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[230TE]

Pesty said:

That isn't a surprise he's a known left wing icon. However even a blind squirrel finds a nut from time to time and that piece is spot on imo.

I was surprised by the Moore video to put it mildly, but as usual it's not the whole story. The last bit of the speech has been edited out, the bit where he says that voting Trump will result in the appearance of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, so people shouldn't do it.

http://www.snopes.com/michael-moore-endorsed-donal...

It is however one of very few examples of a left-liberal actually showing some empathy with Trump voters, rather than dismissing them all as cross-burning incest-loving trailer trash, or "deplorables" if you're a well brought up little old lady from Arkansas. Given his own background that isn't surprising, but as a fierce critic of globalisation he's in an awkward position, since at least some of what Trump is saying is stuff he has been going on about for years without anyone in the Dems listening to him. All he can really say to his ex-neighbours in Michigan is "Vote Hillary, then at least you won't be disappointed when she doesn't do anything for you".

[scherzkeks]

230TE said:

I was surprised by the Moore video to put it mildly, but as usual it's not the whole story. The last bit of the speech has been edited out, the bit where he says that voting Trump will result in the appearance of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, so people shouldn't do it.

http://www.snopes.com/michael-moore-endorsed-donal...

It is however one of very few examples of a left-liberal actually showing some empathy with Trump voters, rather than dismissing them all as cross-burning incest-loving trailer trash, or "deplorables" if you're a well brought up little old lady from Arkansas. Given his own background that isn't surprising, but as a fierce critic of globalisation he's in an awkward position, since at least some of what Trump is saying is stuff he has been going on about for years without anyone in the Dems listening to him. All he can really say to his ex-neighbours in Michigan is "Vote Hillary, then at least you won't be disappointed when she doesn't do anything for you".

He's afraid to speak the unvarnished truth, which is not typical for Moore, but I can understand, since DT is not a candidate that is easy for an intelligent, compassionate person to support.

However, he is wrong -- and I think he knows it. Green Party candidate Jill Stein is braver, openly admitting that HRC will start a war with the Russians if she gets in.

[SystemParanoia]

Trump vs Hillary rap battle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbryz0mxuMY

[AW111]

scherzkeks said:

He's afraid to speak the unvarnished truth, which is not typical for Moore, but I can understand, since DT is not a candidate that is easy for an intelligent, compassionate person to support.

However, he is wrong -- and I think he knows it. Green Party candidate Jill Stein is braver, openly admitting that HRC will start a war with the Russians if she gets in.

So how do you get from "a 3rd party claimed that HRC will start a war" to "openly admitting that HRC will start a war" ?

Logic doesn't seem your strong suit.

[scherzkeks]

AW111 said:

So how do you get from "a 3rd party claimed that HRC will start a war" to "openly admitting that HRC will start a war" ?

Logic doesn't seem your strong suit.

She's already done so by declaring her support for a no-fly zone in Syria. Spin away, logic man.

[mikal83]

AW111 said:

scherzkeks said:

He's afraid to speak the unvarnished truth, which is not typical for Moore, but I can understand, since DT is not a candidate that is easy for an intelligent, compassionate person to support.

However, he is wrong -- and I think he knows it. Green Party candidate Jill Stein is braver, openly admitting that HRC will start a war with the Russians if she gets in.

So how do you get from "a 3rd party claimed that HRC will start a war" to "openly admitting that HRC will start a war" ?

Logic doesn't seem your strong suit.

It never has. As to starting a war, just goes to show that some watch too many Hollywood productions and have zero idea on events. He is a closet trump man.

[rscott]

230TE said:

Pesty said:

That isn't a surprise he's a known left wing icon. However even a blind squirrel finds a nut from time to time and that piece is spot on imo.

I was surprised by the Moore video to put it mildly, but as usual it's not the whole story. The last bit of the speech has been edited out, the bit where he says that voting Trump will result in the appearance of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, so people shouldn't do it.

http://www.snopes.com/michael-moore-endorsed-donal...

It is however one of very few examples of a left-liberal actually showing some empathy with Trump voters, rather than dismissing them all as cross-burning incest-loving trailer trash, or "deplorables" if you're a well brought up little old lady from Arkansas. Given his own background that isn't surprising, but as a fierce critic of globalisation he's in an awkward position, since at least some of what Trump is saying is stuff he has been going on about for years without anyone in the Dems listening to him. All he can really say to his ex-neighbours in Michigan is "Vote Hillary, then at least you won't be disappointed when she doesn't do anything for you".

Not another misleadingly edited video in support of Trump? I thought that was Project Veritas' speciality..

[Petrus1983]

Countdown said:

rohrl said:

How is Trump's ethnic minority outreach programme going? Ah.

She self-identifies as black.

[scherzkeks]

mikal83 said:

He is a closet trump man.

Whatever helps you deal.

Let me know when you uncover evidence that Jill Stein and Julian Assange are "Russian agents" as your candidate's campaign has suggested.

