The problem with Islam.
Discussion
Countdown said:
Where in that link does it suggest that he's a hero?
Is that the best Squirrel you can come up with?Evil
of a murderer has large numbers turn up at his funeral to celebrate his actions and all you can come up with is that. If a mate of mine killed someone, the last place I would be is their funeral.Perfect example of the issue of denial in Islam.
Accept there is an issue, then it can be dealt with.
The issue I feel mainly comes down to Identity - If asked to describe myself, I would say I am a British male. Colour and religion play no part consciously in how I describe myself. If someone is showered with labels for their Identity at a young age those labels will cause them to distance themselves and fail to Integrate.
jogon said:
No point mentioning history to the likes of JYB, they consider themselves to be somehow superior beings, so sure of their own moral and intellectual superiority over those around them that they have no need to learn the lessons of history or the qualities of the past which have been gradually built up over the last thousand years,
They refuse to look behind them at the trail of destruction left behind by his ilk in government instead continuing further in to the quagmire.
Islam is merely taking advantage of our current weak and progressive government we have been left with. Doomed is an understatement.
Probably the oddest thing I have ever read on here. Truly bizarre. They refuse to look behind them at the trail of destruction left behind by his ilk in government instead continuing further in to the quagmire.
Islam is merely taking advantage of our current weak and progressive government we have been left with. Doomed is an understatement.
Justayellowbadge said:
jogon said:
No point mentioning history to the likes of JYB, they consider themselves to be somehow superior beings, so sure of their own moral and intellectual superiority over those around them that they have no need to learn the lessons of history or the qualities of the past which have been gradually built up over the last thousand years,
They refuse to look behind them at the trail of destruction left behind by his ilk in government instead continuing further in to the quagmire.
Islam is merely taking advantage of our current weak and progressive government we have been left with. Doomed is an understatement.
Probably the oddest thing I have ever read on here. Truly bizarre. They refuse to look behind them at the trail of destruction left behind by his ilk in government instead continuing further in to the quagmire.
Islam is merely taking advantage of our current weak and progressive government we have been left with. Doomed is an understatement.
FredClogs said:
Justayellowbadge said:
jogon said:
No point mentioning history to the likes of JYB, they consider themselves to be somehow superior beings, so sure of their own moral and intellectual superiority over those around them that they have no need to learn the lessons of history or the qualities of the past which have been gradually built up over the last thousand years,
They refuse to look behind them at the trail of destruction left behind by his ilk in government instead continuing further in to the quagmire.
Islam is merely taking advantage of our current weak and progressive government we have been left with. Doomed is an understatement.
Probably the oddest thing I have ever read on here. Truly bizarre. They refuse to look behind them at the trail of destruction left behind by his ilk in government instead continuing further in to the quagmire.
Islam is merely taking advantage of our current weak and progressive government we have been left with. Doomed is an understatement.
jogon said:
No point mentioning history to the likes of JYB, they consider themselves to be somehow superior beings, so sure of their own moral and intellectual superiority over those around them that they have no need to learn the lessons of history or the qualities of the past which have been gradually built up over the last thousand years,
They refuse to look behind them at the trail of destruction left behind by his ilk in government instead continuing further in to the quagmire.
Islam is merely taking advantage of our current weak and progressive government we have been left with. Doomed is an understatement.
Sounds like a reasonable generic description of the average delusional lefty. Might be wrong, but sounds that way. They refuse to look behind them at the trail of destruction left behind by his ilk in government instead continuing further in to the quagmire.
Islam is merely taking advantage of our current weak and progressive government we have been left with. Doomed is an understatement.
Cheese Mechanic said:
jogon said:
No point mentioning history to the likes of JYB, they consider themselves to be somehow superior beings, so sure of their own moral and intellectual superiority over those around them that they have no need to learn the lessons of history or the qualities of the past which have been gradually built up over the last thousand years,
They refuse to look behind them at the trail of destruction left behind by his ilk in government instead continuing further in to the quagmire.
Islam is merely taking advantage of our current weak and progressive government we have been left with. Doomed is an understatement.
Sounds like a reasonable generic description of the average delusional lefty. Might be wrong, but sounds that way. They refuse to look behind them at the trail of destruction left behind by his ilk in government instead continuing further in to the quagmire.
Islam is merely taking advantage of our current weak and progressive government we have been left with. Doomed is an understatement.
king priceless.Cheese Mechanic said:
TTwiggy said:
The 'lot' that sees socialist/common purpose conspiracies behind every hedge.
Do they? What hedge is that? Is it a coloquial euphemism for a beard? You know, like Karl marx? In fashion now you know, hipsters, apparently, are they a conspiracy?Cheese Mechanic said:
jogon said:
No point mentioning history to the likes of JYB, they consider themselves to be somehow superior beings, so sure of their own moral and intellectual superiority over those around them that they have no need to learn the lessons of history or the qualities of the past which have been gradually built up over the last thousand years,
They refuse to look behind them at the trail of destruction left behind by his ilk in government instead continuing further in to the quagmire.
