Finally, proof there is no God.

Finally, proof there is no God.

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anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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///ajd said:
Quite the opposite. It is extremely liberating knowing that you can live your life to the full - there is no after life, no god to serve, no need to waste time plotting to kill infidels, or persecute homosexuals, or otherwise generally fritter your life away on complete nonsense dreamt up hundreds or thousands of years ago in the dark ages when people thought storms were God being angry. Live life for now, not for some 70-odd promised virgins.



Is this how you choose to.live your life?

Burwood

18,709 posts

245 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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anonymous said:
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your reasoning is one step removed from Ray Comfort the banana guy. Im amazed that religion even caught on. God chose the Middle East to reveal himself. A region of illiterates . Seems odd, given the planets other highly educated populations available.

///ajd

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8,964 posts

205 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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anonymous said:
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It is bizarre how wanting to be constrained, controlled, told what to think, who to persecute, and on no account to think that anything other than a single God is behind the universe is somehow having an open mind. Whereas being open to any explanation for the universe and life and everything - and being willing to change that view as things are learned - is having a closed mind.



anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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s2art said:
Which possibilities does atheism close off? I think you confuse 'a lack of belief' with 'a belief in the lack of'.
The following terms are used quite regularly on PH:
Destroy.
Reject.
Erase.
Cleanse.

These are terms used by Atheists to explain their desires towards people who don't share their point of view.

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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///ajd said:
It is bizarre how wanting to be constrained, controlled, told what to think, who to persecute, and on no account to think that anything other than a single God is behind the universe is somehow having an open mind. Whereas being open to any explanation for the universe and life and everything - and being willing to change that view as things are learned - is having a closed mind.
Funny thing is how you explain my life is not how I lead my life, and how you explain your life is not how you live your life!

TwigtheWonderkid

43,248 posts

149 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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Troubleatmill said:
You are quite literally made of stardust.
Stars had to die (One has died every second since the big bang ) in order for you to be here.
Your left hand will comprise of different stars from your right hand.
Forget Jesus dying for you. Billions of stars have died for you.
And when you die - your atoms go on and become other things.

That is far more wonderful a concept than the big CCTV in the sky watching your every more waiting to damn you into hell or purgatory.
It's brilliant, isn't it. As is evolution. I'm related to moss. And to the pineapple I've just eaten. It was my distant cousin, and very tasty it was too.

And every single one of my ancestors, back to mudskippers crawling on to land for the first time and further, was a winner. They all lived long enough to find a mate and reproduce. I come from a 200 million year long line of winners!

And I have kids. They contain 50% fo my DNA. Their kids will have 25%. And if humanity survives for another 53 generations, everyone on the planet will have a tiny piece of my DNA in them. How cool is that. I'm going to live forever.

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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Burwood said:
your reasoning is one step removed from Ray Comfort the banana guy. Im amazed that religion even caught on. God chose the Middle East to reveal himself. A region of illiterates . Seems odd, given the planets other highly educated populations available.
And nothing you stated there was driven by prejudice?

///ajd

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8,964 posts

205 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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anonymous said:
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In what respect?


s2art

18,937 posts

252 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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anonymous said:
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Strangely I associate those terms with religions, particularly religions originating in the middle east.

Burwood

18,709 posts

245 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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anonymous said:
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which bit? I don't mean to offend you but i struggle to see how anyone with an intellect can actually say an atheist is the one with a closed mind. It's the other way round. I do realise this is an argument in futility as i know that no matter what evidence people like yourself will just ignore it.


anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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///ajd said:
In what respect?
Atheism is all about closing off certain possibilities. How can you be open to 'any' possibilities if part of your identify revolves around rejection and denial of possibilities?

///ajd

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8,964 posts

205 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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anonymous said:
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So you don't think you religion tells you what to think? It doesn't control how you live your life?

But it seems you are forced to believe in your particular God. Are you allowed to believe in other Gods, or no God? Why not? Why did you chose the God you believe in? Did you choose him? Or did someone choose him for you? How old were you when you chose him, or he was chosen for you?


anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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Burwood said:
which bit? I don't mean to offend you but i struggle to see how anyone with an intellect can actually say an atheist is the one with a closed mind. It's the other way round. I do realise this is an argument in futility as i know that no matter what evidence people like yourself will just ignore it.
What evidence of what are you referring to?

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

158 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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anonymous said:
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Do you accept the possibility that God has a sense of humour - and sends all the evil people to heaven and the good people to hell?

Burwood

18,709 posts

245 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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anonymous said:
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there isn't enough time left for that one but nice side step. im not debating evidence, countless threads on it. you asked me if i was prejudiced and i replied asking what part of my post you refer too.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

283 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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Ah, atheist closed minded. That is a new one.

Derek Smith

45,514 posts

247 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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anonymous said:
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More likely phrases would include:

corrupting children's minds, misogyny, homophobia, tax exemption (well, that last is most frequently mine), restriction, anti-scientific and more along that line.

It is my recollection that most on here are happy for religionsists to believe what they want: astrology, homeopathy, christ risen, the arks, that sort of thing. Just don't make me pay for it and don't feed it to children.

I sat next to two train spotters in Next this morning. One was showing the other pictures on his pad. At one time, when talking about Derby railway sheds, the bloke with the pad said to the other: this is a picture of the other side of the shed. The pair stared at it for some minutes. These were taken in 1974 or 5.

Now I've never been a train spotter. I did once go up to London with some mates who were, but that was to get to London. However, the attraction of train spotting is not beyond my ability to comprehend.

Just to put my view in perspective: I give to two charities regularly, by way of covenant I think the phrase is, so that they get tax back. One of these is the salvation army. I think their religious views are rubbish but the good they do with those who have been abandoned by society is remarkable. In chatting to one in London, down by the Middle Temple - the contrast being about as difficult to support as anywhere - one of the adherents reckoned that he did not believe in the particulars of the sally ann religion, but went along with it because he wanted to do something. He was an ex squaddie and a lot of the vagrants were as well in those days. He said, in justification for his dishonesty as he saw it, that most of his comrades (I forget what he called them) were slackers and that if they didn't do it, no one would.

But, for the last part, he was wrong. The reason society doesn't do something about it is because someone else does.

Just a request from me: consider putting a bit in the SA collection boxes. Unless you've been down and out yourself, or have patrolled the streets, you don't realise what a good job they do.

They are, in the main, daft as brushes, but that doesn't make their sacrifices any the less admirable.

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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///ajd said:
So you don't think you religion tells you what to think? It doesn't control how you live your life?

But it seems you are forced to believe in your particular God. Are you allowed to believe in other Gods, or no God? Why not? Why did you chose the God you believe in? Did you choose him? Or did someone choose him for you? How old were you when you chose him, or he was chosen for you?
Think of this. There's a shop with a blue jumper and a red jumper. I might pick blue, I might pick red, hmmmmmmm..........
Blue is a nice colour, red's not so bad. I think the blue one suits me better so I buy the blue one. Did that jumper force me to buy it?
You, on the other hand, stand outside the shop shouting "blue jumpers do not exist in this shop, only red"!

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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Burwood said:
there isn't enough time left for that one but nice side step. im not debating evidence, countless threads on it. you asked me if i was prejudiced and i replied asking what part of my post you refer too.
Since when does literacy equal worthiness? That is your prejudice. Question answered.
So which evidence are.you referring to, and evidence of what?
A little OT perhaps but do you consider yourself even-handed when the situation of Israel/Palestine comes up?

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Burwood

18,709 posts

245 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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anonymous said:
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it may account for the scribes cocking up the facts when making a record of Gods word. See above post for evidence comment.