Migration into UK soars

[crankedup]

NicD said:

Mrr T said:

fido said:

Mrr T said:

Of those I know who have come to the UK from the EU in the last 4 years 90% would have passed the Australian points based system.

That's purely anecdotal. I could say the same about any country in the world - but I live in leafy SW London.

Of cause its anecdotal. However, it has more statistical validity than the quote from UKIP that only "20k immigrants would have passed the Australian entry test". For which they had no evidence.

Mrrt T

After I have recovered from the sheer audacity of your statement, i have to ask what is YOUR evidence?

You appear to be saying that as you see no 'evidence' supplied in the article, they have none, which then makes any statement you make correct as you have none either.

Actually you say your blatant lie 'has more statistical validity'.

If this is your stance, how do you manage to get up each morning without tripping over your stupidity?

First rate contribution from poster who finally contributes to this thread.

[BlackLabel]

Mrr T said:

So you are suggesting the employer is paying less than the minimum wage? As for letting to 12 people. I assume you understand the costs of maintaining a house of multiple occupancy.

About the same as the costs involved in maintaining a shed/'house' in your back garden. The authorities cannot even get a grip on the aforementioned issue so do you really think rogue landlords who don't maintain and handle their HMOs properly really give a st? Council enforcement of this is pathetic - probably because they don't want to kick people out onto the street only to be responsible for then housing them.

Edited by BlackLabel on Wednesday 4th March 19:21

[Yazar]

Mrr T said:

As for letting to 12 people. I assume you understand the costs of maintaining a house of multiple occupancy.

Costs?? Costs? Slumlords don't have costs.

They wing it and hope for the best. Here is a 8 person, illegally converted into flats, property in Clapham with a tree branch running through it...


http://www.itv.com/news/london/2014-11-29/council-...

Here is Cameron in a 14 residents bed in shed raid, for a token PR exercise (see priceless expression on face, the same as your naive self would probably have!):


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2525872/Br...

[PRTVR]

BlackLabel said:

Mrr T said:

So you are suggesting the employer is paying less than the minimum wage? As for letting to 12 people. I assume you understand the costs of maintaining a house of multiple occupancy.

About the same as the costs involved in maintaining a shed/'house' in your back garden. The authorities cannot even get a grip on the aforementioned issue so do you really think rogue landlords who don't maintain and handle their HMOs properly really give a st? Council enforcement of this is pathetic - probably because they don't want to kick people out onto the street only to be responsible for then housing them.

Edited by BlackLabel on Wednesday 4th March 19:21

I think from Mrr T comments he doesn't live in the real world, I can only think he must be a politician.

[BlackLabel]

Net migration reaches 318,000 – up 100,000 in the past 12 months

article said:

The data showed that 641,000 immigrants came to the UK in 2014. Migration from the EU – over which the Government has no control – rose by 67,000 to 268,000 and by 42,000 from outside the EU to 290,000.

[spadriver]

Sounds like its best not moving around too much on the island just to stop it capsizing.Dont worry though, that nice chap mr cameron will fix it this time-he's just promised to do just that.

[spadriver]

Sounds like its best not moving around too much on the island just to stop it capsizing.Dont worry though, that nice chap mr cameron will fix it this time-he's just promised to do just that.

[ewenm]

BlackLabel said:

Net migration reaches 318,000 – up 100,000 in the past 12 months

article said:

The data showed that 641,000 immigrants came to the UK in 2014. Migration from the EU – over which the Government has no control – rose by 67,000 to 268,000 and by 42,000 from outside the EU to 290,000.

I saw those figures on the news last night... where did the other 83,000 come from if not EU or non-EU?

[voyds9]

Even Cameron realises that tens of thousands is impossible and changed it from a promise to a target.

Call me a pessimist but any renegotiation with the EU will be enough for him to claim a fundamental change and now we should all vote to stay in.

[PRTVR]

ewenm said:

BlackLabel said:

Net migration reaches 318,000 – up 100,000 in the past 12 months

article said:

The data showed that 641,000 immigrants came to the UK in 2014. Migration from the EU – over which the Government has no control – rose by 67,000 to 268,000 and by 42,000 from outside the EU to 290,000.

I saw those figures on the news last night... where did the other 83,000 come from if not EU or non-EU?

Aliens ?
I bet there spaceships are not taxed as well....

[PorkInsider]

ewenm said:

BlackLabel said:

Net migration reaches 318,000 – up 100,000 in the past 12 months

article said:

The data showed that 641,000 immigrants came to the UK in 2014. Migration from the EU – over which the Government has no control – rose by 67,000 to 268,000 and by 42,000 from outside the EU to 290,000.

