The problem with Islam.

[Cheese Mechanic]

Like many , I have a very dubious view of Islam basically seeing it as a catalyst for many of its practitioners to commit mass murder and generally to act in many ways downright backward, medieval even.

So, an evil cult , albeit followed by misguided millions is any easy view to have of Islam.

Anyhow, as to why lunatics like ISIL run around killing anybody and anyone for whatever reason they can justify to themselves is explained (in a way) to a very thought provoking article I'm linking to.

I picked it up initially here: http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/02...

The full article being here: http://jordantimes.com/we-have-a-problem

Its very interesting, thought provoking even. Fact is though, what are Muslims going to do about it?

P/S Interesting stuff about Morsi, no wonder they Egyptians have banged him up.

[longblackcoat]

Poster puts up (yet another) anti-Muslim post, like we've never got enough of them on PH. Links to a Bretbart article.

Let's see, I wonder how this one will go?

[wolves_wanderer]

In before the usual 99 pages of casual racism, bullst and "sky fairy" that plague this place

[Mr_B]

longblackcoat said:

Poster puts up (yet another) anti-Muslim post, like we've never got enough of them on PH. Links to a Bretbart article.

Let's see, I wonder how this one will go?

Not sure your blanket everything is 'anti Muslim' and not anti Islam, deceleration does you any favours either.

[Cheese Mechanic]

longblackcoat said:

Poster puts up (yet another) anti-Muslim post, like we've never got enough of them on PH. Links to a Bretbart article.

Let's see, I wonder how this one will go?

Obviously you have not read the article. Do you find it easy to be a professional idiot?

[longblackcoat]

Cheese Mechanic said:

longblackcoat said:

Poster puts up (yet another) anti-Muslim post, like we've never got enough of them on PH. Links to a Bretbart article.

Let's see, I wonder how this one will go?

Obviously you have not read the article. Do you find it easy to be a professional idiot?

Comment wasn't aimed at you or the article, more at what will inevitably follow. This is PH, the source is Breitbart, and you mentioned Islam.

[TTwiggy]

I'm amazed that Haymarket haven't washed their hands of this place really. It's starting to feel like 'stormfront' in here.

[Fantic SuperT]

TTwiggy said:

I'm amazed that Haymarket haven't washed their hands of this place really. It's starting to feel like 'stormfront' in here.

I wish they would. Discussions were much freer in the TVR days.

[tangerine_sedge]

Cheese Mechanic said:

Like many , I have a very dubious view of Islam basically seeing it as a catalyst for many of its practitioners to commit mass murder and generally to act in many ways downright backward, medieval even.

Let me reword that for you :

Like a vocal minority, I fear Islam, basically blaming it for a small minority(*) of its practitioners to commit mass murder and generally to act in many ways downright backward, medieval even.

(*) worldwide Muslims = 1.8Billion, members of ISIL/ISIS=~235k (but lets be kind and say 2Million world wide), therefore ISIS make up 0.1% of all muslims. We could of course include lots of other groups of Muslim activists, lets say another 8Million which would give us 10Million worldwide meaning 0.5% of all muslims.

I'm getting a little tired of seeing the same sweeping generalsations posted here, backed up by far-right self interest blogs & opinion puff-pieces.

Now follows 20 pages of anti muslim nonsense.

[Fantic SuperT]

tangerine_sedge said:

Let me reword that for you :

Like a vocal minority, I fear Islam, basically blaming it for a small minority(*) of its practitioners to commit mass murder and generally to act in many ways downright backward, medieval even.

(*) worldwide Muslims = 1.8Billion, members of ISIL/ISIS=~235k (but lets be kind and say 2Million world wide), therefore ISIS make up 0.1% of all muslims. We could of course include lots of other groups of Muslim activists, lets say another 8Million which would give us 10Million worldwide meaning 0.5% of all muslims.

I'm getting a little tired of seeing the same sweeping generalsations posted here, backed up by far-right self interest blogs & opinion puff-pieces.

Now follows 20 pages of anti muslim nonsense.

Can you reference a credible source that all the Muslims with extreme views (i.e. justifying the killing of people who leave, or never joined the correct religious sect) are members of ISIL / ISIS?

[Cheese Mechanic]

longblackcoat said:

Comment wasn't aimed at you or the article, more at what will inevitably follow. This is PH, the source is Breitbart, and you mentioned Islam.

Definitely not read it. I found it refered to on Brietbart, the actual source, if you actually stopped being an idiot for a minute, is the Jordan Times. The author a Muslim Attorney.

Never mind. You are only as stupid as at least a couple of others who have also gobbed off without even looking.
Jerks

[TwigtheWonderkid]

All religious extremists are the people who actually do what their holy book tells them to do.
Normal religious people cherry pick the bits they like and follow those.

[wolves_wanderer]

Cheese Mechanic said:

Definitely not read it. I found it refered to on Brietbart, the actual source, if you actually stopped being an idiot for a minute, is the Jordan Times. The author a Muslim Attorney.

Never mind. You are only as stupid as at least a couple of others who have also gobbed off without even looking.
Jerks

If you post the 9000th thread this month about Muslims, don't be surprised if people don't even read your links.

Top stropping though.

[funkyrobot]

Are Romanian gypsies off the hook now?

[longblackcoat]

Cheese Mechanic said:

longblackcoat said:

Comment wasn't aimed at you or the article, more at what will inevitably follow. This is PH, the source is Breitbart, and you mentioned Islam.

Definitely not read it. I found it refered to on Brietbart, the actual source, if you actually stopped being an idiot for a minute, is the Jordan Times. The author a Muslim Attorney.

Never mind. You are only as stupid as at least a couple of others who have also gobbed off without even looking.
Jerks

I read the article. I found it interesting. My point was not (as I explained to you earlier) the article itself, or your post.

It was aimed at the many aggressive posters on PH who insult people without reading what was actually posted, and making the point that the linking of Islam/Breitbart/PH is a toxic cocktail.

Easy enough for you to understand?

[TTwiggy]

funkyrobot said:

Are Romanian gypsies off the hook now?

I believe that in the recent 'Dead Muslim v Dead Romany in cemetery balls-up' debacle, PH was mostly on the side of the purveyors of Tarmac driveways. So, in short, yes.

[telecat]

Unless I am mistaken the post directs you to read the article. That article written by a Muslim, looks at the Teachings of Ibn Abdul Wahab and the influence these have on "Modern" Islam and the violence it seems to justify. The Muslim author of the article also rejects current "scholars" who try and justify Wahab teachings as being "apologists". The violent attitude of his teachings take the Quran and twist it.

[ellroy]

OP thank you for posting that, very interesting and thought provoking read.

Although, perhaps your title should be ''The Problem with PH.''?

As frankly the rabid arguments and name calling that seems to be more and more a feature of all discussions is getting tiresome.

[TKF]

funkyrobot said:

Are Romanian gypsies off the hook now?

pssst, Romanian and Romani are different things from different continents

[JensenA]

Why is it that if you say you are anti Islam/Muslim you are immediately classed as a racist? From what I understand, Islam seems totally incompatible with the values of western culture. When there has been trouble in other parts of the world, eg the current tensions between Ukraine and Russia, or the break up of the old Yugoslavia, no one went rushing over there to fight alongside our 'Christian' brothers. But for some reason, Muslims seem to view themselves as Muslims, and not a national of the country they live in. That is something I can't understand, and something that reinforces my suspicion of Islam. The leaders of C of E for example, can come out with statements and 'we' are all free to ridicule and criticize those statements, without fear of offending anyone, and with no fear of any repercussions. Yet 'we' are scared to ridicule or criticise anything that is Muslim.