Migration into UK soars

[BlackLabel]

Cameron and Clegg on hearing that Theresa May still buys into the 'tens of thousands' pledge.

[Mrr T]

fido said:

Mrr T said:

Of those I know who have come to the UK from the EU in the last 4 years 90% would have passed the Australian points based system.

That's purely anecdotal. I could say the same about any country in the world - but I live in leafy SW London.

Of cause its anecdotal. However, it has more statistical validity than the quote from UKIP that only "20k immigrants would have passed the Australian entry test". For which they had no evidence.

[Police State]

superkartracer said:

http://news.sky.com/story/1437984/appeal-to-find-d...

Wonderful

More highly skilled workforce...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-317225...

[Mermaid]

Police State said:

superkartracer said:

http://news.sky.com/story/1437984/appeal-to-find-d...

Wonderful

More highly skilled workforce...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-317225...

These criminals don't work at No 10, so it is OK

[jogon]

At least Dave will be safe under the caliphate.

[pork911]

DeanR32 said:

pork911 said:

DeanR32 said:

I bought the Nissan Skyline as a gift to myself when I got my first mortgage on a flat.

huh????

I don't think this was very hard to understand.

i don't usually buy myself gifts for getting into debt. maybe that's just me

[JagLover]

DeanR32 said:

To everyone posting on this thread, what do you think the best solution would be to cure this so called "problem" we have?

First of all it should be recognised that the massive increase in immigration since 1997 didn't happen by accident but was a deliberate act of policy by Labour.

An immigration system fit for purpose would have to look at all drivers of mass migration and seek to draw a proper balance between the needs of the country as a whole, the economy and the rights of individuals.

Most immigration since 1997 has actually been Non-EU (despite many commentators/politicians pretending otherwise). Without the Human Rights Act we were quite capable before of managing this migration and would be again were it to be scrapped.

For the EU migration it would be necessary to withdraw from free movement of Labour, or from the EU altogether.

[DeanR32]

pork911 said:

DeanR32 said:

pork911 said:

DeanR32 said:

I bought the Nissan Skyline as a gift to myself when I got my first mortgage on a flat.

huh????

I don't think this was very hard to understand.

i don't usually buy myself gifts for getting into debt. maybe that's just me

You've done bloody well in life then. I bought a car after I got a mortgage. Regardless of the time scale, doesn't everyone buy a car whilst paying a mortgage?

[Axionknight]

DeanR32 said:

You've done bloody well in life then. I bought a car after I got a mortgage. Regardless of the time scale, doesn't everyone buy a car whilst paying a mortgage?

This is Pistonheads, if you can't afford to buy both for cash then I'm afraid you'll have to be banned on the grounds of vagrancy.

[KFC]

Mrr T said:

So now the mythical uncle is not unskilled!! He a plasterer as well!!

I cannot speak for the whole of the UK but where I live plasterers are in high demand and wages are good and rising because of a shortage.

I work in IT so don't particularly understand the exact building phrases I should be using. Where he lives workers like him are certainly not in demand. Unless they're willing to work for £4 an hour. Which without 12 housemates, he can't do.

I wouldn't call plastering a particularly skilled job? Either way thats not worth getting into, it doesn't change the facts.

[DeanR32]

Axionknight said:

DeanR32 said:

You've done bloody well in life then. I bought a car after I got a mortgage. Regardless of the time scale, doesn't everyone buy a car whilst paying a mortgage?

This is Pistonheads, if you can't afford to buy both for cash then I'm afraid you'll have to be banned on the grounds of vagrancy.

How am I supposed to agree with this in PH style?

Oh yeah.

Nail. Head

[R666]

Mrr T said:

fido said:

Mrr T said:

Of those I know who have come to the UK from the EU in the last 4 years 90% would have passed the Australian points based system.

That's purely anecdotal. I could say the same about any country in the world - but I live in leafy SW London.

Of cause its anecdotal. However, it has more statistical validity than the quote from UKIP that only "20k immigrants would have passed the Australian entry test". For which they had no evidence.

