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[andy_s]

Hitler was a great orator.

[AreOut]

smn159 said:

It's the stupid gurning that he does that irritates me. Drawing his bouffant topped head back as if deep in intellectual torment before opening his implausibly shaped little mouth and revealing that he's absolutely clueless.

And the sniffing. Is he on drugs?

it's bad mic setup, he also gets too close to mic when talking but in the last debate he looked how H set her mic low and then he did the same it worked as sniffing was barely audible compared to first two debates

[unrepentant]

andy_s said:

Hitler was a great orator.

And Churchill.

And Enoch Powell, Ian McLeod, William Hague and Tony Benn. And Obama is probably the best of the recent politicians. Clinton is more in the mould of Thatcher, not a natural but understands the detail and nuance of the text and knows how to deliver it.

Then there's George W Bush and Spunkers.......

[andy_s]

unrepentant said:

andy_s said:

Hitler was a great orator.

And Churchill.

And Enoch Powell, Ian McLeod, William Hague and Tony Benn. And Obama is probably the best of the recent politicians. Clinton is more in the mould of Thatcher, not a natural but understands the detail and nuance of the text and knows how to deliver it.

Then there's George W Bush and Spunkers.......

Point being that just because someone is a good speaker, it doesn't make them the best candidate...necessarily.

[AreOut]

unrepentant said:

And Obama is probably the best of the recent politicians.

yeah, when his telemprompter is working

[unrepentant]

andy_s said:

unrepentant said:

andy_s said:

Hitler was a great orator.

And Churchill.

And Enoch Powell, Ian McLeod, William Hague and Tony Benn. And Obama is probably the best of the recent politicians. Clinton is more in the mould of Thatcher, not a natural but understands the detail and nuance of the text and knows how to deliver it.

Then there's George W Bush and Spunkers.......

Point being that just because someone is a good speaker, it doesn't make them the best candidate...necessarily.

No. you highlighted Hitler for some reason. I was pointing out that there are plenty of good orators. You seem to like Hitler, I'm less keen on him so I was offering some alternatives.

[Eric Mc]

unrepentant said:

And Churchill.

And Enoch Powell, Ian McLeod, William Hague and Tony Benn. And Obama is probably the best of the recent politicians. Clinton is more in the mould of Thatcher, not a natural but understands the detail and nuance of the text and knows how to deliver it.

Then there's George W Bush and Spunkers.......

Don't forget John F Kennedy in the list of great orators.

[anonymous-user]

Dr Martin Luther King JR has to be one of the greatest.

[Eric Mc]

jsf said:

Dr Martin Luther King JR has to be one of the greatest.

I was thinking along the lines of Presidents or presidential candidates.

A lot of credit has to go to the speech writers too. Kennedy had some great writers. I think all of Kennedy's speeches on the subject of America in space are some of the best speeches in history.

[andy_s]

unrepentant said:

No. you highlighted Hitler for some reason. I was pointing out that there are plenty of good orators. You seem to like Hitler, I'm less keen on him so I was offering some alternatives.

[Vaud]

AreOut said:

unrepentant said:

And Obama is probably the best of the recent politicians.

yeah, when his telemprompter is working

He's ok. He can be brilliant, but he can sound a bit "academic" at times. Still top tier though.

[Countdown]

andy_s said:

unrepentant said:

No. you highlighted Hitler for some reason. I was pointing out that there are plenty of good orators. You seem to like Hitler, I'm less keen on him so I was offering some alternatives.

Are you too at cross purposes?

Im guessing that comparing Spunky to Hitler wasn't meant as a compliment

[Halb]

The Rock is another great orator.

[cqueen]

Trump isn't perfect, but he's a lot smarter than people give him credit for.

Let's face it folks, the USA is financially f***ked. It requires MASSIVE change to avoid total collapse. Trump represents that change and it is the only chance the US has to pull itself back from the brink.

If Hillary wins? The Western world (as we know it) is over. I give it a couple of years.

[Halb]

Trump would increase spending on the military. If it's one thing the US needs, it's less money spent on their military.

[Countdown]

cqueen said:

Trump isn't perfect, but he's a lot smarter than people give him credit for.

Let's face it folks, the USA is financially f***ked. It requires MASSIVE change to avoid total collapse. Trump represents that change and it is the only chance the US has to pull itself back from the brink.

If Hillary wins? The Western world (as we know it) is over. I give it a couple of years.

It may be worthwhile to have a look at both the candidates fiscal policies.

Hilary's would add $200bn to the national debt.

Trump's would add $5.3 trillion. However he personally would benefit significantly from tax cuts.

The man's a devious lying premier league snake-oil selling fukcwit.

[5ohmustang]

cqueen said:

Trump isn't perfect, but he's a lot smarter than people give him credit for.

Let's face it folks, the USA is financially f***ked. It requires MASSIVE change to avoid total collapse. Trump represents that change and it is the only chance the US has to pull itself back from the brink.

If Hillary wins? The Western world (as we know it) is over. I give it a couple of years.

Totally agree. Clinton represents the same st. The globalists know the game is up, but with her, she will allow them to rape what's left of the system and keep it life support. The globalists will collapse the system as soon as Trump gets in and blame it on him.

I'd rather have a hard reset now than later when the bubble is even bigger. Either way, you need to build a financial wall around you and your family before the endgame is here.

[anonymous-user]

5ohmustang said:

Totally agree. Clinton represents the same st. The globalists know the game is up, but with her, she will allow them to rape what's left of the system and keep it life support. The globalists will collapse the system as soon as Trump gets in and blame it on him.

I'd rather have a hard reset now than later when the bubble is even bigger. Either way, you need to build a financial wall around you and your family before the endgame is here.

If its going to pan out the way you suggest, you need to build a log cabin in the Rockies and stock up on things that kill things. Money will be useless.

What the USA needs to do, is spend money on its infrastructure, that will put people back to work and make their economy more competitive. At the same time it needs to figure out how to retrain people in high tech industries as automation takes over. The USA is still a very hands on economy.

[5ohmustang]

Nigel Farage is a genius. This man should be primeminister. What a fresh change from the tweed jacketed, elbow patched, Rothschild worshipping, crooked MP.

https://youtu.be/EyL5w7MtrtY

[cqueen]

Countdown said:

Trump's would add $5.3 trillion.

That's assuming Trump makes no changes to the current system.