CAGE Jihadi Supporters

[cardigankid]

Dr Solomon said:

There is no excuse for killing innocent people, however, let's not ignore the fact that this chap (as is coming to light) was no doubt being harassed by the security services. Are we that stupid to think they just said "hi, how you you doing pal?". If he had no criminal record, no record of any extremist activity and there is evidence that he was 'approached' by security services after which his life/plans went pear shaped - I guess then it must all be coincidental that he suddenly turned into a wrong'un after?

This is bullst.

The security services do not go around victimising Muslims for pleasure. This guy most likely did something which drew their attention to him, whether it is on the official record or not, and given the current concerns about home grown terrorists and what they might try to do to genuinely innocent people, I see it as their job to find out what he is up to. There are far too many young people dabbling on the fringes of serious extremism and they ought to realise that this is a. unacceptable and b. has consequences. The days when anyone should be able to hide wrongdoing behind accusations of racism should be over.

[Lost soul]

anonymous said:

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I am with Pioer also the more oxygen they get the faster they will hang themselves

[BlackLabel]

There's an event being run by Brussels airport coming up soon.

website said:

An urgently-convened special summit of airports, security agencies and senior transport administrators called to safeguard airports against ongoing threat.

http://www.aci-europe-events.com/security-summit/

This is the same airport which was attacked by ISIS earlier this year. And they've only gone and invited Moazzam Begg, the director of CAGE, to give a talk at this event. As someone said in the comments section at the link below "the fox gets to advise on how to build a chicken coop".

http://hurryupharry.org/2016/11/02/flying-blind-in...

http://www.airport-business.com/2016/11/former-gua...

[SKP555]

So security services shouldn't monitor potential extremists in case it alienates and radicalises them?

Seems sensible...

[BlackLabel]

Not a good day for CAGE - they've lost a friend.

bbc said:

A British IS fighter who died in a suicide bomb attack on Iraqi forces in Mosul is a former Guantanamo Bay detainee, the BBC understands.

The self-styled Islamic State group said two days ago that Abu-Zakariya al-Britani detonated a car bomb at an Iraqi army base in Tal Gaysum, south-west of Mosul.

He is believed to have been originally known as Ronald Fiddler.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/39045923

We, the taxpayer, actually gave this man £1million in compensation after he was released from Guantanamo.

Mail said:

UK gave freed Guantanamo inmate £1million in compensation... now he’s fled to Syria and joined ISIS

Muslim convert Jamal al-Harith was caught in Afghanistan in March 2002
He was sent to the notorious Cuban camp, but was freed two years later
Launched claim against Britain saying agents knew about mistreatment
It is now revealed he escaped UK 18 months ago to join ISIS in Syria


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3267074/UK...
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[hornetrider]

I'll bet that million bought a fair amount of Semtex. FFS.

[RedTrident]

I wonder if he was of this persuasion before being detained in Guantanomo?

Also wondering if he left his money as a donation to the Labour Party.... You'll see what that's about in the coming weeks

[williamp]

Did the compo come via "public interest lawyers"??

[BlackLabel]

fesuvious said:

Must have told some fibs to get as far as being awarded compo.

Taqqiya?

The government do not defend such cases because it would mean exposing MI5/MI6 agents so many of the former British Guantanamo detainees received millions in payouts. We even gave some non Brits money. For example, Binyam Mohamed was born in Ethiopia, and immigrated to Canada in 1995, where he sought political asylum and lived there for a number of years before flying to Britain where he was a failed asylum seeker - he then traveled to Afghanistan in 2001 (as you do) and was arrested in Pakistan in 2002 and handed over to the Americans. When he was released we not only took him back - he wasn't a British citizen - but we then had to give him a million quid after flying him here on a private jet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binyam_Mohamed

[FiF]

And his brother said "He's not ashamed of him."

Part of the problem imo.

[JagLover]

Do we get the money back now?

[BlackLabel]

"The 17 British Guantanamo detainees and the £20m compensation fund: Where are they now?"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/22/17-brit...

[BlackLabel]

The director of controversial advocacy group Cage has been convicted of an offence under the Terrorism Act for refusing to hand over the pin number for his mobile phone at Heathrow Airport. Muhammad Rabbani, 36, was stopped under Schedule 7 on November 20 last year after returning home from a wedding in Doha.

Telegraph said:

He refused to give his pin or the password to his laptop, saying he had been stopped many times under the schedule before and had never been required to give these details.

Rabbani said he had highly confidential information on his device and that handing it to police would be a breach of his "personal and professional" privacy.

But on Monday he was convicted at Westminster Magistrates' Court of one count of wilfully obstructing a stop-and-search under Section 7 of the Terrorism Act.

More information about Section 7 of the Terrorism Act below - this is from the group Liberty so they have a certain agenda, nonetheless I think they make some good points.

https://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/human-righ...

[CoolHands]

how long will he get

edit oops just read that bit

"He was handed a conditional discharge"

We're tough! very tough!

Edited by CoolHands on Monday 25th September 19:57