Taking Offence at Religeous Observance

[Pothole]

longblackcoat said:

Pothole said:

Tyre Tread said:

Reading on another thread that mentioned people being prevented from wearing a cross to avoid offendinf muslims set me thinking. If we, as the "host/majority" society must be seen to avoid offending the religeous minorities then surely the minorities are under an equal obligation to avoid offending the host/majority?

Since a burka/ niqab, which covers up the face is as a sign of modesty religious faith, isn't it reasonable for the majority/host to ask for the minortity not to wear such a garment on the same grounds? Or am I missing something?

Most of your English lessons at school?

ETA and anything regarding comparative religion, too. A quick google showed me this:

(IISNA is a Melbourne based Islamic organisation that is dedicated to providing Islamic services and sharing sound Islamic knowledge to benefit the community. IISNA provides a multipurpose facility in the heart of the Melbourne's Muslim community - known as MyCentre - which provides social, educational, spiritual and recreational services to Muslims with an emphasis on the youth. - See more at: http://www.iisna.com/about/#sthash.wUWDdMrX.dpuf)

website said:

"There is no doubt that both the burqa and niqab have an Islamic basis, and that both have been commonly practised and recognised by Muslims throughout history. Islamic texts make it very clear that the hijab is compulsory for Muslim women to observe. Consequently, Islamic scholars have agreed that both the burqa and niqab are part of Islam, but have differed as to whether they are also compulsory or optional acts of virtue. This explains why some Muslim women wear the hijab, while others decide to wear the niqab or burqa. - See more at: http://www.iisna.com/articles/pamphlets/the-burqa-...

I can't find a branch of Christianity which requires the wearing of a cross or crucifix. Do you know of one?

Edited by Pothole on Tuesday 3rd March 16:54

There are sections of Christianity that require there to be no music (the Wee Frees), no alcohol (Methodists), no blood transfusions (JWs).....all of them claiming that this is God's will. The vast majority of Christians are just fine with these three.

Same with the niqab - some Muslims think it's mandatory, many think it's not, and a small minority ban it on the grounds that it's anti-Islamic.

I can't find a branch of Christianity which requires the wearing of a cross or crucifix. Do you know of one?

[longblackcoat]

Pothole said:

longblackcoat said:

Pothole said:

Tyre Tread said:

Reading on another thread that mentioned people being prevented from wearing a cross to avoid offendinf muslims set me thinking. If we, as the "host/majority" society must be seen to avoid offending the religeous minorities then surely the minorities are under an equal obligation to avoid offending the host/majority?

Since a burka/ niqab, which covers up the face is as a sign of modesty religious faith, isn't it reasonable for the majority/host to ask for the minortity not to wear such a garment on the same grounds? Or am I missing something?

Most of your English lessons at school?

ETA and anything regarding comparative religion, too. A quick google showed me this:

(IISNA is a Melbourne based Islamic organisation that is dedicated to providing Islamic services and sharing sound Islamic knowledge to benefit the community. IISNA provides a multipurpose facility in the heart of the Melbourne's Muslim community - known as MyCentre - which provides social, educational, spiritual and recreational services to Muslims with an emphasis on the youth. - See more at: http://www.iisna.com/about/#sthash.wUWDdMrX.dpuf)

website said:

"There is no doubt that both the burqa and niqab have an Islamic basis, and that both have been commonly practised and recognised by Muslims throughout history. Islamic texts make it very clear that the hijab is compulsory for Muslim women to observe. Consequently, Islamic scholars have agreed that both the burqa and niqab are part of Islam, but have differed as to whether they are also compulsory or optional acts of virtue. This explains why some Muslim women wear the hijab, while others decide to wear the niqab or burqa. - See more at: http://www.iisna.com/articles/pamphlets/the-burqa-...

I can't find a branch of Christianity which requires the wearing of a cross or crucifix. Do you know of one?

Edited by Pothole on Tuesday 3rd March 16:54

There are sections of Christianity that require there to be no music (the Wee Frees), no alcohol (Methodists), no blood transfusions (JWs).....all of them claiming that this is God's will. The vast majority of Christians are just fine with these three.

Same with the niqab - some Muslims think it's mandatory, many think it's not, and a small minority ban it on the grounds that it's anti-Islamic.

I can't find a branch of Christianity which requires the wearing of a cross or crucifix. Do you know of one?

My point was that all relions have strange practices that are sometime mainstream, sometimes not.

I don't know why you're so insistent on the cross-wearing issue, but as you seem to be determined to make a point of it, the Eastern Orthodox Church requires their followers to wear a crucifix as a symbol that they belong to God.

Happy now?

[Pothole]

longblackcoat said:

Pothole said:

longblackcoat said:

Pothole said:

Tyre Tread said:

Reading on another thread that mentioned people being prevented from wearing a cross to avoid offendinf muslims set me thinking. If we, as the "host/majority" society must be seen to avoid offending the religeous minorities then surely the minorities are under an equal obligation to avoid offending the host/majority?

Since a burka/ niqab, which covers up the face is as a sign of modesty religious faith, isn't it reasonable for the majority/host to ask for the minortity not to wear such a garment on the same grounds? Or am I missing something?

Most of your English lessons at school?

ETA and anything regarding comparative religion, too. A quick google showed me this:

(IISNA is a Melbourne based Islamic organisation that is dedicated to providing Islamic services and sharing sound Islamic knowledge to benefit the community. IISNA provides a multipurpose facility in the heart of the Melbourne's Muslim community - known as MyCentre - which provides social, educational, spiritual and recreational services to Muslims with an emphasis on the youth. - See more at: http://www.iisna.com/about/#sthash.wUWDdMrX.dpuf)

website said:

"There is no doubt that both the burqa and niqab have an Islamic basis, and that both have been commonly practised and recognised by Muslims throughout history. Islamic texts make it very clear that the hijab is compulsory for Muslim women to observe. Consequently, Islamic scholars have agreed that both the burqa and niqab are part of Islam, but have differed as to whether they are also compulsory or optional acts of virtue. This explains why some Muslim women wear the hijab, while others decide to wear the niqab or burqa. - See more at: http://www.iisna.com/articles/pamphlets/the-burqa-...

I can't find a branch of Christianity which requires the wearing of a cross or crucifix. Do you know of one?

Edited by Pothole on Tuesday 3rd March 16:54

There are sections of Christianity that require there to be no music (the Wee Frees), no alcohol (Methodists), no blood transfusions (JWs).....all of them claiming that this is God's will. The vast majority of Christians are just fine with these three.

Same with the niqab - some Muslims think it's mandatory, many think it's not, and a small minority ban it on the grounds that it's anti-Islamic.

I can't find a branch of Christianity which requires the wearing of a cross or crucifix. Do you know of one?

My point was that all relions have strange practices that are sometime mainstream, sometimes not.

I don't know why you're so insistent on the cross-wearing issue, but as you seem to be determined to make a point of it, the Eastern Orthodox Church requires their followers to wear a crucifix as a symbol that they belong to God.

Happy now?

OP said:

Reading on another thread that mentioned people being prevented from wearing a cross to avoid offendinf muslims set me thinking.

Ecstatic, thanks.