UKIP First 100 Days WTF!!!

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carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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jurbie said:
Except of course this is Channel 4 so the windmills will be providing for all our energy needs, Natalie Bennett will lead the world to a binding climate agreement, the polar bears will be saved, everyone will be happy with a zero growth economy and all the migrants from the open border policy will be welcomed into our homes almost like returning long lost family.
There was an informal chat over lunch with Natalie Bennett piece on Radio 4 a week or so ago. She came across less whining than usual I thought. Seems her anti-car agenda relates to her mother dying in a car crash. That reminded me of Ari Vatanen's experience as a kid.

It's a shame she doesn't use her experience of mother's death in a car crash to help improve driving standards.


Regarding this Channel 4 commission, they also had a play on Radio 4 about political wrangling when a UKIP Minister gets in and closing the border with Northern Ireland as immigrants are coming in through there. I didn't listen, but another piece of drama painting a scenario of what could happen for a UKIP Minister.

dandarez

13,282 posts

283 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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The director of this rubbish Chris Atkins, has a twitter account.

https://twitter.com/scatatkins

Just read those ramblings... unbelievable rubbish. He thinks he's a Spielberg or an Attenborough.
Role on his court appearance. Where on earth do this non-people who think they are someone come from?

///ajd

8,964 posts

206 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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egor110 said:
///ajd said:
Not sure what the fuss is, it all seems quite plausible.

Careful what you vote for!
So when's Labour first 100 days being shown ?
Don't know, but it would probably not be as 'exciting'. I don't think any Labour MPs have talked about deporting existing immigrants if they get into power...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/roch...



dandarez

13,282 posts

283 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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It gets funnier (well, not really)

...the idiot Atkins (director) filmed a mock far right rally ...which includes a 'Help For Heroes' flag!

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

This is not going the way god(C4) planned it. hehe

PorkInsider

5,888 posts

141 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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They could have done Labour instead.

Maybe following Miliband and Balls around as they went from one public finance calamity to another, perhaps with the Benny Hill theme tune overlayed?



Edited by PorkInsider on Monday 16th February 23:28

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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Someone should Tweet him asking if Channel 4 will do a drama based on Common Purpose role in the Rotherham child abuse cover up?

TankRizzo

7,268 posts

193 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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I am not a 'Kipper but I cannot see how this is permitted. Can we all just make up lies on TV before a GE about any party now?

rpguk

4,465 posts

284 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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The 'New Statesman' was on London Live last night about a certain Alan B'stard. Was this much different?

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

262 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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///ajd said:
egor110 said:
///ajd said:
Not sure what the fuss is, it all seems quite plausible.

Careful what you vote for!
So when's Labour first 100 days being shown ?
Don't know, but it would probably not be as 'exciting'. I don't think any Labour MPs have talked about deporting existing immigrants if they get into power...
But, once again, he didn't say ^^that^^ did he.

Murph7355

37,708 posts

256 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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TankRizzo said:
I am not a 'Kipper but I cannot see how this is permitted. Can we all just make up lies on TV before a GE about any party now?
+1

Very surprised this was allowed at all, and especially in the run up to an election.

Esseesse

8,969 posts

208 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Murph7355 said:
+1

Very surprised this was allowed at all, and especially in the run up to an election.
Ofcom only do things retrospectively I think.

ClaphamGT3

11,300 posts

243 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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The inability of kippers to see this for the piece of light entertainment that it was only underscores their rather paranoid lack of judgement and perspective

Real political parties deal with this sort of satire all the time without whipping themselves into a frenzy and suggesting legal action; it's rather telling that the Kippers can't manage that....

Digga

40,316 posts

283 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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I don't think the reasonable bounds of satire extend to putting words into proponent's mouths that were never actually said. The instant you do that, the piece becomes propaganda (of the worst sort - served up as 'fact').

