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[AreOut]

durbster said:

What worries me most about Trump is the commentators from the middle east, or at least with experience of that area, who are saying what Trump is doing right now is exactly how people like Gadaffi came to power.

http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/donald-trump-...

Whether the United States political system is robust enough to prevent such a thing happening remains to be seen, but these people have seen this play before, and have experienced its devastating consequences. The American people really should be paying attention.

Lybia had her golden period under Gadaffi, kinda like US under Reagan (I'm talking economically).

[Halb]

9/10/16

watershed moment?

[Countdown]

Halb said:

watershed moment?

Unlikely. Apparently less than 12% of GOP voters think he should quit. His core vote isn't going to desert him.

[Halb]

Countdown said:

Unlikely. Apparently less than 12% of GOP voters think he should quit. His core vote isn't going to desert him.

Hmmm, senate race is solidifying.

[Countdown]

It's getting worse for Trump....

Tic-tac denounces Trump

[p1stonhead]

Halb said:

9/10/16

watershed moment?

From looking at that map, it seems all of the wealthy (and without assuming too much - the most educated?) parts of the US are voting Democrat. I thought Republicans catered much more to the rich and powerful in those sorts of locations and would have expected at least some of those areas to go Republican. Is he basically that hated that those who would normally go Republican, are going the other way?

[unrepentant]

p1stonhead said:

From looking at that map, it seems all of the wealthy (and without assuming too much - the most educated?) parts of the US are voting Democrat. I thought Republicans catered much more to the rich and powerful in those sorts of locations and would have expected at least some of those areas to go Republican. Is he basically that hated that those who would normally go Republican, are going the other way?

That's because you equate the republicans with the conservatives. They are nothing of the sort. The democrats line up between labour and the tories, a long way to the right of Corbyn's labour, right of Blair's, slightly to the left of May's tories but not by much. Many educated professionals vote democrat as they tend to vote tory in the UK. The republican vote comes mainly from the religious (Christian) right, uneducated whites and rural voters who value "God and guns" and who aren't too keen on brown people. Even in red states the cities and suburbs tend to be blue. Hence the GOP do well in SC, TN, AL etc.. the dems do well in NY, CA, IL, NJ, CT etc.. The difference this time is that there will be more blue on the map as some "safe" republican states will go to the dems in the wake of Trump's disastrous effort.

[p1stonhead]

unrepentant said:

p1stonhead said:

From looking at that map, it seems all of the wealthy (and without assuming too much - the most educated?) parts of the US are voting Democrat. I thought Republicans catered much more to the rich and powerful in those sorts of locations and would have expected at least some of those areas to go Republican. Is he basically that hated that those who would normally go Republican, are going the other way?

That's because you equate the republicans with the conservatives. They are nothing of the sort. The democrats line up between labour and the tories, a long way to the right of Corbyn's labour, right of Blair's, slightly to the left of May's tories but not by much. Many educated professionals vote democrat as they tend to vote tory in the UK. The republican vote comes mainly from the religious (Christian) right, uneducated whites and rural voters who value "God and guns" and who aren't too keen on brown people. Even in red states the cities and suburbs tend to be blue. Hence the GOP do well in SC, TN, AL etc.. the dems do well in NY, CA, IL, NJ, CT etc.. The difference this time is that there will be more blue on the map as some "safe" republican states will go to the dems in the wake of Trump's disastrous effort.

Consider me educated. Thanks

[anonymous-user]

Any price you like on DT now.
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us...

[AreOut]

he is still at solid 20%, that's far from being without chance

btw it seems Dan Bilzerian won't be president too

https://www.facebook.com/danbilzerianofficial/phot...

[Eric Mc]

A solid 20% - wow.

[scherzkeks]

unrepentant said:

scherzkeks said:

You do, but you also have a deeper spiritual and cultural center to fall back on as a society. We don't. We are a young country founded on the premise that you can get something for nothing.

Eh?

I'm beginning to think that you're either not American at all or you left here as an infant.

Something for nothing is much more of a European trait with a welfare system and cradle to grave safety nets. America has far more of an enterprise culture, very little safety net, zero workers protection, restricted unemployment benefits and no universal healthcare. Sit on your ass here and nobody gives you jack but hard work and enterprise are very well rewarded and it is far easier to make a good living here if you get stuck in.

