Kid on bike murdered

[MrBrightSi]

The scrotes of today are a new breed, i hope i never meet these kind of innercity mong.

I loathe mankind for its ability to make life so cheap, this is on all of us, we lack the power to do anything about the kind of weasel that does this crime.

Might be worth manning the lamposts for lynchings, as the police/CPS can do nothing, i have no sympathy for their age, these guys are playing the game and their little knife weilding, bravado laden and utterly empathy-nill minds need taking out of the gene pool.

I used to hate the idea of eugenics, now i can see more reason for it than ever. Im no tip top specimen but i am not adding to mankinds problems as i refuse to breed when such senseless yobs live.

[wc98]

how can someone be so utterly bereft of recognition of another persons life . christ knows how a family moves on after suffering a loss of a child from an incident like this.

[superkartracer]

wc98 said:

how can someone be so utterly bereft of recognition of another persons life . christ knows how a family moves on after suffering a loss of a child from an incident like this.

One might crack and look to wipe them out, you never know.

[Du1point8]

Can guarantee you that if you talk to anyone who has done martial arts training, even to quite high standards, they will all say the same thing in a knife fight, you will get hit and its not worth it, so they will always run or give them what they want.

The only time I have ever fought back in a mugging, I stupidly tried the element of surprise, the guy asked me for my wallet (2 teenagers and 2 of us), I was not in the mood and had had a few. I pretended I didn't hear him and said 'Parden, I didn't hear you...' They got as far as 'give me all...' and as he was explaining again, I belted him in the nose and it exploded, the 2nd punch took out 2/3 teeth and he slumped to his knees crying.

His mate took one look at his mate and ran.

Hard boy who started it all, then got a final punch to his jaw just to make sure, I heard a noise, it sounded broken... hope the little fker learnt his lesson that day... Didn't stick around to find out if he had a knife or not, I assume so and I was lucky... that was 16 years ago and I make sure I have never been in that situation ever again or been in the wrong area of london at the wrong time.

(incident happened in Leeds whilst I was in uni there).

[killingjoker]

Pothole said:

killingjoker said:

I wish we could bring back capital punishment. Maybe it would deter some of this unbeleivable behaviour if it was a life for a life.

and maybe, no probably, it wouldn't. In the US, statistics would suggest that it's no deterrent. I would guess that very few criminals do a risk/benefit assessment before acting illegally.

Edited formatting by Pothole on Tuesday 3rd March 16:38

Edited by Pothole on Tuesday 3rd March 16:38

Well i would like to see the scum hang.

It's about taking responsibilty for your actions. The scum that did this has no values. He probably will show little or no remorse if and when caught.

However, people like Ian Huntley i am quite happy to see locked up until they die. The reason? he wants to die. So hopefully each and every day is a living hell for him while he thinks about what he done.

In lean times the thought of prison has stopped me from ever engaging in trying to get some easy money. I could never do time as i would not be hard enough to take it. I would have a miserable couple of weeks and then kill myself if i went inside. So it's a deterent for me.

Thats an truthful answer and i bet a lot of people would admit the same if they were honest. And i have never been cautioned, arrested, and i don't even have any speeding points. People who know me would be shocked. I bet prison deters more people than that survey would suggest. They're just asking the wrong people.

Anyhow, i hope they catch the scum that did it. I feel so sorry for the victims family, what would i do if that was my lad? That's one murder i would do time for when i caught the person that done it however.

[p1stonhead]

Du1point8 said:

Can guarantee you that if you talk to anyone who has done martial arts training, even to quite high standards, they will all say the same thing in a knife fight, you will get hit and its not worth it, so they will always run or give them what they want.

Knives change everything.

Game over in terms of trying to do anything defensive or fighting back.

[Chlamydia]

Personally if capital punishment did act as a deterrent then that would be great, but even if it didn't at the very least a murderer would be permanently removed from society.

[pete a]

Watchman said:

Local bullies took my bike off me when I was 12yo. I'd built the bike up myself with the help of my Dad from bits and pieces, including painting the frame and forks. The lead-bully then turned on me, wanting me to fight for the bike but I hadn't a clue how to fight at that age, so I was beaten, although I did get my bike back.

I subsequently went to classes to learn how to fight. It toughened me up but the consequence is I'm now cynical and street wise. Many people think that's a good thing but now that I have my own son, I hate the fact that he might be subjected to this sort of attack

My son's a gentle lad and I would love him to stay this way. The world doesn't need more disrespectful hard cases however, fearing for his future, I sent him to a local karate class but after a couple of years he hadn't taken to it and stopped. I'm pleased he isn't changing into another version of me but it means I will be on the look-out for him for longer than my parents needed to for me. Although I gladly accept the role of "protector" there will come a time when I'm not there, and I fear I'm not preparing him well for life away from me.


I sincerely hope justice is served with vengeance for this poor lad.

I didn't get my bike nicked but was bullied as a kid, went on to box for England and totally relate to the rest of your post, I'm streetwise, hard and cynical, none of which I really like being anymore, my son is a dear little chap and takes after his mum
But I do worry about other tougher boys taking advantage of him.

