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WikiLeaks: Clinton Charity Took Millions from Moroccan King in Exchange for Appearance
WikiLeaks continues to release emails from the account of John Podesta, the chair of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. One set of emails revealed Hillary Clinton secured a $12 million donation to the Clinton Global Initiative in 2015 from the king of Morocco, on the condition that she speak at an event in Marrakesh. Bill and Chelsea Clinton ultimately spoke in Hillary Clinton’s place. The donation came as Clinton prepared to announce her candidacy. On Sunday, Clinton was asked whether the donation amounted to a "pay-to-play" scheme.
Hillary Clinton: "I have nothing to say about WikiLeaks other than I think we should all be concerned about what the Russians are trying to do to our election and using WikiLeaks very blatantly to try to influence the outcome of the election."
Remember when Assange was a hero for leaking the secrets of the Bush wars? Now he's trying to undermine elections alongside fellow Russian agent Jill Stein 
WikiLeaks continues to release emails from the account of John Podesta, the chair of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. One set of emails revealed Hillary Clinton secured a $12 million donation to the Clinton Global Initiative in 2015 from the king of Morocco, on the condition that she speak at an event in Marrakesh. Bill and Chelsea Clinton ultimately spoke in Hillary Clinton’s place. The donation came as Clinton prepared to announce her candidacy. On Sunday, Clinton was asked whether the donation amounted to a "pay-to-play" scheme.
Hillary Clinton: "I have nothing to say about WikiLeaks other than I think we should all be concerned about what the Russians are trying to do to our election and using WikiLeaks very blatantly to try to influence the outcome of the election."
Remember when Assange was a hero for leaking the secrets of the Bush wars? Now he's trying to undermine elections alongside fellow Russian agent Jill Stein rscott said:
AreOut said:
Northbloke said:
What sort of shenanigans are you expecting? The rigged voting stuff Trump is on about?
yupp, it's lot easier to rig voting in US than in UK, also check if your bet is who wins the elections or who becomes president because there is a chance he'll win but not be allowed to get into office...this or that wayP.S. I'd expect more dirty stuff about him to come out right before the elections, odds might surge a bit (to 8/1 10/1 etc.) however his chances will actually stay the same so it would be better value
Edited by AreOut on Tuesday 25th October 00:28
trump....I will accept the vote ....if I win! What a man.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/24/exclusi...
Daily Telegraph said:
Donald Trump’s presidential campaign is facing a fundraising scandal after a Telegraph investigation exposed how key supporters were prepared to accept illicit donations from foreign backers.
Senior figures involved with the Great America PAC, one of the leading "independent" groups organising television advertisements and grassroots support for the Republican nominee, sought to channel $2 million from a Chinese donor into the campaign to elect the billionaire despite laws prohibiting donations from foreigners.
In return, undercover reporters purporting to represent the fictitious donor were assured that he would obtain “influence” if Mr Trump made it to the White House.
Dodgy. Crooked. Corrupt.Senior figures involved with the Great America PAC, one of the leading "independent" groups organising television advertisements and grassroots support for the Republican nominee, sought to channel $2 million from a Chinese donor into the campaign to elect the billionaire despite laws prohibiting donations from foreigners.
In return, undercover reporters purporting to represent the fictitious donor were assured that he would obtain “influence” if Mr Trump made it to the White House.
amusingduck said:
WikiLeaks: Clinton Charity Took Millions from Moroccan King in Exchange for Appearance
WikiLeaks continues to release emails from the account of John Podesta, the chair of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. One set of emails revealed Hillary Clinton secured a $12 million donation to the Clinton Global Initiative in 2015 from the king of Morocco, on the condition that she speak at an event in Marrakesh. Bill and Chelsea Clinton ultimately spoke in Hillary Clinton’s place. The donation came as Clinton prepared to announce her candidacy. On Sunday, Clinton was asked whether the donation amounted to a "pay-to-play" scheme.
Hillary Clinton: "I have nothing to say about WikiLeaks other than I think we should all be concerned about what the Russians are trying to do to our election and using WikiLeaks very blatantly to try to influence the outcome of the election."
Remember when Assange was a hero for leaking the secrets of the Bush wars? Now he's trying to undermine elections alongside fellow Russian agent Jill Stein
It says a lot about the Dem candidate.WikiLeaks continues to release emails from the account of John Podesta, the chair of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. One set of emails revealed Hillary Clinton secured a $12 million donation to the Clinton Global Initiative in 2015 from the king of Morocco, on the condition that she speak at an event in Marrakesh. Bill and Chelsea Clinton ultimately spoke in Hillary Clinton’s place. The donation came as Clinton prepared to announce her candidacy. On Sunday, Clinton was asked whether the donation amounted to a "pay-to-play" scheme.
Hillary Clinton: "I have nothing to say about WikiLeaks other than I think we should all be concerned about what the Russians are trying to do to our election and using WikiLeaks very blatantly to try to influence the outcome of the election."
Remember when Assange was a hero for leaking the secrets of the Bush wars? Now he's trying to undermine elections alongside fellow Russian agent Jill Stein Lefty indies like me can't vote for her. The Russian distraction is invoked because HRC is guilty. How a rational invidual overlooks this, I will never understand.
scherzkeks said:
How a rational invidual overlooks this, I will never understand.