[Pesty]

189k too many voters registered in Rhode Island.

I didn't realise until recently how important these things are but due to the college system it causes a dopproportionate effect.

The us needs the UN mission itoring this election it's like a banana republic.


http://www.providencejournal.com/news/20161025/vot...

Edited by Pesty on Thursday 27th October 10:52

[mikal83]

scherzkeks said:

mikal83 said:

He is a closet trump man.

Whatever helps you deal.

Let me know when you uncover evidence that Jill Stein and Julian Assange are "Russian agents" as your candidate's campaign has suggested.

Birds of a feather.....trump and assange. Nobody has more respect for women than these too eh!

[rscott]

Pesty said:

189k too many voters registered in Rhode Island.

I didn't realise until recently how important these things are but die the the college system it causes a dopproportionate effect.

The us needs the UN mission itoring this election it's like a banana republic.


http://www.providencejournal.com/news/20161025/vot...

Wonder how many are those who've registered to vote at two different addresses. Just like Trump's campaign chief has done - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/26/st... .

[IroningMan]

Raised a smile...

Swivel-eyed loon?

[dudleybloke]

IroningMan said:

Raised a smile...

Swivel-eyed loon?

[Some Gump]

scherzkeks said:

Whatever helps you deal.

Let me know when you uncover evidence that Jill Stein and Julian Assange are "Russian agents" as your candidate's campaign has suggested.

Why do trumpeteers think that really disliking him and liking Clinton is one and the same?

As South PArk so eloquently puts it, you've got the choice of a giant douche and a turd sandwich. Picking the lesser of to evils is not the same as supporting / liking / defending Clinton.

[Countdown]

Boring_Chris said:

Again, this forum excelling itself.

"It'll be funny if Trump wins"

Because normalising the hate filled rhetoric he's built his campaign on is FUNNY?!

Enabling the far Right nut jobs of this world is a funny thing?! Normalising hate speech is amusing?!

fk off.

It's safer to say "It'll be funny if Trump wins" than saying "I'm a hate-filled right-wing nutjob who would love it if Trump wins because he hates Mexicans and Muslims and that's actually all I'm bothered about".

[amusingduck]

Some Gump said:

scherzkeks said:

Whatever helps you deal.

Let me know when you uncover evidence that Jill Stein and Julian Assange are "Russian agents" as your candidate's campaign has suggested.

Why do trumpeteers think that really disliking him and liking Clinton is one and the same?

As South PArk so eloquently puts it, you've got the choice of a giant douche and a turd sandwich. Picking the lesser of to evils is not the same as supporting / liking / defending Clinton.

You've just criticised scherzkeks for equating anti-Trump with pro-Hillary (though mikal is more pro-Hillary than most on here, IIRC) , and then followed up by equating scherzkeks' being anti-Hillary as being a "trumpeteer".

[Halb]

https://ihavethetruth.com/2016/08/18/texas-secede-...

[5ohmustang]

230TE said:

I was surprised by the Moore video to put it mildly, but as usual it's not the whole story. The last bit of the speech has been edited out, the bit where he says that voting Trump will result in the appearance of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, so people shouldn't do it.

http://www.snopes.com/michael-moore-endorsed-donal...

It is however one of very few examples of a left-liberal actually showing some empathy with Trump voters, rather than dismissing them all as cross-burning incest-loving trailer trash, or "deplorables" if you're a well brought up little old lady from Arkansas. Given his own background that isn't surprising, but as a fierce critic of globalisation he's in an awkward position, since at least some of what Trump is saying is stuff he has been going on about for years without anyone in the Dems listening to him. All he can really say to his ex-neighbours in Michigan is "Vote Hillary, then at least you won't be disappointed when she doesn't do anything for you".

Snopes, a cat woman and her husband in an apartment, a brilliant unbiased source.

I guess you did'nt get the memo.

[rscott]

5ohmustang said:

230TE said:

I was surprised by the Moore video to put it mildly, but as usual it's not the whole story. The last bit of the speech has been edited out, the bit where he says that voting Trump will result in the appearance of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, so people shouldn't do it.

http://www.snopes.com/michael-moore-endorsed-donal...

It is however one of very few examples of a left-liberal actually showing some empathy with Trump voters, rather than dismissing them all as cross-burning incest-loving trailer trash, or "deplorables" if you're a well brought up little old lady from Arkansas. Given his own background that isn't surprising, but as a fierce critic of globalisation he's in an awkward position, since at least some of what Trump is saying is stuff he has been going on about for years without anyone in the Dems listening to him. All he can really say to his ex-neighbours in Michigan is "Vote Hillary, then at least you won't be disappointed when she doesn't do anything for you".

Snopes, a cat woman and her husband in an apartment, a brilliant unbiased source.

I guess you did'nt get the memo.

Have you watched Trumpland yet? That's where the edited video of Moore came from. Something accurately reported by Snopes and many, many other sites.

Or would you prefer the man's own words:-


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