American Presidential candidates GoP/Dems

[schmunk]

5ohmustang said:

You're wasting your time with these sheeple. They're far too brainwashed to see the winds of change.

Oh dear lord, he's gone full tin-foil...

[unrepentant]

There was a huge study done by a professor at the Loyola Law School in LA that found that there were only 31 credible cases of voter fraud in over 1 billion votes cast between 2000 and 2014. It doesn't exist, you're statistically more likely to be struck by lightning than come across a case of voter fraud.

Idiots complain how terrible it is that the press is biased, "The press are against Trump". Well, I would hope so. Every right thinking person in the US is against Trump. And it's not just the press, it's all the talk show hosts, all the late night comedians, SNL!, all democrats and most leading republicans. How awful that all these people are against this sweet old misogynistic, racist, bullying sexual abuser.

I bet back in the 60's Peter Griffiths complained that it was unfair that the press were against him just because he campaigned under the slogan "If you want a N***** for a neighbor vote Labour". And I bet the 60's equivalent of Areout was supporting him.

Trump is beyond the pale, of course the press want him to lose!

[Vaud]

unrepentant said:

I bet back in the 60's Peter Griffiths complained that it was unfair that the press were against him just because he campaigned under the slogan "If you want a N***** for a neighbor vote Labour". And I bet the 60's equivalent of Areout was supporting him.

FYI, he didn't.

The phrase on a pamphlet was "If you desire a coloured for a neighbour, vote Labour"

It never appeared on any official Conservative Party publication. There are many suggestions that the pamphlet was produced by a far right group.

It should be noted, however, that he refused to disown the statement, saying "I should think that is a manifestation of popular feeling. I would not condemn anyone who said that."

End of fact check.

Edited by Vaud on Tuesday 25th October 18:34

[schmunk]

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Shut it, sheerson.

Edited by schmunk on Tuesday 25th October 18:36

[frankenstein12]

Vaud said:

unrepentant said:

I bet back in the 60's Peter Griffiths complained that it was unfair that the press were against him just because he campaigned under the slogan "If you want a N***** for a neighbor vote Labour". And I bet the 60's equivalent of Areout was supporting him.

FYI, he didn't.

The phrase on a pamphlet was "If you desire a coloured for a neighbour, vote Labour"

It never appeared on any official Conservative Party publication. There are many suggestions that the pamphlet was produced by a far right group.

It should be noted, however, that he refused to disown the statement, saying "I should think that is a manifestation of popular feeling. I would not condemn anyone who said that."

End of fact check.

Edited by Vaud on Tuesday 25th October 18:34

So saying he believes people are entitled to their opinions and beliefs whether right or wrong makes someone racist by extension?

The world has gone truly stupid

Edited by frankenstein12 on Tuesday 25th October 18:49

[Vaud]

frankenstein12 said:

So saying he believes people are entitled to their opinions and beliefs whether right or wrong someone racist.

The world has gone truly stupid

No idea. I'm not taking sides, just suggesting some other researched facts and opinion. I only know about this topic because it sprang up on my FB feed the other week.

[unrepentant]

Vaud said:

unrepentant said:

I bet back in the 60's Peter Griffiths complained that it was unfair that the press were against him just because he campaigned under the slogan "If you want a N***** for a neighbor vote Labour". And I bet the 60's equivalent of Areout was supporting him.

FYI, he didn't.

The phrase on a pamphlet was "If you desire a coloured for a neighbour, vote Labour"

It never appeared on any official Conservative Party publication. There are many suggestions that the pamphlet was produced by a far right group.

It should be noted, however, that he refused to disown the statement, saying "I should think that is a manifestation of popular feeling. I would not condemn anyone who said that."

End of fact check.

His Wiki page suggests otherwise and I have always been led to believe the wording as stated. My mother was a Tory councillor on the GLC at the time and has spoken of it to me in shocked terms. Anyway, whatever the exact wording was the sentiment is the same and one Trump would approve of.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Griffiths

[Vaud]

unrepentant said:

His Wiki page suggests otherwise and I have always been led to believe the wording as stated. My mother was a Tory councillor on the GLC at the time and has spoken of it to me in shocked terms. Anyway, whatever the exact wording was the sentiment is the same and one Trump would approve of.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Griffiths

[scherzkeks]

So, seems we now have proof the president lied about HRC's server.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-25/podesta-s...

Wikileaks strikes again. Engage Russian distraction now!

[Einion Yrth]

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"Portmanteaux" surely?

[Vaud]

Einion Yrth said:

Nanook said:

You Trump fans do love your portmanteaus, don't you!

"Portmanteaux" surely?

plural: portmanteaus or portmanteaux

[Einion Yrth]

Vaud said:

Einion Yrth said:

Nanook said:

You Trump fans do love your portmanteaus, don't you!

"Portmanteaux" surely?

portmanteaus

Looks wrong to me, although I know that once adopted into English any noun can be made plural by adding an "s". *shrug* just looks lazy and ill-educated, no biggie.

