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anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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unrepentant said:
Historic news.

USA Today has just endorsed Clinton.

They have never before in their history made an endorsement in a presidential election.

They did it because Trump is "unfit for the presidency".

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/09/29/d...
Vote Clinton cos Trump is a ? Can't fault the logic but I've heard more enthusiastic endorsements.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Wasn't it going to be the end of the world as we know it if Ronnie won all those years ago ???
he was just a ham actor and unfit to be POTUS...... Trump is just a businessman and .............?
at least with a career politican like clinton you know what you're going to get !!!!!!

Edited by powerstroke on Friday 30th September 07:49

hidetheelephants

24,269 posts

193 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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powerstroke said:
Wasn't it going to be the end of the world as we know it if Ronnie won all those years ago ???
I don't know about the end of the world but it did bring shady characters like Ed Meese to positions of power.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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powerstroke said:
Wasn't it going to be the end of the world as we know it if Ronnie won all those years ago ???
he was just a ham actor and unfit to be POTUS...... Trump is just a businessman and .............?
at least with a career politican like clinton you know what you're going to get !!!!!!

Edited by powerstroke on Friday 30th September 07:49
A scuffle in the Middle East?

spitsfire

1,035 posts

135 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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5ohmustang said:
paulguitar said:
5ohmustang said:
This is really fascinating to me, from a phycology standpoint. Do you really, honestly see it like this?
Facts are just that, facts. My opinion is irrelevant. Fact checking should be based on facts. Not propaganda nor journalists opinions.
And we know these are all facts because, well, it's text on a picture shared on bookface.

It's very obviously not propaganda or the ill-formed opinions of those with educational/intellectual limitations and a surplus of free time.

Countdown

39,842 posts

196 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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desolate said:
unrepentant said:
A rather long list...
yeah but apart from that?
hehe

5ohmustang

2,755 posts

115 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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unrepentant said:
5ohmustang said:
Facts are just that, facts. My opinion is irrelevant. Fact checking should be based on facts. Not propaganda nor journalists opinions.
You're not interested in facts Country and Western. You're like the other blinkered halfwits, you like Trump despite the facts because in him you can see your racism and prejudices reflected straight back at you.

You ignore the facts that disqualify Trump from any elected office let alone the highest. Here's just a few, all of which would individually disqualify him..

1. Trump U. A Ponzi scheme that ruined thousands of ordinary Americans and over which he's being sued by 3,500. In itself a disqualifier and something that will eventually ruin Trump financially.

2. He said he would force the military to commit war crimes.

3. Advocating the murder of terrorists families.

4. Advocating "punishing" women for having an abortion.

5. Mocking a reporters disability.

6. Scamming hundreds if not thousands of small businessmen out of their money by refusing to pay his bills, forcing many to go bust.

7. Disparaging a genuine war hero, John McCain, while himself being a cowardly draft dodger.

8. Refusing to release his tax returns (we all know why).

9. Perpetuating the birther myth about president Obama.

10. Claiming that an American born judge was unfit to judge him because of his Mexican heritage.

11. Falsely claiming to have seen "thousands" of Muslims celebrating after 9/11.

12. Misogyny (Too many cases to list)

13. Hired white supremacists to work on his campaign and failed until pushed to denounce David Duke (who he obviously admires).

14. Accused by his ex wife and the mother of his children of "violent rape".

15. Asked national security advisors why the US couldn't use its nuclear weapons.

16. Six times bankrupt.

17. Suggested that the "sacrifices" he made as a "businessman" were comparable to those of gold star parents.

18. Using Trump Foundation contributions to pay his own debts.

19. Claimed to see the nonexistent footage of cash airlifted to Iran.

20. Suggested that Ted Cruz's father was involved in assassinating JFK.

21. Suggesting that Muslims should be banned from entering the US.

Etc... There are literally hundreds more. The man is beyond the pale and unfit to run an ice cream stand let alone the US.
Prove each and every one of your claims.

mikal83

5,340 posts

252 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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5ohmustang said:
unrepentant said:
5ohmustang said:
Facts are just that, facts. My opinion is irrelevant. Fact checking should be based on facts. Not propaganda nor journalists opinions.
You're not interested in facts Country and Western. You're like the other blinkered halfwits, you like Trump despite the facts because in him you can see your racism and prejudices reflected straight back at you.