There is no statistical validity in your statement whatsoever. Have you studied statistics? UKIP could well be the same, I don't know their source of data

[Mermaid]

DeanR32 said:

Axionknight said:

DeanR32 said:

You've done bloody well in life then. I bought a car after I got a mortgage. Regardless of the time scale, doesn't everyone buy a car whilst paying a mortgage?

This is Pistonheads, if you can't afford to buy both for cash then I'm afraid you'll have to be banned on the grounds of vagrancy.

How am I supposed to agree with this in PH style?

Oh yeah.

Nail. Head

Was told few 918 purchasers require finance, proper PH'ers.

[pork911]

DeanR32 said:

pork911 said:

DeanR32 said:

pork911 said:

DeanR32 said:

I bought the Nissan Skyline as a gift to myself when I got my first mortgage on a flat.

huh????

I don't think this was very hard to understand.

i don't usually buy myself gifts for getting into debt. maybe that's just me

You've done bloody well in life then. I bought a car after I got a mortgage. Regardless of the time scale, doesn't everyone buy a car whilst paying a mortgage?

not everyone no it was more the way you phrased it

[Mrr T]

KFC said:

I work in IT so don't particularly understand the exact building phrases I should be using. Where he lives workers like him are certainly not in demand. Unless they're willing to work for £4 an hour. Which without 12 housemates, he can't do.

I wouldn't call plastering a particularly skilled job? Either way thats not worth getting into, it doesn't change the facts.

So you are suggesting the employer is paying less than the minimum wage? As for letting to 12 people. I assume you understand the costs of maintaining a house of multiple occupancy.

[wc98]

KFC said:

I wouldn't call plastering a particularly skilled job? Either way thats not worth getting into, it doesn't change the facts.

and some office workers/computer desk jockeys wonder why people that actually make st may take the piss now and then a good plasterer will have served a 4 year apprenticeship ,most kids these days have the basics of i t by the time they leave school.
(cast out bait,sit and wait)

[KFC]

Mrr T said:

So you are suggesting the employer is paying less than the minimum wage? As for letting to 12 people. I assume you understand the costs of maintaining a house of multiple occupancy.

Many employers are paying under min wage when they think they can get away with it. Some are even doing it legally. Polish plumber sets up ltd company and takes on 100 hours of work for £400. He's deliberately working for under the minimum allowed, and removed a british plumber from employment. He's coming up against this time and time again, as are people he knows from the building trade. Its not a one off problem - its a massive issue.

Would it surprise you to know that some immigrants don't actually comply with multiple occupancy rules also?

[PlankWithANailIn]

wc98 said:

a good plasterer will have served a 4 year apprenticeship
(cast out bait,sit and wait)

Ha, there is no such thing as an apprenticeship for plasterers! Good plasterers get paid for their work and given and endless stream of future jobs if the market can support it, crap ones don't..that's all there is to it.

[NicD]

Mrr T said:

fido said:

Mrr T said:

Of those I know who have come to the UK from the EU in the last 4 years 90% would have passed the Australian points based system.

That's purely anecdotal. I could say the same about any country in the world - but I live in leafy SW London.

Of cause its anecdotal. However, it has more statistical validity than the quote from UKIP that only "20k immigrants would have passed the Australian entry test". For which they had no evidence.

Mrrt T

After I have recovered from the sheer audacity of your statement, i have to ask what is YOUR evidence?

You appear to be saying that as you see no 'evidence' supplied in the article, they have none, which then makes any statement you make correct as you have none either.

Actually you say your blatant lie 'has more statistical validity'.

If this is your stance, how do you manage to get up each morning without tripping over your stupidity?

[wc98]

PlankWithANailIn said:

Ha, there is no such thing as an apprenticeship for plasterers! Good plasterers get paid for their work and given and endless stream of future jobs if the market can support it, crap ones don't..that's all there is to it.

really,i have not met many that were born with a trowel in their hand . a highly skilled plasterer that can do anything from a new build to old plaster lath work will have served an apprenticeship. plenty places offering short residential courses where you can pick up the basics ,but the result will be a world away from a skilled time served tradesman.