UKIP First 100 Days WTF!!!

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mcgandalf

657 posts

156 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Watching it now - am a die-hard Tory, but I have 3 months to reconsider this. If anything this will further endear Nigel to me.

Adrian W

13,878 posts

229 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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egor110 said:
So when's Labour first 100 days being shown ?
We've already seen the Tory's first thousand days, and what a fk up they've made of it

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

160 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Adrian W said:
We've already seen the Tory's first thousand days, and what a fk up they've made of it
For balance - I will leave this here.


FredClogs

14,041 posts

162 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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mcgandalf said:
Watching it now - am a die-hard Tory, but I have 3 months to reconsider this. If anything this will further endear Nigel to me.
I don't get this, please indulge me, I understand it was terrible TV, factually dubious and possibly political motivated.. But, why would this program further endear you to Nigel and promote you to vote UKIP? I don't understand.

mcgandalf

657 posts

156 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Adrian W said:
We've already seen the Tory's first thousand days, and what a fk up they've made of it
  • Tories'. banghead
They have saved this nation from financial ruin. A Conservative majority will finish dragging us out of the pit of near-bankruptcy that Messrs Blair and Brown left for us. A Conservative majority with UKIP MPs invited to participate in government will deliver us Churchillian broad sunlit upland.

Esseesse

8,969 posts

209 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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mcgandalf said:
Watching it now - am a die-hard Tory, but I have 3 months to reconsider this. If anything this will further endear Nigel to me.
Are you a die-hard Tory or a die-hard conservative? If it's the latter then IMO your best course of action is not to vote Tory.

Megaflow

9,438 posts

226 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Troubleatmill said:
Adrian W said:
We've already seen the Tory's first thousand days, and what a fk up they've made of it
For balance - I will leave this here.
Kindly stop bringing facts and data to a leftie bhing session please.

wink

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

160 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Megaflow said:
Kindly stop bringing facts and data to a leftie bhing session please.

wink
And if you think Gordon was an economic genius......
You may recall that he said for at least the first two years New Labour takes over - there will be no change to Ken Clarke's spending plans.

"He became notorious during Labour's first two years in office for sticking to Conservative spending plans."
Source: http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/mar/06/budget20...

"This strategy was built on in January 1997 when shadow chancellor Gordon Brown accepted Tory spending plans for Labour's first two years in office - should the party be elected."
Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/b...

And not forgetting all the gold he sold for Euro's in 1999 (at rock bottom prices) giving him a surplus.

Let's see that chart again - and remind ourselves of just how wonderful Labour was with our credit cards.



Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

160 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Oh.. and to try to bring this back on topic.

The TV program was dire. If you haven't seen it - save an hour of your life and do something else.

Eclassy

1,201 posts

123 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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I liked it. Very interesting. UKIP probably wont get any more tham the 2 stolen seats they have now but I dont think it is far from what would happen if we got a UKIP government.

How else would they send all ethniks back to the motherland? By stopping every wrong shade person on the street of course.

egor110

16,878 posts

204 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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LucreLout said:
Well, yes, how else do you think labour will get any votes?

Lets imagine they had to make three honest statements rather than tell lies... All they'd have is:
Yep, we fked the economy for everyone and it'll take two more generations before it gets better.
Yep, we fked the country with rampant unchecked open door immigration. (I believe immigration can be good and is on the whole positive but we had too many come too fast and nobody is integrated).
Our only policy is to buy votes from our client state of public sector staff, unionised morons, and the workshy benefits brigade.

Doesn't make for nearly such an appealing campaign as banging on about bankers, tories, tax evasion etc.
Unionised morons?

What makes you think belonging to a union equals a guaranteed labour vote, i belong to the cwu and i won't be voting labour nor will many of my colleagues (although take that with a pinch of salt that's only 4 people)

egor110

16,878 posts

204 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Adrian W said:
egor110 said:
So when's Labour first 100 days being shown ?
We've already seen the Tory's first thousand days, and what a fk up they've made of it
See I'm not sure i agree.