Islam is merely taking advantage of our current weak and progressive government we have been left with. Doomed is an understatement.
Sounds like a reasonable generic description of the average delusional lefty. Might be wrong, but sounds that way. They refuse to look behind them at the trail of destruction left behind by his ilk in government instead continuing further in to the quagmire.
Islam is merely taking advantage of our current weak and progressive government we have been left with. Doomed is an understatement.
Riiiiiiight.
Justayellowbadge said:
jogon said:
No point mentioning history to the likes of JYB, they consider themselves to be somehow superior beings, so sure of their own moral and intellectual superiority over those around them that they have no need to learn the lessons of history or the qualities of the past which have been gradually built up over the last thousand years,
They refuse to look behind them at the trail of destruction left behind by his ilk in government instead continuing further in to the quagmire.
Islam is merely taking advantage of our current weak and progressive government we have been left with. Doomed is an understatement.
Probably the oddest thing I have ever read on here. Truly bizarre. They refuse to look behind them at the trail of destruction left behind by his ilk in government instead continuing further in to the quagmire.
Islam is merely taking advantage of our current weak and progressive government we have been left with. Doomed is an understatement.
TTwiggy said:
Cheese Mechanic said:
TTwiggy said:
Yeah, because JAYB is SUCH a lefty! You lot are fking priceless.
What lot, precisely?king priceless.irocfan said:
TTwiggy said:
Cheese Mechanic said:
TTwiggy said:
Yeah, because JAYB is SUCH a lefty! You lot are fking priceless.
What lot, precisely?king priceless.Just heard a report & interview on R4.
In a recent survey, 78% of British Muslims said that portraying Muhammad in images is deeply insulting.
20% said that Western culture was incompatible with Islam.
Some students from Bradford said that it is the rest of British society that must change & accept Muslims & Islam rather than the other way around.
Not that it should be one way from either side but their sentiment was quite clear.
The interview with the chap (didn't catch his name but was the one who organised the recent protest in London about cartoons) was pretty much the same. Don't do anything we don't like or else.
I'm confused. On this forum, it's constantly suggested that such views represent a tiny, tiny fraction of the Muslims in the UK.
If 78% is tiny, or even 20%, what constitutes large?
In a recent survey, 78% of British Muslims said that portraying Muhammad in images is deeply insulting.
20% said that Western culture was incompatible with Islam.
Some students from Bradford said that it is the rest of British society that must change & accept Muslims & Islam rather than the other way around.
Not that it should be one way from either side but their sentiment was quite clear.
The interview with the chap (didn't catch his name but was the one who organised the recent protest in London about cartoons) was pretty much the same. Don't do anything we don't like or else.
I'm confused. On this forum, it's constantly suggested that such views represent a tiny, tiny fraction of the Muslims in the UK.
If 78% is tiny, or even 20%, what constitutes large?
Smiler. said:
Just heard a report & interview on R4.
In a recent survey, 78% of British Muslims said that portraying Muhammad in images is deeply insulting.
Okay. Strange, but doesn't actually harm anyone. If I ever want to make in image of Muhammad, (which I doubt I ever will), I will upset peopleIn a recent survey, 78% of British Muslims said that portraying Muhammad in images is deeply insulting.
smiler said:
20% said that Western culture was incompatible with Islam.
A mildly concerning statistic but largely irrelevant in isolation. That could simply mean as little as the fact we allow drinking is not compatible with Islam. So what>?smiler said:
Some students from Bradford said that it is the rest of British society that must change & accept Muslims & Islam rather than the other way around.
THis one is priceless. "Some students". Are you seriously trying to portray a sentence containing that phrase as a statistic? Smiler. said:
Just heard a report & interview on R4.
In a recent survey, 78% of British Muslims said that portraying Muhammad in images is deeply insulting.
20% said that Western culture was incompatible with Islam.
Some students from Bradford said that it is the rest of British society that must change & accept Muslims & Islam rather than the other way around.
.....
I'm confused. On this forum, it's constantly suggested that such views represent a tiny, tiny fraction of the Muslims in the UK.
If 78% is tiny, or even 20%, what constitutes large?
iirc was 78% of 1000 people polled. And I from what I heard of it, the questions were slightly ambiguous. So you can't read anything into it.In a recent survey, 78% of British Muslims said that portraying Muhammad in images is deeply insulting.
20% said that Western culture was incompatible with Islam.
Some students from Bradford said that it is the rest of British society that must change & accept Muslims & Islam rather than the other way around.
.....
I'm confused. On this forum, it's constantly suggested that such views represent a tiny, tiny fraction of the Muslims in the UK.
If 78% is tiny, or even 20%, what constitutes large?
British society as a whole tends to accept almost all religious beliefs. There isn't anything that needs to be changed.
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