong answer" should of course read "right answer".

It doesn't matter really.

[hidetheelephants]

scherzkeks said:

Ponder this: What professional reporter asks a presidential candidate if he would approve of "going back in time and aborting baby Hitler"? What kind of news operations publish this as headline news? What kind of adult finds this ridiculous question significant?

Ben Carson is merely a product of his environment.

You might have a point about the stness of US MSM, but Ben Carson is a product of his crackpot schismatic sect; as long as the GoP allows bampots like him the oxygen of publicity they'll continue to remain in the wilderness while the Dems select a succession of decidely mediocre presidents.

Edited by hidetheelephants on Saturday 14th November 01:11