Esseesse

8,969 posts

208 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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ClaphamGT3 said:
The inability of kippers to see this for the piece of light entertainment that it was only underscores their rather paranoid lack of judgement and perspective

Real political parties deal with this sort of satire all the time without whipping themselves into a frenzy and suggesting legal action; it's rather telling that the Kippers can't manage that....
You made this post in another thread... anyhow. Derision of this program has come from people of all political persuasions. Can you point me to something of similar nature about the Conservatives, Labour or Lib Dems?

The problem was it was not presented as light entertainment. If it was (spitting image) then artistic license is ok and expected, if it is not then a reasonably firm grounding in reality is required.

Baryonyx

17,996 posts

159 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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I can only imagine that some factions in the UK are very scared of UKIP, if this is what they are resorting to. Yes, it's a frivolous and silly thing to watch, but someone must be scared of UKIP if this is what how they're tackling it!

LucreLout

908 posts

118 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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TankRizzo said:
Can we all just make up lies on TV before a GE about any party now?
Well, yes, how else do you think labour will get any votes?

Lets imagine they had to make three honest statements rather than tell lies... All they'd have is:
Yep, we fked the economy for everyone and it'll take two more generations before it gets better.
Yep, we fked the country with rampant unchecked open door immigration. (I believe immigration can be good and is on the whole positive but we had too many come too fast and nobody is integrated).
Our only policy is to buy votes from our client state of public sector staff, unionised morons, and the workshy benefits brigade.

Doesn't make for nearly such an appealing campaign as banging on about bankers, tories, tax evasion etc.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Esseesse said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
The inability of kippers to see this for the piece of light entertainment that it was only underscores their rather paranoid lack of judgement and perspective

Real political parties deal with this sort of satire all the time without whipping themselves into a frenzy and suggesting legal action; it's rather telling that the Kippers can't manage that....
You made this post in another thread... anyhow. Derision of this program has come from people of all political persuasions. Can you point me to something of similar nature about the Conservatives, Labour or Lib Dems?

The problem was it was not presented as light entertainment. If it was (spitting image) then artistic license is ok and expected, if it is not then a reasonably firm grounding in reality is required.
exactly, much as New Statesman was at the time, it was FUNNY, ie, it was comedy (Rik Mayall RIP).

it was far from a poorly done mashup broadcast in the run-up to a GE.

Murph7355

37,708 posts

256 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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ClaphamGT3 said:
The inability of kippers to see this for the piece of light entertainment that it was only underscores their rather paranoid lack of judgement and perspective

Real political parties deal with this sort of satire all the time without whipping themselves into a frenzy and suggesting legal action; it's rather telling that the Kippers can't manage that....
Have never voted UKIP and am unlikely to... But this wasn't presented as satire. If it had been, potentially fair enough IF there was an equal programme with a similar angle (one imagines looking for the worst outcomes of a set of decisions) on each of the other parties...

The timing of it struck me as particularly odd though. Great for getting comment and chat going (which I suppose is the media's sole purpose for being), not so great in terms of the great unwashed who struggle to tell things like TOWIE from real life.

jogon

2,971 posts

158 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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ClaphamGT3 said:
The inability of kippers to see this for the piece of light entertainment that it was only underscores their rather paranoid lack of judgement and perspective

Real political parties deal with this sort of satire all the time without whipping themselves into a frenzy and suggesting legal action; it's rather telling that the Kippers can't manage that....
I suppose we can look forward to 17 year of Labour in Rotherham and 50 years of Conservatives in Child care homes in the coming weeks on C4 - although they wouldn't be a fictional documentary.

ClaphamGT3

11,300 posts

243 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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jogon said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
The inability of kippers to see this for the piece of light entertainment that it was only underscores their rather paranoid lack of judgement and perspective

Real political parties deal with this sort of satire all the time without whipping themselves into a frenzy and suggesting legal action; it's rather telling that the Kippers can't manage that....
I suppose we can look forward to 17 year of Labour in Rotherham and 50 years of Conservatives in Child care homes in the coming weeks on C4 - although they wouldn't be a fictional documentary.
And if that raised awareness of these issues and the failings and weaknesses of those parties, then that is a good thing