CAGE Jihadi Supporters
Discussion
rich1231 said:
Anyone see the interview with CAGE head guy and Andrew Neil last night?
Neil and Portillo reamed him. Portillo also asking why the BBC were giving him so much air time.Listening to the bearded cretin makes me seriously question the whole freedom of speech angle. The Cage chap should feck off to a majority muslim country if he feels life here is intolerable as one.
http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31771463
Seems a couple of charities are stopping funding the jihidiots.
Seems a couple of charities are stopping funding the jihidiots.
Edited by dudleybloke on Friday 6th March 23:45
griffin dai said:
That'll take some doing 
Okay okay - how about the BBC quoting Karen Matthews on good parenting articles?Anyway back to the bearded nutjobs. This guy is very clever - he's managed to get underneath the Beeb's radar (admittedly flawed + leftie) and advertise for ISIS whilst under the guise of charidee work.
Edited by fido on Friday 6th March 23:43
From what I can surmise, CAGE are just a bunch of dicks wearing a thin veil of credibility, lent to them by sensationalist media companies desperate to peddle the "oooh, look, even the moderate Muslims are slavering terrorist 
s" line.
Irritates the piss out of me that these poxy organisations are given airtime. There are plenty of right-thinking Muslims out there who view the likes of ISIS with the contempt that they deserve. Of all the Muslims I know, not one would in any way defend or rationalise the actions of the frothy-mouthed nutjobs. They hate them; after all, the lunatic zealots bring all Muslims into disrepute. But the damn journalists don't interview the vast, quiet majority as it'd make dull headlines.
Standard media tactics, though: ask a fringe group with borderline extremist views to comment on current events. Examples? Motoring story - BRAKE or Transport 2000. Environmental issue - Greenpeace or the Green Party. Immigration - UKIP, BNP, or one of the "anti fascist" anarchist groups. And so on.
s" line.Irritates the piss out of me that these poxy organisations are given airtime. There are plenty of right-thinking Muslims out there who view the likes of ISIS with the contempt that they deserve. Of all the Muslims I know, not one would in any way defend or rationalise the actions of the frothy-mouthed nutjobs. They hate them; after all, the lunatic zealots bring all Muslims into disrepute. But the damn journalists don't interview the vast, quiet majority as it'd make dull headlines.
Standard media tactics, though: ask a fringe group with borderline extremist views to comment on current events. Examples? Motoring story - BRAKE or Transport 2000. Environmental issue - Greenpeace or the Green Party. Immigration - UKIP, BNP, or one of the "anti fascist" anarchist groups. And so on.
Murph7355 said:
Neil and Portillo reamed him. Portillo also asking why the BBC were giving him so much air time.
Listening to the bearded cretin makes me seriously question the whole freedom of speech angle. The Cage chap should feck off to a majority muslim country if he feels life here is intolerable as one.
Free speech is good. Lets everybody see how shoddy the CAGE argument is. I sincerely hope he doesn't represent the majority Muslim view. Listening to the bearded cretin makes me seriously question the whole freedom of speech angle. The Cage chap should feck off to a majority muslim country if he feels life here is intolerable as one.
Jonny_ said:
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Agree with you on all of the points except UKIP. I won't vote for them (because I'm Tory) but I don't consider them extremist for supporting policies which in other modern countries would be consider right-wing but not extremist. The Greens are however incoherent loons. Also CAGE are more than just dicks - they are potentially a recruitment consultancy for more fundamentalist nutjobs.Edited by fido on Saturday 7th March 00:02
The BBC did well to give CAGE airtime. I sincerely hope they are given more. For some time they have been operating under the radar. Now the spotlight is well and truly on them. Every minute they are on air lets the audience see their deluded world view. Also, lets people see the real face of the "moderate front" as Alan Johnson called it.
Qureshi's raison d'être appears to be that he was bullied by the white kids when he was at school, especially the "rugger buggers". As a result he has dedicated his life to opposing the British establishment.
Qureshi's raison d'être appears to be that he was bullied by the white kids when he was at school, especially the "rugger buggers". As a result he has dedicated his life to opposing the British establishment.
Edited by Pickled Piper on Saturday 7th March 11:34
Pickled Piper said:
The BBC did well to give CAGE airtime. I sincerely hope they are given more. For some time they have been operating under the radar. Now the spotlight is well and truly on them. Every minute they are on air lets the audience see their deluded world view. Also, lets people see the real face of the "moderate front" as Alan Johnson called it.
Moderate front? Long wait coming anonymous said:
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I think it's a question of who "our" is...Whilst you or I might not have given them a second thought prior to the last week or two, I'm pretty confident there are people in our security forces who know full well who they are. Let's face it, they've not been sat in the shadows in their alliances with people like Amnesty International.
As you note, their intended audience would find them regardless of whether they get BBC exposure. I think I have as much concern about the extremists at the other end of the spectrum seeing this s
t and thinking it's the common belief of the majority of the muslim populace....which I genuinely don't think it is (even if I suspect that their religious leaders could do significantly more to root this out....in exactly the same way that catholic leaders could have their evil side).Murph7355 said:
Neil and Portillo reamed him. Portillo also asking why the BBC were giving him so much air time.
Listening to the bearded cretin makes me seriously question the whole freedom of speech angle. The Cage chap should feck off to a majority muslim country if he feels life here is intolerable as one.
Not sure they did, I think they could have gone further and pinned the fellow down and allowed him to really show his colours. Part way there though, which was good.Listening to the bearded cretin makes me seriously question the whole freedom of speech angle. The Cage chap should feck off to a majority muslim country if he feels life here is intolerable as one.
jmorgan said:
Murph7355 said:
Neil and Portillo reamed him. Portillo also asking why the BBC were giving him so much air time.
Listening to the bearded cretin makes me seriously question the whole freedom of speech angle. The Cage chap should feck off to a majority muslim country if he feels life here is intolerable as one.
Not sure they did, I think they could have gone further and pinned the fellow down and allowed him to really show his colours. Part way there though, which was good.Listening to the bearded cretin makes me seriously question the whole freedom of speech angle. The Cage chap should feck off to a majority muslim country if he feels life here is intolerable as one.
I assume this is really extreme islam pretending to be moderate. Damaging to islam if so.
jmorgan said:
Not sure they did, I think they could have gone further and pinned the fellow down and allowed him to really show his colours. Part way there though, which was good.
I think they did as much as they could without it becoming the tv equivalent of this thread a few pages ago 
I'm increasingly struggling to see why it's so difficult to simply answer the questions in a straight way TBH. And dodging them speaks volumes. Were I in the Middle East and asked whether it's Ok to get ruined in public every day, the answer would be a simple "no" irrespective of whose business my views are. It's simply not worth dodging and creating the suspicion.
I can see what you are saying but I think he got off lightly. It was a late night show, fixed time slot, have to finish by a certain time. I think a bit more prep on the questions and not moving on until an answer. I think the noose was waiting down the "sharia law not practiced correctly" avenue. I think Mr Neil was trying to cover a few issues in too short a time.
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