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cqueen said:
Ok if you want to split hairs about US/U.K. Equivilants, just google the USA national debt. I can't be arsed to get into internet tit for tat.
Ok. It's pretty bad and not surprising given how much the US spends on military. However have you read Spunky's economic proposals? He's going to cut taxes mainly for the wealthy and increase spending to the extent that the US national debt is going to increase by several trillion. He makes Corbyn look like Scrooge.This is just one of the reasons why so many GOP politicians detest him. They KNOW he's lying through his back teeth and that, IF he gets in and IF he manages to implement any of his policies, he's going to f'k up the economy beyond all belief.
Not to worry though, he will keep on spouting the same bo11ox that has got him so far and morons will carry on believing him.
AW111 said:
5ohmustang said:
Google Democrat voter fraud, the list is endless. Ignorance is bliss.
No wonder you're so happy!
The thing is, he's NOT happy. He's miserable. Probably no job, or minimum wage, probably limited education, and full of bitterness and envy because others have a bigger house, a better car, and a prettier wife. And along comes Trump, to play him and his mates like a banjo, reassuring him that it's not HIS fault. It's IMMIGRANTS. It's Mexicans, Muslims, Chinese, who are taking his jobs etc etc. and giving him a nice warm fuzzy feeling.
The gullible plank doesn't realise that Trump doesn't give a flying f'k about him. if he read up about Kitlery's background he'd realise that her and Bill have done far more for poor people in America than Trump ever has. But doesn't matter... IMMIGRANTS !!
5ohmustang said:
I think he will win the popular and electoral college vote. Everywhere I have been I see massive support for Trump. In 2016, I've met 1 person who said they will vote for her, 1 bumper sticker, about 5 yard signs, that's it for Hitlerly.
I can't begin to say or count the Trump support. Serious vote rigging will be needed for Trump to lose.
The trouble is, unless you've traveled the length and bredth (sp) of the country, its not really a true measure of anything.I can't begin to say or count the Trump support. Serious vote rigging will be needed for Trump to lose.
we've just had a mayoral vote here and the only signs for Mayor I saw was for 1 person, yet someone else became Mayor.
rscott said:
Why don't you explain what's wrong with the article?
Far as I can tell, they're basically saying that the only servers regularly looking up trump-email.com DNS records were those belonging to a Russian bank. There was a disproportionate amount of traffic from those hosts.
Oddly enough, once the story became public, a new domain was registered, using the same host and the same Russian servers started trying to resolve it.
I'd be inclined to think the story deserves further investigation, especially given that Paul Vixie seems to find it believable.
so how is that proof of "secret communication"?! not to mention all other illogical stuffFar as I can tell, they're basically saying that the only servers regularly looking up trump-email.com DNS records were those belonging to a Russian bank. There was a disproportionate amount of traffic from those hosts.
Oddly enough, once the story became public, a new domain was registered, using the same host and the same Russian servers started trying to resolve it.
I'd be inclined to think the story deserves further investigation, especially given that Paul Vixie seems to find it believable.
anyway :
Hope Hicks:
“First of all, it’s not a secret server,” said Trump campaign press secretary Hope Hicks. “The email server, set up for marketing purposes and operated by a third-party, has not been used since 2010. The current traffic on the server from Alphabank’s [sic] IP address is regular DNS server traffic – not email traffic.”
“To be clear, The Trump Organization is not sending or receiving any communications from this email server,” Hicks continued. “The Trump Organization has no communication or relationship with this entity or any Russian entity.”
Edited by AreOut on Tuesday 1st November 08:01
U.S. Officials Doubt Donald Trump Has Direct Link to Russia
http://archive.is/Gyf2m#selection-2059.0-2067.308
What media collusion
http://archive.is/Gyf2m#selection-2059.0-2067.308
NYT said:
WASHINGTON — For much of the summer, the F.B.I. pursued a widening investigation into a Russian role in the American presidential campaign. Agents scrutinized advisers close to Donald J. Trump, looked for financial connections with Russian financial figures, searched for those involved in hacking the computers of Democrats, and even chased a lead — which they ultimately came to doubt — about a possible secret channel of email communication from the Trump Organization to a Russian bank.
Law enforcement officials say that none of the investigations so far have found any link between Mr. Trump and the Russian government. And even the hacking into Democratic emails, F.B.I. and intelligence officials now believe, was aimed at disrupting the presidential election rather than electing Mr. Trump.
STUDY: Big Three Networks Attack Comey Over Clinton by 3 to 1Law enforcement officials say that none of the investigations so far have found any link between Mr. Trump and the Russian government. And even the hacking into Democratic emails, F.B.I. and intelligence officials now believe, was aimed at disrupting the presidential election rather than electing Mr. Trump.
MRC said:
Beginning with the evening (October 28) of the announcement through Monday morning (October 31) MRC analysts reviewed all statements (by reporters, analysts, and partisans) that took a position on Comey and Clinton and found arguments against Comey (88) swamped those against Clinton (31) by a ratio of almost 3 to 1. There were a handful of statements that praised either Comey (10) or Clinton (4)
http://archive.is/jrugc#selection-623.0-635.83What media collusion
AreOut said:
so how is that proof of "secret communication"?! not to mention all other illogical stuff
anyway :
Hope Hicks:
“First of all, it’s not a secret server,” said Trump campaign press secretary Hope Hicks. “The email server, set up for marketing purposes and operated by a third-party, has not been used since 2010. The current traffic on the server from Alphabank’s [sic] IP address is regular DNS server traffic – not email traffic.”
