England footballer 'arrested over underage sex allegations"

England footballer 'arrested over underage sex allegations"

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Wacky Racer

38,237 posts

248 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2019
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saaby93 said:
Why would a 22 yr old date a 88 yr old?
or doesnt age come into it?
In cases like these, usually the man is extremely rich, and the woman is a gold digger, but not in all cases.

(Obviously this is an extreme example)

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

13,075 posts

101 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2019
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WCZ said:
Peter911 said:
The 'law' is 1/2 your age plus 7.

So if I was 40, 27 is as young as I could go. Conversly, nothing older than 66 (works both ways)
That doesn’t make sense, my girlfriend is 23 and I’m 32 which is the exact limit of that theory

But in 10 years time the limit will be 28 and she’ll be 33 so at some point it will magically become inappropriate and I should leave her ?
If my quick thought process is correct, do you not get 1 year further into the 'safe zone' for every year you both age?

PurpleTurtle

7,058 posts

145 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2019
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George Smiley said:
PurpleTurtle said:
I think he was made an example of within the sentencing powers available, had he been Joe Public he would have probably got a lesser sentence. Not defending him - obviously what he has done is very wrong - but I think he's copped a sentence at the thicker end of the scale.

All that aside, the Daily Mail is predictably out to get him now. He's done his time, he should be able to move on with his life now. That's what rehabilitation is about.

The Daily Mail, in their self-appointed role as PaedoFinder General (whilst running their sidebar of shame full of paparazzi shots of young women in bikins, some with and some without permission) won't rest until they've done the full Ched Evans on him, making him completely toxic as a player. I think the best option all round would be for him to go play abroad, but I doubt the conditions of his release on licence will allow that.
Let someone finger your daughter and say they’ve do their time.

Once a nonce always a nonce
1) I don't have a daughter
2) If I did, I'd hope that I'd bring her up not to get fingered by footballers, knowing it was wrong.
3) As I said, "Not defending him - obviously what he has done is very wrong"

My point being, if you'll put your pitchfork down for a moment, if he was a factory worker he most likely wouldn't have got 6 a year prison sentence for fingering someone's daughter. Or the Daily Mail camped out at the bottom of his driveway.

WCZ

10,554 posts

195 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2019
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scenario8 said:
When exactly?

(Not defending the silly little “rule”, just curious as to when you think you’ll hit the cross over point).
well techincally it becomes appropriate next year according to this rule as:

my age - rule age

32 - 23
33 - 23.5
34 - 24
35 - 24.5
36 - 25
37 - 25.5
38 - 26

etc

the inappropriate age only increments in 6 months in relation to mine whereas she will be aging 1 year like normal humans who abide by the laws of physics

Wings

5,818 posts

216 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2019
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Met my wife when she was aged 16, I was then 21. If my had at that time been aged 15, then I believe i would have engaged in a sexual relationship. My wife is now aged 68.

What AJ did was wrong under UK law, but never warranted a prison sentence, or the harassment that has followed. Let the young man move on with his life.

This type of offence and offender, is the type of case/offence where a guilty offender should be offered the opportunity of either prison or paying a hefty fine.

George Smiley

5,048 posts

82 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2019
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If all he did was kiss then yes it was too harsh a sentence

otolith

56,394 posts

205 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2019
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George Smiley said:
If all he did was kiss then yes it was too harsh a sentence
Kissing with tongues and penetrating her vagina with his fingers. She also says that she sucked his dick, though it appears he wasn’t convicted of that, just the offences he admitted.

George Smiley

5,048 posts

82 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2019
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Then I retract my comment

tangerine_sedge

4,838 posts

219 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2019
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Wings said:
This type of offence and offender, is the type of case/offence where a guilty offender should be offered the opportunity of either prison or paying a hefty fine.
Brilliant! Is it a sliding scale of charges? Perhaps a fine of £10k for a 15 year old, maybe £30k for a 14 year old, but how much for a 10 year old?

George Smiley

5,048 posts

82 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2019
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tangerine_sedge said:
Wings said:
This type of offence and offender, is the type of case/offence where a guilty offender should be offered the opportunity of either prison or paying a hefty fine.
Brilliant! Is it a sliding scale of charges? Perhaps a fine of £10k for a 15 year old, maybe £30k for a 14 year old, but how much for a 10 year old?
Surely it’s linked to experience

Frank7

6,619 posts

88 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2019
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Peter911 said:
The 'law' is 1/2 your age plus 7.

So if I was 40, 27 is as young as I could go. Conversly, nothing older than 66 (works both ways)
It’s fairly obvious by your quotation marks, that your ‘law’ is some folklore guideline.
When I first met the woman I’ve been with for 38 years, (married for just shy of 25), she was 22, and I was 41, by that “law’, she should have been at least 27.5 y.o., or maybe I should have been 30 y.o.
Should I hand myself in down the nick?

Wings

5,818 posts

216 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2019
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tangerine_sedge said:
Brilliant! Is it a sliding scale of charges? Perhaps a fine of £10k for a 15 year old, maybe £30k for a 14 year old, but how much for a 10 year old?
No, financial penalty based upon the offenders financial status, the same being no different than other offences, speeding etc. etc. AJ's punishment was being found guilty, publicity etc. etc.. jailing AJ was at a cost to the tax payer, a hefty fine would have been a benefit to the tax payer, HMCS and help funded possibly the legal aid system.