You ignore the facts that disqualify Trump from any elected office let alone the highest. Here's just a few, all of which would individually disqualify him..

1. Trump U. A Ponzi scheme that ruined thousands of ordinary Americans and over which he's being sued by 3,500. In itself a disqualifier and something that will eventually ruin Trump financially.

2. He said he would force the military to commit war crimes.

3. Advocating the murder of terrorists families.

4. Advocating "punishing" women for having an abortion.

5. Mocking a reporters disability.

6. Scamming hundreds if not thousands of small businessmen out of their money by refusing to pay his bills, forcing many to go bust.

7. Disparaging a genuine war hero, John McCain, while himself being a cowardly draft dodger.

8. Refusing to release his tax returns (we all know why).

9. Perpetuating the birther myth about president Obama.

10. Claiming that an American born judge was unfit to judge him because of his Mexican heritage.

11. Falsely claiming to have seen "thousands" of Muslims celebrating after 9/11.

12. Misogyny (Too many cases to list)

13. Hired white supremacists to work on his campaign and failed until pushed to denounce David Duke (who he obviously admires).

14. Accused by his ex wife and the mother of his children of "violent rape".

15. Asked national security advisors why the US couldn't use its nuclear weapons.

16. Six times bankrupt.

17. Suggested that the "sacrifices" he made as a "businessman" were comparable to those of gold star parents.

18. Using Trump Foundation contributions to pay his own debts.

19. Claimed to see the nonexistent footage of cash airlifted to Iran.

20. Suggested that Ted Cruz's father was involved in assassinating JFK.

21. Suggesting that Muslims should be banned from entering the US.

Etc... There are literally hundreds more. The man is beyond the pale and unfit to run an ice cream stand let alone the US.
Prove each and every one of your claims.
Prove theres no heaven.............jerk.

Esseesse

8,969 posts

208 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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If anyone wants to listen to a humorous debate review I highly recommend James Delingpole/Toby Young's podcast... https://ricochet.com/podcast/the-stepford-presiden...

rscott

14,740 posts

191 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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5ohmustang said:
unrepentant said:
5ohmustang said:
Facts are just that, facts. My opinion is irrelevant. Fact checking should be based on facts. Not propaganda nor journalists opinions.
You're not interested in facts Country and Western. You're like the other blinkered halfwits, you like Trump despite the facts because in him you can see your racism and prejudices reflected straight back at you.

You ignore the facts that disqualify Trump from any elected office let alone the highest. Here's just a few, all of which would individually disqualify him..

1. Trump U. A Ponzi scheme that ruined thousands of ordinary Americans and over which he's being sued by 3,500. In itself a disqualifier and something that will eventually ruin Trump financially.

2. He said he would force the military to commit war crimes.

3. Advocating the murder of terrorists families.

4. Advocating "punishing" women for having an abortion.

5. Mocking a reporters disability.

6. Scamming hundreds if not thousands of small businessmen out of their money by refusing to pay his bills, forcing many to go bust.

7. Disparaging a genuine war hero, John McCain, while himself being a cowardly draft dodger.

8. Refusing to release his tax returns (we all know why).

9. Perpetuating the birther myth about president Obama.

10. Claiming that an American born judge was unfit to judge him because of his Mexican heritage.

11. Falsely claiming to have seen "thousands" of Muslims celebrating after 9/11.

12. Misogyny (Too many cases to list)

13. Hired white supremacists to work on his campaign and failed until pushed to denounce David Duke (who he obviously admires).