I saw those figures on the news last night... where did the other 83,000 come from if not EU or non-EU?

Outer Space.

The whole universe knows about the in-work benefits available in the UK.

[The Mad Monk]

Yazar said:

Costs?? Costs? Slumlords don't have costs.

They wing it and hope for the best. Here is a 8 person, illegally converted into flats, property in Clapham with a tree branch running through it...


http://www.itv.com/news/london/2014-11-29/council-...

Here is Cameron in a 14 residents bed in shed raid, for a token PR exercise (see priceless expression on face, the same as your naive self would probably have!):


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2525872/Br...

May I respectfully suggest that you stop buying or reading the Daily Mail?

I will only make you unhappy, dissatisfied and depressed.

[Axionknight]

The Mad Monk said:

May I respectfully suggest that you stop buying or reading the Daily Mail?

I will only make you unhappy, dissatisfied and depressed.

Bit mean to do that just because someone reads a certain newspaper!

[Digga]

Cheap immigrant builders, working all hours, living crammed together in squalid, dingy little sheds... Funny how history has a habit of repeating itself, isn't it?

[ewenm]

PRTVR said:

ewenm said:

BlackLabel said:

Net migration reaches 318,000 – up 100,000 in the past 12 months

article said:

The data showed that 641,000 immigrants came to the UK in 2014. Migration from the EU – over which the Government has no control – rose by 67,000 to 268,000 and by 42,000 from outside the EU to 290,000.

I saw those figures on the news last night... where did the other 83,000 come from if not EU or non-EU?

Aliens ?
I bet there spaceships are not taxed as well....

Well exactly - illegal aliens [/sting]

I don't understand why the journalists didn't question the figures? Do they really just regurgitate the figures spoon-fed to them? It's not hard to see that the two sub-300k figures don't get near the 641k total and yet the difference isn't even acknowledged.

[Esseesse]

BlackLabel said:

Net migration reaches 318,000 – up 100,000 in the past 12 months

article said:

The data showed that 641,000 immigrants came to the UK in 2014. Migration from the EU – over which the Government has no control – rose by 67,000 to 268,000 and by 42,000 from outside the EU to 290,000.

I've got a feeling that this 318k number is a fudged figure too...

Edit: Here we go, did they ever make the changes to 1 year visas to massage migration numbers? Theresa May wanted to... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration...

Edited by Esseesse on Friday 22 May 09:50

[Blib]

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Digga said:

Cheap immigrant builders, working all hours, living crammed together in squalid, dingy little sheds... Funny how history has a habit of repeating itself, isn't it?

There's Inspector Lewis on the right. He must be undercover.

[kowalski655]

Blib said:

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Digga said:

Cheap immigrant builders, working all hours, living crammed together in squalid, dingy little sheds... Funny how history has a habit of repeating itself, isn't it?

There's Inspector Lewis on the right. He must be undercover.

And Det Sgt Spender next to him too, obviously a major operation

[Mrr T]

PRTVR said:

BlackLabel said:

Mrr T said:

So you are suggesting the employer is paying less than the minimum wage? As for letting to 12 people. I assume you understand the costs of maintaining a house of multiple occupancy.

About the same as the costs involved in maintaining a shed/'house' in your back garden. The authorities cannot even get a grip on the aforementioned issue so do you really think rogue landlords who don't maintain and handle their HMOs properly really give a st? Council enforcement of this is pathetic - probably because they don't want to kick people out onto the street only to be responsible for then housing them.

Edited by BlackLabel on Wednesday 4th March 19:21

I think from Mrr T comments he doesn't live in the real world, I can only think he must be a politician.

You I assume you read the Daily Wail.

The world I live in requires some knowledge of renting property.

The facts are most landlords need to borrow money to buy rental properties. You then need to insure the property. If you are letting a house to more than 3 tenants, and there is any serious damage and you have not a) met the relevant standards, and b) told the insurance company its a HMO, and the insurance company finds out they will not pay out on the insurance. Leaving the landlord with the bank debt but no property. A very limited number of landlords may take the risk but its a bad business model and can quickly lead to filling for bankruptcy.

[tangerine_sedge]

kowalski655 said:

Blib said:

L

Digga said:

Cheap immigrant builders, working all hours, living crammed together in squalid, dingy little sheds... Funny how history has a habit of repeating itself, isn't it?

There's Inspector Lewis on the right. He must be undercover.

And Det Sgt Spender next to him too, obviously a major operation

And Mr Turner second from left, he must be the painter & decorator...