Our society is built on hustling in the most unethical sense, which is what I mean by something for nothing. American prosperity historically has little to do with hard work. Hard work is for suckers. Like many immigrants, you take the national mythology literally.

[anonymous-user]

AreOut said:

he is still at solid 20%, that's far from being without chance

Somehow, I suspect that were he on 80%, he wouldn't be thinking "Damn, that woman is on a solid 20%. She's far from being without a chance of beating me".

He'd be thinking "Hmm. Day 1 in the Oval. Whose pussy should I grab first? Wow. There are a lot of decisions that come with being President. I wonder if Heff would like to be Chair of the Joint Chiefs".

[MrBrightSi]

Greg66 said:

AreOut said:

he is still at solid 20%, that's far from being without chance

Somehow, I suspect that were he on 80%, he wouldn't be thinking "Damn, that woman is on a solid 20%. She's far from being without a chance of beating me".

He'd be thinking "Hmm. Day 1 in the Oval. Whose pussy should I grab first? Wow. There are a lot of decisions that come with being President."

I can imagine most people want to grab pussy when they hit the oval office.

Look at bill clinton, that sick did that st all over the place and his wife covered his tracks if not tried to ruin the lives of the pussies that got grabbed.

[AreOut]

Eric Mc said:

A solid 20% - wow.

yupp, in these circumstances I'd say odds reflect reality and she is 4 times more likely to become president

we'll see what will happen at the debate tonight, it will certainly influence the odds

[anonymous-user]

MrBrightSi said:

I can imagine most people want to grab pussy when they hit the oval office.

Look at bill clinton, that sick did that st all over the place and his wife covered his tracks if not tried to ruin the lives of the pussies that got grabbed.

Great. "But Clinton". Brilliant.

I'll bet you were screaming like a spanked child when Clinton got caught with his pants down. And now you're all "ah, get over it. It's ok". Joker.

[rscott]

don4l said:

I'll have to admit defeat on the Trump voting issue.

So, it is Leftiesreality 1, don4l 0.

What I should have said is that Trump has a long record of speaking out against foreign intervention. Hilary Clinton has a long record of voting in favour of such interventions.

Fixed that for you.

Trump has a long record of changing his opinion on pretty much everything, foreign intervention is no exception. He supported action in Libya - http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements...

[Mr GrimNasty]

Jockman said:

It's getting harder to believe in a Trump Presidency.

HRC just has to keep her nose clean to win this one. Maybe Assange has something up his sleeve?

After Jo Cox I thought Brexit was finished. I got that one wrong.

There's plenty of vile speakings and writings from the Clintons' (far worse than Trumps locker room buffoonery), the press won't make an issue of them though, it's obvious there has been a massive mobilization to keep Trump out at any cost, because he isn't part of the one world socialist government order plan quietly being implemented.

That's why Brexit was seen as such a threat, absorbing the EU as a bloc after all individual national sovereignty has already been eroded would have been far easier, now the UK is not only an outlier but has reasserted national sovereignty.

[rscott]

Even the Deseret News ( 150 year old paper owned by the Mormons) is breaking an 80 year tradition to speak out against Trump.
It calls for him to step down immediately - http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865664336/In-ou...

Major Alabama news organisation says Trump shouldn't be president - http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/10/endors...

Edited by rscott on Monday 10th October 00:46

[5ohmustang]

Mr GrimNasty said:

Jockman said:

It's getting harder to believe in a Trump Presidency.

HRC just has to keep her nose clean to win this one. Maybe Assange has something up his sleeve?

After Jo Cox I thought Brexit was finished. I got that one wrong.

There's plenty of vile speakings and writings from the Clintons' (far worse than Trumps locker room buffoonery), the press won't make an issue of them though, it's obvious there has been a massive mobilization to keep Trump out at any cost, because he isn't part of the one world socialist government order plan quietly being implemented.

That's why Brexit was seen as such a threat, absorbing the EU as a bloc after all individual national sovereignty has already been eroded would have been far easier, now the UK is not only an outlier but has reasserted national sovereignty.

You hit the nail on the head. They can choose who ever they want in power. Their biggest fear is people waking up and "government" realizing nobody needs them.

Break a country with debt, step in with bail outs, taking said country's resources and wealth. There's no good guys anymore.