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paulguitar said:
Moment of the debate for me, when Hilary was talking about the last tax return Trump released, years ago, where he did not pay much tax, and he said, (almost involuntarily) ’that makes me smart’. True colours came right out there…………………..
The other one, he said ‘I did a great service’ on getting Obama to release his birth certificate. Disgusting. The only good thing I can see coming from any of this is I think Obama will be held in higher regard in years to come, for his intelligence and inherent dignity.
I'd be astonished if Hillary's campaign team didn't use both those moments in television adverts, as well as the time Trump again referred to the multi-million dollar loan from his father as "small", having not disputed her figure of $14M.The other one, he said ‘I did a great service’ on getting Obama to release his birth certificate. Disgusting. The only good thing I can see coming from any of this is I think Obama will be held in higher regard in years to come, for his intelligence and inherent dignity.
paulguitar said:
Moment of the debate for me, when Hilary was talking about the last tax return Trump released, years ago, where he did not pay much tax, and he said, (almost involuntarily) ’that makes me smart’. True colours came right out there…………………..
in the US you pay 2 lots of tax i think, seems no different to Amazon paying no tax, at least he is honest about it.The Spruce goose said:
paulguitar said:
Moment of the debate for me, when Hilary was talking about the last tax return Trump released, years ago, where he did not pay much tax, and he said, (almost involuntarily) ’that makes me smart’. True colours came right out there…………………..
in the US you pay 2 lots of tax i think, seems no different to Amazon paying no tax, at least he is honest about it.rscott said:
schmunk said:
Digga said:
Whilst I dislike a lot of what Trump stands for, I find the establishment cronyism of the Clintons equally distasteful.
( http://elitedaily.com/news/politics/donald-trump-h... )
XM5ER said:
#Clintonemail is going to have another round of popularity now that Obama's collusion is being outed http://nypost.com/2016/09/24/obama-used-pseudonym-...
Nice bunch aren't they.
It is amazing. My favorite bit so far is the IT guy asking for advice on email scrubbing on Reddit. Nice bunch aren't they.
Looking forward to the big Wikileaks dump.
The Spruce goose said:
She definitely wins this edit: https://www.facebook.com/cjmelvin/videos/102072336...rohrl said:
Of course The Drudge Report users are voting that Trump won the debate. The Drudge Report is a right-wing website. I expect that Breitbart say that Trump won the debate too.
This page lists lots of polls. Even time magazine has trump winning I've seen http://www.infowars.com/poll-who-won-the-first-pre...
rohrl said:
5ohmustang said:
rscott said:
Amazingly, Breitbart is only 75% in favour of Trump. That's if you can find the poll amongst all their stories about how the debate was biased, the moderator pro-Clinton, etc.
Take a look at thishttps://i.sli.mg/mCjGC9.png
Pesty said:
rscott said:
Amazingly, Breitbart is only 75% in favour of Trump. That's if you can find the poll amongst all their stories about how the debate was biased, the moderator pro-Clinton, etc.
Take a look at thishttps://i.sli.mg/mCjGC9.png
Equally, it could just be because he kept interrupting Clinton so many times that they decided there wasn't much point asking her..
vox said:
At Monday night’s presidential debate, by our count, Donald Trump interrupted Hillary Clinton 25 times in the first 26 minutes of the debate.
By the time the debate was over, Trump had interrupted Clinton 51 times — whereas Clinton had interrupted Trump just 17 times
Source - http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/9/27/1... .By the time the debate was over, Trump had interrupted Clinton 51 times — whereas Clinton had interrupted Trump just 17 times
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Virtually all of the media have Hillary winning it and virtually all the online polls of actual voters have Trump winning it, make of that what you will.As I have said before it is not as simple as who won the debate as if this were a sixth form debating class. Both candidates have very different starting points. Clinton as the candidate of an increasingly despised establishment at a time when over two thirds of Americans think their country is heading in the wrong direction. Trump articulating some popular positions but very unpopular personally. Trump may not need to have "won" the debate but just appear sane and non-bigoted.
Edited by JagLover on Tuesday 27th September 13:01
Full marks to Clinton for not losing her cool as Mr Sniffy interrupted and hectored throughout.
This was not a good night for Trump as all the credible polls and focus groups have confirmed. His bleak and dystopian view of America does not actually resonate with most people's lives and he came across as someone utterly unprepared for office.
Some of the more moronic posters on here made reference to Clinton's health in the run up to the debate - whether she would last 90 minutes etc.. In fact it was Trump with his constant sniffing, red eyes (the right one appeared to be closed for much of the time) and inability to articulate who looked ill and unfit. She remained bright focused and alert throughout, he appeared to struggle with words and attention. Which is not surprising given what we know about his totally unsuitable temperament.
This was not a good night for Trump as all the credible polls and focus groups have confirmed. His bleak and dystopian view of America does not actually resonate with most people's lives and he came across as someone utterly unprepared for office.
Some of the more moronic posters on here made reference to Clinton's health in the run up to the debate - whether she would last 90 minutes etc.. In fact it was Trump with his constant sniffing, red eyes (the right one appeared to be closed for much of the time) and inability to articulate who looked ill and unfit. She remained bright focused and alert throughout, he appeared to struggle with words and attention. Which is not surprising given what we know about his totally unsuitable temperament.
JagLover said:
Nanook said:
BBC has Hilary winning it.
Make of that what you will.
Virtually all of the media have Hillary winning it and virtually all the online polls of actual voters have Trump winning it, make of that what you will.Make of that what you will.
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