14. Accused by his ex wife and the mother of his children of "violent rape".

15. Asked national security advisors why the US couldn't use its nuclear weapons.

16. Six times bankrupt.

17. Suggested that the "sacrifices" he made as a "businessman" were comparable to those of gold star parents.

18. Using Trump Foundation contributions to pay his own debts.

19. Claimed to see the nonexistent footage of cash airlifted to Iran.

20. Suggested that Ted Cruz's father was involved in assassinating JFK.

21. Suggesting that Muslims should be banned from entering the US.

Etc... There are literally hundreds more. The man is beyond the pale and unfit to run an ice cream stand let alone the US.
Prove each and every one of your claims.
After you, prove each and every one of your claims about Clinton.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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5ohmustang said:
Prove each and every one of your claims.
Why would you think he should have to do that?


babatunde

736 posts

190 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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anonymous said:
[redacted]
And most of above (2,3,4,5,7,8,9,10,1,12,13,15,17,19,20,21) are things he has actually said over the past year or so, but but Benghazi!!!

I've come to the sad realisation that anyone voting for trump is a mouth breather who would say and do the same things TRUMP does if given half a chance.

I mean would anyone of you get in a car on a crowded race track with a driver who has:
No experience of driving, but says I'm top class horse rider and the skills translate directly,
Says he doesn't need to learn as he is a natural and how hard can it be,
Calls all the other drivers idiots,
Tells you he will refuse to obey all rules and etiquette's on the track,


unrepentant

21,256 posts

256 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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powerstroke said:
Wasn't it going to be the end of the world as we know it if Ronnie won all those years ago ???
he was just a ham actor and unfit to be POTUS...... Trump is just a businessman and .............?
at least with a career politican like clinton you know what you're going to get !!!!!!
People keep quoting Reagan but its utterly spurious.

Reagan was a former 2 term governor of California, the biggest state in the US. He didn't just appear on the scene and run for President. He had a track record in government. I happen to think he was a pretty awful president but compared to Trump he was extremely well qualified.



stuckmojo

2,978 posts

188 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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babatunde said:
I mean would anyone of you get in a car on a crowded race track with a driver who has:
No experience of driving, but says I'm top class horse rider and the skills translate directly,
Says he doesn't need to learn as he is a natural and how hard can it be,
Calls all the other drivers idiots,
Tells you he will refuse to obey all rules and etiquette's on the track,
Probably not. But the other driver has a track record to make one shiver. Especially on little things of no significance like war and corporate cronyism.

There's so many people whose livelihood/career depends on a Clinton victory that I just can't see it not happening.

I am talking about media, lobbyists, foreign sponsors of dodgy background, weapons manufacturers, pharma companies, banks, universities, government bench warmers and so on.

Trump has to beat all this critical mass.

Still, I'm hedging my bets in case Tony Blair and Gordon Brown officially endorse her in public.

Countdown

39,842 posts

196 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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stuckmojo said:


There's so many people whose livelihood/career depends on a Clinton victory that I just can't see it not happening.

I am talking about media, lobbyists, foreign sponsors of dodgy background, weapons manufacturers, pharma companies, banks, universities, government bench warmers and so on.
Many of those would probably prosper more under a Trump regime.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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I think the more insightful Republicans can see they're setting themselves up for a long time out of office with the quality and appeal of they candidates they have managed to produce on the last three occasions.

Minorities make up a greater % than last time for eligible voters who overwhelmingly voted for the Democrats, and this isn't an area Trump will make any gains as he's managed to alienate them pretty effectively.




Countdown

39,842 posts

196 months

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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mikal83

5,340 posts

252 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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Pesty said:
Wow, so many.......

Vaud

50,445 posts

155 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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mikal83 said:
Pesty said:
Wow, so many.......
Well if they were certified brain dead then they were probably registered republicans/democrats/libertarians [delete as applicable to support your own agenda as appropriate]
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