“To be clear, The Trump Organization is not sending or receiving any communications from this email server,” Hicks continued. “The Trump Organization has no communication or relationship with this entity or any Russian entity.”
Given Trump's record of lying whenever he opens his mouth, I don't find that totally convincing - if the "Trump Organisation" has nothing to do with this server, who does own/use trump-email.com?anyway :
Hope Hicks:
“First of all, it’s not a secret server,” said Trump campaign press secretary Hope Hicks. “The email server, set up for marketing purposes and operated by a third-party, has not been used since 2010. The current traffic on the server from Alphabank’s [sic] IP address is regular DNS server traffic – not email traffic.”
“To be clear, The Trump Organization is not sending or receiving any communications from this email server,” Hicks continued. “The Trump Organization has no communication or relationship with this entity or any Russian entity.”
Edited by AreOut on Tuesday 1st November 08:01
unrepentant said:
5ohmustang said:
Katie Hopkins. AreOut said:
rscott said:
Why don't you explain what's wrong with the article?
Far as I can tell, they're basically saying that the only servers regularly looking up trump-email.com DNS records were those belonging to a Russian bank. There was a disproportionate amount of traffic from those hosts.
Oddly enough, once the story became public, a new domain was registered, using the same host and the same Russian servers started trying to resolve it.
I'd be inclined to think the story deserves further investigation, especially given that Paul Vixie seems to find it believable.
so how is that proof of "secret communication"?! not to mention all other illogical stuffFar as I can tell, they're basically saying that the only servers regularly looking up trump-email.com DNS records were those belonging to a Russian bank. There was a disproportionate amount of traffic from those hosts.
Oddly enough, once the story became public, a new domain was registered, using the same host and the same Russian servers started trying to resolve it.
I'd be inclined to think the story deserves further investigation, especially given that Paul Vixie seems to find it believable.
anyway :
Hope Hicks:
“First of all, it’s not a secret server,” said Trump campaign press secretary Hope Hicks. “The email server, set up for marketing purposes and operated by a third-party, has not been used since 2010. The current traffic on the server from Alphabank’s [sic] IP address is regular DNS server traffic – not email traffic.”
“To be clear, The Trump Organization is not sending or receiving any communications from this email server,” Hicks continued. “The Trump Organization has no communication or relationship with this entity or any Russian entity.”
Edited by AreOut on Tuesday 1st November 08:01
Also doesn't explain why it started using the new domain shortly after the story went public.
I never claimed it was proof - that's an assumption you made. I suggested it needed further investigation to see if there's any truth to the story.
cqueen said:
Countdown said:
What problems is the west facing?
Seriously? Where the heck do you start?! Western economies running seriously high debt whilst a high % the population struggles to achieve basic living. Young people having no chance of buying a house, Students leaving uni with huge debt then can't get a job. NHS up s
t creek without a paddle. Jeez I could go on all night. This analysis is 4 years old - but still pretty relevant and on the money. If you think Trump (or Clinton) will or can do anything to solve the wage disparity issue, you're going to be disappointed.
http://www.consultancy.nl/media/PA%20-%20The%20Con...
Assistant AG Peter Kadzik, who is now in charge of Email investigation, asked to work for Clinton Campaign in 2015 
WL said:
I have always aspired to work on a presidential campaign, and have been
> waiting for some time now for Hilary to announce so that I can finally make
> this aspiration a reality.
https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/30970> waiting for some time now for Hilary to announce so that I can finally make
> this aspiration a reality.
amusingduck said:
Assistant AG Peter Kadzik, who is now in charge of Email investigation, asked to work for Clinton Campaign in 2015
You'd have thought he could have spelled her name right, if so.WL said:
I have always aspired to work on a presidential campaign, and have been
> waiting for some time now for Hilary to announce so that I can finally make
> this aspiration a reality.
https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/30970> waiting for some time now for Hilary to announce so that I can finally make
> this aspiration a reality.
Einion Yrth said:
amusingduck said:
Assistant AG Peter Kadzik, who is now in charge of Email investigation, asked to work for Clinton Campaign in 2015
You'd have thought he could have spelled her name right, if so.WL said:
I have always aspired to work on a presidential campaign, and have been
> waiting for some time now for Hilary to announce so that I can finally make
> this aspiration a reality.
> waiting for some time now for Hilary to announce so that I can finally make
> this aspiration a reality.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/31469
mikal83 said:
And there you have it folks. "He's going to win 100%", but if he doesn't its rigged?
Symptomatic of Trump's modus operandi.If the judge rules against him in the fraud case it's because the Judge is "mexican". if he doesn't then it's despite the fact that he's mexican.
Trump lies so much that people have given up challenging him on it. But let's not forget some emails....
Countdown said:
mikal83 said:
And there you have it folks. "He's going to win 100%", but if he doesn't its rigged?
Symptomatic of Trump's modus operandi.If the judge rules against him in the fraud case it's because the Judge is "mexican". if he doesn't then it's despite the fact that he's mexican.
Trump lies so much that people have given up challenging him on it. But let's not forget some emails....
CNN drops Donna Brazile after Wikileaks reveals her feeding debate questions to HRC
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/cnn...
I love that after the DNC leaks, where Chairwoman Debbie Wassermann Schultz and other key members resigned, Donna was appointed interim Chair of the DNC. She, unsurprisingly, is more of the same, and gets dropped by CNN
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/cnn...
I love that after the DNC leaks, where Chairwoman Debbie Wassermann Schultz and other key members resigned, Donna was appointed interim Chair of the DNC. She, unsurprisingly, is more of the same, and gets dropped by CNN
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