[mikal83]

5ohmustang said:

AreOut said:

not technically voting is rigged (yet), but there is media rigging, sending thugs to incite violence on his rallies etc. that makes elections completely unfair

You're wasting your time with these sheeple. They're far too brainwashed to see the winds of change.

baaaaaaaaa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJfPV7HU1IM

[unrepentant]

Vaud said:

unrepentant said:

His Wiki page suggests otherwise and I have always been led to believe the wording as stated. My mother was a Tory councillor on the GLC at the time and has spoken of it to me in shocked terms. Anyway, whatever the exact wording was the sentiment is the same and one Trump would approve of.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Griffiths

Haven't seen that before. Interesting that 60's British right wing morons were dredged from the ranks of the uneducated just like American ones today. The misspelling of burdened being an illustration of that.

[AreOut]

Some Gump said:

The media (generally people educated enough to read and write) all looking at what they see and almost unanimously spotting that Trump is a complete and utter bellend isn't the same thing as evidence of vote rigging. Maybe if more jouranlists were from Trump's core demographic (those unable to read and write, and or people who are married to a sibling) then it'd be more balanced.

nah, there is evidence of collusion on wikileaks never denied by DNC

the problem is that you and many others are too many into his personality when it's not about him but about the people he represents, and they are mad about what's happening with their country

rscott said:

How many times did they actually incite violence at his rallies?

why does it matter?!

smn159 said:

Don't forget the faked moon landings and the corrupt govt blowing up the twin towers themselves to justify starting a war (and incidentally, why wasn't Obama in the oval at the time - need to get to the bottom of that one)

Honestly, the MSM is so corrupt the only safe source is Infowars, right?

not having to do anything with each other, this is now well proven so don't try with "if you believe this you ceratinly must believe that" as it's completely irrelevant

the government corruption is well exposed and nobody who thinks with his own brain can deny that

[Einion Yrth]

unrepentant said:

Vaud said:

unrepentant said:

His Wiki page suggests otherwise and I have always been led to believe the wording as stated. My mother was a Tory councillor on the GLC at the time and has spoken of it to me in shocked terms. Anyway, whatever the exact wording was the sentiment is the same and one Trump would approve of.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Griffiths

Haven't seen that before. Interesting that 60's British right wing morons were dredged from the ranks of the uneducated just like American ones today. The misspelling of burdened being an illustration of that.

What do you know of the provenance of that leaflet? Without some background knowledge I don't know that it wasn't knocked up in photoshop by the OP 20 minutes ago.

[rscott]

AreOut said:

Some Gump said:

The media (generally people educated enough to read and write) all looking at what they see and almost unanimously spotting that Trump is a complete and utter bellend isn't the same thing as evidence of vote rigging. Maybe if more jouranlists were from Trump's core demographic (those unable to read and write, and or people who are married to a sibling) then it'd be more balanced.

nah, there is evidence of collusion on wikileaks never denied by DNC

the problem is that you and many others are too many into his personality when it's not about him but about the people he represents, and they are mad about what's happening with their country

rscott said:

How many times did they actually incite violence at his rallies?

why does it matter?!

smn159 said:

Don't forget the faked moon landings and the corrupt govt blowing up the twin towers themselves to justify starting a war (and incidentally, why wasn't Obama in the oval at the time - need to get to the bottom of that one)

Honestly, the MSM is so corrupt the only safe source is Infowars, right?

not having to do anything with each other, this is now well proven so don't try with "if you believe this you ceratinly must believe that" as it's completely irrelevant

the government corruption is well exposed and nobody who thinks with his own brain can deny that

I'd have thought the scale of the incitement for others to commit violence is highly relevant to the effect on the campaign.
Bear in mind they weren't actually proposing any illegal activity by the paid activists, only the prompting of Trump supporters into reacting violently. The proposal was along the lines of wearing 'Trump Sucks' shirts & the like.

[unrepentant]

Einion Yrth said:

unrepentant said:

Vaud said:

unrepentant said:

His Wiki page suggests otherwise and I have always been led to believe the wording as stated. My mother was a Tory councillor on the GLC at the time and has spoken of it to me in shocked terms. Anyway, whatever the exact wording was the sentiment is the same and one Trump would approve of.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Griffiths

Haven't seen that before. Interesting that 60's British right wing morons were dredged from the ranks of the uneducated just like American ones today. The misspelling of burdened being an illustration of that.

What do you know of the provenance of that leaflet? Without some background knowledge I don't know that it wasn't knocked up in photoshop by the OP 20 minutes ago.

I've never seen the leaflet before but I doubt that Vaud knocked it up for this thread! The case is very well known.

[Vaud]

Einion Yrth said:

What do you know of the provenance of that leaflet? Without some background knowledge I don't know that it wasn't knocked up in photoshop by the OP 20 minutes ago.

It's widely available and not disputed. I have no axe to grind on this subject. I'm not disputing the material was produced. Just the original source. I noted that the MP refused to distance himself from the sentiment. He may have been behind it and had it published by other means, I don't know. My point is that recent documentaries have questioned, with some reasonable evidence that it was never party material produced by the Tories at the time.

[Jasandjules]

SKP555 said:

We already know he's a racist sexual predator, Islamophobe and climate change denier who likes Putin. I think they've pretty much exhausted their tool kit. Mean to cats?

Thank goodness Bill Clinton is such a charmer with women eh?
http://www.albertpeia.com/oxfordassault.htm

Doesn't believe in Global Warming? Fingers crossed he gets in then.