Once you dispel the notion that people act in any way rationally the world will start to make a lot more sense. It took me 40 years to realise that, probably due to being an "engineering" personality type for most of my life. Scott Adams is spot on.XM5ER said:
scherzkeks said:
How a rational invidual overlooks this, I will never understand.
Once you dispel the notion that people act in any way rationally the world will start to make a lot more sense. It took me 40 years to realise that, probably due to being an "engineering" personality type for most of my life. Scott Adams is spot on.The same Scott Adams who posed as a fan on Reddit & Metafilter to defend himself?
The same Scott Adams who said "The reality is that women are treated differently by society for exactly the same reason that children and the mentally handicapped are treated differently. It’s just easier this way for everyone. You don’t argue with a four-year old about why he shouldn’t eat candy for dinner. You don’t punch a mentally handicapped guy even if he punches you first. And you don’t argue when a women tells you she’s only making 80 cents to your dollar. It’s the path of least resistance. You save your energy for more important battles."
Yeah, sounds like someone you should trust & believe..
rscott said:
XM5ER said:
scherzkeks said:
How a rational invidual overlooks this, I will never understand.
Once you dispel the notion that people act in any way rationally the world will start to make a lot more sense. It took me 40 years to realise that, probably due to being an "engineering" personality type for most of my life. Scott Adams is spot on.The same Scott Adams who posed as a fan on Reddit & Metafilter to defend himself?
The same Scott Adams who said "The reality is that women are treated differently by society for exactly the same reason that children and the mentally handicapped are treated differently. It’s just easier this way for everyone. You don’t argue with a four-year old about why he shouldn’t eat candy for dinner. You don’t punch a mentally handicapped guy even if he punches you first. And you don’t argue when a women tells you she’s only making 80 cents to your dollar. It’s the path of least resistance. You save your energy for more important battles."
Yeah, sounds like someone you should trust & believe..
XM5ER said:
rscott said:
XM5ER said:
scherzkeks said:
How a rational invidual overlooks this, I will never understand.
Once you dispel the notion that people act in any way rationally the world will start to make a lot more sense. It took me 40 years to realise that, probably due to being an "engineering" personality type for most of my life. Scott Adams is spot on.The same Scott Adams who posed as a fan on Reddit & Metafilter to defend himself?
The same Scott Adams who said "The reality is that women are treated differently by society for exactly the same reason that children and the mentally handicapped are treated differently. It’s just easier this way for everyone. You don’t argue with a four-year old about why he shouldn’t eat candy for dinner. You don’t punch a mentally handicapped guy even if he punches you first. And you don’t argue when a women tells you she’s only making 80 cents to your dollar. It’s the path of least resistance. You save your energy for more important battles."
Yeah, sounds like someone you should trust & believe..
When I heard about this yesterday I thought of unrepentant. If anyone qualifies it must be him surely?
Madonna offers oral sex to Hillary Clinton supporters...
Madonna offers oral sex to Hillary Clinton supporters...
rscott said:
Probably because I'm fed up with the suggestion that Scott Adams is somehow the ultimate political commentator.
Fair enough. Fed up - emotional response. No, I was referring to his understanding of human behaviour and persuasion, on that he is on the money but only because he is following in some pretty big footsteps (like Cialdini mentioned above). This is an interesting article, ( http://the7triggers.com/why-donald-trump-is-so-per... ) written before the Clinton campaign really got into the whole very successful "dirty old man" persuasion tactic. I have a horrible feeling that they may have gone too early with this as people soon forget and justify (irrationally) why they don't care about that anyway.
boxxob said:
rscott said:
Probably because I'm fed up with the suggestion that Scott Adams is somehow the ultimate political commentator.
who suggested that, exactly?we all know that unrep (and their handler source) is the ultimate political commentator round these parts.
XM5ER said:
rscott said:
Probably because I'm fed up with the suggestion that Scott Adams is somehow the ultimate political commentator.
Fair enough. Fed up - emotional response. No, I was referring to his understanding of human behaviour and persuasion, on that he is on the money but only because he is following in some pretty big footsteps (like Cialdini mentioned above). This is an interesting article, ( http://the7triggers.com/why-donald-trump-is-so-per... ) written before the Clinton campaign really got into the whole very successful "dirty old man" persuasion tactic. I have a horrible feeling that they may have gone too early with this as people soon forget and justify (irrationally) why they don't care about that anyway.
Trump does like to threaten to sue people.. 22 threats and 2 actual lawsuits since he started his campaign - http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-22-times-t... .
rscott said:
You're suggesting Adams isn't even original in his comments, rather that he's just recycling someone else's work?
Not at all, that's your confirmation bias at work (you don't like him so you're looking for more reasons to dislike him, plagiarism being a reason). I am able to strip and rebuild most engines you care to mention, does that mean I am recycling the work of Haynes the publishers? Yes I used them extensively when I was a kid but I don't need them any more. Same here, Adams has read a lot on the psychology of persuasion, hypnosis and NLP and he is using that to illustrate a viewpoint he has on the US election. As an interesting side note, I read some of the articles about the sales techniques used the dubious Trump University course sales reps, it is pure-play emotional selling, exactly what Trump had been using to great effect in his campaign. That was, right up to the "dirty old man" obstacle, the question remains to be seen is whether this is the final obstacle in the "hero's journey" (google it) story that he has been telling throughout the campaign.
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