I'm working class blue collar union card holding person so guess i should lean towards labour, yet i like ukips immigration policy combined with shocking the normal labour/conservative status quo, but on the other hand with conservative my interest rate is a record low and i can earn more before paying any tax.

Esseesse

8,969 posts

209 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Eclassy said:
I liked it. Very interesting. UKIP probably wont get any more tham the 2 stolen seats they have now but I dont think it is far from what would happen if we got a UKIP government.

How else would they send all ethniks back to the motherland? By stopping every wrong shade person on the street of course.
When has UKIP ever concerned themselves with people's colour?

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

245 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Esseesse said:
Eclassy said:
I liked it. Very interesting. UKIP probably wont get any more tham the 2 stolen seats they have now but I dont think it is far from what would happen if we got a UKIP government.

How else would they send all ethniks back to the motherland? By stopping every wrong shade person on the street of course.
When has UKIP ever concerned themselves with people's colour?
If you tell a lie loud enough, often enough, the hard of thinking will come to believe it.

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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This poor chap is a little overwrought, poor lamb.

I expect most will react after a more measured fashion.

Edited by Zod on Tuesday 17th February 14:56

omgus

7,305 posts

176 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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egor110 said:
See I'm not sure i agree.

I'm working class blue collar union card holding person so guess i should lean towards labour, yet i like ukips immigration policy combined with shocking the normal labour/conservative status quo, but on the other hand with conservative my interest rate is a record low and i can earn more before paying any tax.
The problem is some of UKIPs policies further down the list.
I think of a lot of UKIP supporters are like like Greens supporters.
They very heavily agree with the major points but don't know what else the party stand for that they will disagree with, and they forget that these policies will also be brought into the mix.


  • Obviously everyone in NP&E will know all the party policies backwards and will not fall under this generalisation.

TTwiggy

11,548 posts

205 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Einion Yrth said:
Esseesse said:
Eclassy said:
I liked it. Very interesting. UKIP probably wont get any more tham the 2 stolen seats they have now but I dont think it is far from what would happen if we got a UKIP government.

How else would they send all ethniks back to the motherland? By stopping every wrong shade person on the street of course.
When has UKIP ever concerned themselves with people's colour?
If you tell a lie loud enough, often enough, the hard of thinking will come to believe it.
Yes, but enough of Ukip's dishonest conflating of the ECHR, the EU and Europe, what did you think of the program? smile

LucreLout

908 posts

119 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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egor110 said:
Unionised morons?

What makes you think belonging to a union equals a guaranteed labour vote, i belong to the cwu and i won't be voting labour nor will many of my colleagues (although take that with a pinch of salt that's only 4 people)
£9 million your union has given to labour. How much, may I ask has it handed over to each of the conservatives, ukip, liberals, or greens?

Yeah... Gives the game away, no?

Digga

40,349 posts

284 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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omgus said:
The problem is some of UKIPs policies further down the list.
I think of a lot of UKIP supporters are like like Greens supporters.
They very heavily agree with the major points but don't know what else the party stand for that they will disagree with, and they forget that these policies will also be brought into the mix.


  • Obviously everyone in NP&E will know all the party policies backwards and will not fall under this generalisation.
I have to ask, which policy(s) do you find to be the problem:

http://www.ukip.org/policies_for_people

egor110

16,878 posts

204 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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LucreLout said:
egor110 said:
Unionised morons?

What makes you think belonging to a union equals a guaranteed labour vote, i belong to the cwu and i won't be voting labour nor will many of my colleagues (although take that with a pinch of salt that's only 4 people)
£9 million your union has given to labour. How much, may I ask has it handed over to each of the conservatives, ukip, liberals, or greens?

Yeah... Gives the game away, no?
The fact my union has given 9 million to labour (if that figure is correct) does not equal me voting labour, for your information we can opt out of any poltical levy from our union fees.

Why would any union give money to conservatives? They have there big business pals donating huge sums so seems only the smaller parties need to sort of financing .