With regards the poor kid on the bike, that's truly shocking and upsetting.
Just senseless violence.

[audidoody]

The main thing that martial arts teaches you is to avoid as far as possible street violence. Certainly we were taught to never try any moves on someone holding a knife but to just - RUN. If you did get pushed to make a move the advice was to get in one critical punch or kick (to the nuts or face) and then RUN.

[audidoody]

The main thing that martial arts teaches you is to avoid as far as possible street violence. Certainly we were taught to never try any moves on someone holding a knife but to just - RUN. If you did get pushed to make a move the advice was to get in one critical punch or kick (to the nuts or face) and then RUN.

Edited by audidoody on Tuesday 3rd March 23:56

[otolith]

pete a said:

I didn't get my bike nicked but was bullied as a kid, went on to box for England and totally relate to the rest of your post, I'm streetwise, hard and cynical, none of which I really like being anymore, my son is a dear little chap and takes after his mum
But I do worry about other tougher boys taking advantage of him.

Clearly the solution is to scare the crap out of their dads

[Sargeant Orange]

The video of it is haunting, just the blatant disregard for life by aiming the knife straight into the chest where maximum damage would be done. It does seem like some kind of initiation with his lack of interest in the kids bike. So sad

[jogon]

Time we got tough on these gangs, 'hug a hoody' hasn't worked Dave, we have had the riots in 2011 with over 60% of those prosecuted going on to reoffend and now we have groups of kids roaming London with such disregard for other people's life.

You can be certain if they do ever catch this animal he will have a string of other offences on his record.

[Rosscow]

18 year old arrested:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-317250...

Scum

[Boydie88]

Sounds like he handed himself in. Hopefully that doesn't go in his favour come the trial.

Second person arrested too, but at an address this time rather than handing himself in...

"Police said a 17-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of murder at an address in Camden and he remains in custody. An 18-year-old was arrested earlier after going to a north London police station." From BBC live new feed.

Edited by Boydie88 on Wednesday 4th March 09:01

[jdw100]

Boydie88 said:

Sounds like he handed himself in. Hopefully that doesn't go in his favour come the trial.

Second person arrested too, but at an address this time rather than handing himself in...

"Police said a 17-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of murder at an address in Camden and he remains in custody. An 18-year-old was arrested earlier after going to a north London police station." From BBC live new feed.

Edited by Boydie88 on Wednesday 4th March 09:01

I imagine number one grassed up number two.

[CoolHands]

I hope they use joint enterprise and get all three(?) attackers for murder.

bet they won't though.

In fact what's the betting that when it all shakes out it won't even be 'murder'?

[The jiffle king]

What really gets me about this is that the lad on the bike was just cycling along and then 2 minutes later he's dead. It could happen to anyone and the value that the attackers put on life was so cheap in this case. This is a society problem and I hope that the people are punished and actively show remorse.

Really feel for the family and thoughts are with them at this really tough time

[Pothole]

killingjoker said:

Pothole said:

killingjoker said:

I wish we could bring back capital punishment. Maybe it would deter some of this unbeleivable behaviour if it was a life for a life.

and maybe, no probably, it wouldn't. In the US, statistics would suggest that it's no deterrent. I would guess that very few criminals do a risk/benefit assessment before acting illegally.

Edited formatting by Pothole on Tuesday 3rd March 16:38

Edited by Pothole on Tuesday 3rd March 16:38

Well i would like to see the scum hang.

It's about taking responsibilty for your actions. The scum that did this has no values. He probably will show little or no remorse if and when caught.

However, people like Ian Huntley i am quite happy to see locked up until they die. The reason? he wants to die. So hopefully each and every day is a living hell for him while he thinks about what he done.

In lean times the thought of prison has stopped me from ever engaging in trying to get some easy money. I could never do time as i would not be hard enough to take it. I would have a miserable couple of weeks and then kill myself if i went inside. So it's a deterent for me.

Thats an truthful answer and i bet a lot of people would admit the same if they were honest. And i have never been cautioned, arrested, and i don't even have any speeding points. People who know me would be shocked. I bet prison deters more people than that survey would suggest. They're just asking the wrong people.

Anyhow, i hope they catch the scum that did it. I feel so sorry for the victims family, what would i do if that was my lad? That's one murder i would do time for when i caught the person that done it however.

It's not a survey, it's a statistical comparison. Your bet would lose.

[sanguinary]

The jiffle king said:

What really gets me about this is that the lad on the bike was just cycling along and then 2 minutes later he's dead. It could happen to anyone and the value that the attackers put on life was so cheap in this case. This is a society problem and I hope that the people are punished and actively show remorse.

Really feel for the family and thoughts are with them at this really tough time

Yep, that's what got me too. I know life can change in an instant, but I'd like a little more warning than that lad got. His life changed quicker than I can click my fingers. He wasn't even given the choice of whether to hand his bike over or get stabbed. Utter, utter scum.