Jeremy Clarkson suspended by BBC...
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Wacky Racer said:
Willy Nilly said:
Jimbo0912 said:
For all the Clarkson bum chums on here, just a few questions:
- Who spent the afternoon/evening getting pissed up in a pub?
- Who delayed the helicopter for over 3 hours at huge expense?
- Who turned up too late for hot food even though he knew previously at what time the chef closed the kitchen?
- Who drunkenly hurled expletives and threw his toys out of the pram like a giant f**king baby when he didn't get his way?
- Who punched a colleague in the face in front of over a dozen witnesses?
- Who behaved in a completely unprofessional manner?
and who is the star of the show that the whole thing revolves around?- Who spent the afternoon/evening getting pissed up in a pub?
- Who delayed the helicopter for over 3 hours at huge expense?
- Who turned up too late for hot food even though he knew previously at what time the chef closed the kitchen?
- Who drunkenly hurled expletives and threw his toys out of the pram like a giant f**king baby when he didn't get his way?
- Who punched a colleague in the face in front of over a dozen witnesses?
- Who behaved in a completely unprofessional manner?
Go on tour with the Rolling Stones and if Mick Jagger wants a steak after a concert you stay and wait until he is ready. You don't flounce off at 10pm, you stay, do your job and cook the steak.
Or better still p*ss on his steak.
Willy Nilly said:
and who is the star of the show that the whole thing revolves around?
Go on tour with the Rolling Stones and if Mick Jagger wants a steak after a concert you stay and wait until he is ready. You don't flounce off at 10pm, you stay, do your job and cook the steak.
So what? The issue is that he PUNCHED someone (leaving aside +20mins of verbal abuse which given his 'seniority' was at best vile bullying).Go on tour with the Rolling Stones and if Mick Jagger wants a steak after a concert you stay and wait until he is ready. You don't flounce off at 10pm, you stay, do your job and cook the steak.
racinghep said:
In my own experience, it might be a business trip but what happens out of "office hours" stays out of work.
I have done 2,3,4 and more week stints away from home (in some utterly inhospitable places) and whilst I am the boss - that is not how it works. I have to say I have never been punched, I did get into it once with my now Sales Director... Total w
ker, love him until the day I die and could punch him in the face daily. His clothes ended up frozen and semi seriously he could have died (he actually fell into an ice hole - long story!)
He is alive and still a knob, but he is very good at what he does.
Never once considered firing the prick though, for a start I would be bored to tears! Oh and broke!
So can I just clarify - he's abused you for 30 minutes, smacked you around a bit, but you were ok with this because he earns you a lot of money?I have done 2,3,4 and more week stints away from home (in some utterly inhospitable places) and whilst I am the boss - that is not how it works. I have to say I have never been punched, I did get into it once with my now Sales Director... Total w
ker, love him until the day I die and could punch him in the face daily. His clothes ended up frozen and semi seriously he could have died (he actually fell into an ice hole - long story!)He is alive and still a knob, but he is very good at what he does.
Never once considered firing the prick though, for a start I would be bored to tears! Oh and broke!
And how do you think the rest of your team view you and your somewhat "beta male" attitude?
TankRizzo said:
Willy Nilly said:
and who is the star of the show that the whole thing revolves around?
Go on tour with the Rolling Stones and if Mick Jagger wants a steak after a concert you stay and wait until he is ready. You don't flounce off at 10pm, you stay, do your job and cook the steak.
Go on tour with the Rolling Stones and if Mick Jagger wants a steak after a concert you stay and wait until he is ready. You don't flounce off at 10pm, you stay, do your job and cook the steak.
What is this utter rubbish? He is a TV presenter, not the fking Queen. Pity he's clearly lost sight of that over time.Pugsey said:
Willy Nilly said:
and who is the star of the show that the whole thing revolves around?
Go on tour with the Rolling Stones and if Mick Jagger wants a steak after a concert you stay and wait until he is ready. You don't flounce off at 10pm, you stay, do your job and cook the steak.
So what? The issue is that he PUNCHED someone (leaving aside +20mins of verbal abuse which given his 'seniority' was at best vile bullying).Go on tour with the Rolling Stones and if Mick Jagger wants a steak after a concert you stay and wait until he is ready. You don't flounce off at 10pm, you stay, do your job and cook the steak.
Willy Nilly said:
He is the presenter of, the brains of and the reason about 200 million + people watched Top Gear. Someones job was to feed him, they didn't. Do your job or let someone else do it.
All true - though he should never have punched him. The team probably booked out most of that hotel so just why they didn't treat the party with due course (maybe they served all but the late JC and that pissed him off to everyone eats but him who knows. This thread is mental. We had a statement from DG outlining what happened, and that JC has not had his contract renewed as he physically punched a producer and subjected him to a verbal tirade of abuse. Even JC has come out and said its not the producers fault and to leave him alone.
Yet.......some people are either stating JC is not at fault, or except that he punched him but it's all the Beebs fault as they have failed in a duty of care to JC, allowed this to happen, wanted him out and set this all up. Or it's the Producers fault that he didn't get the food sorted when the Cook had decided to go home as the crew where late, that he is a failure because he didn't man up and fight back, and that he is the reason the A&E is in crisis that he went their with a busted lip.
Yes it's sad Top Gear is over, Sundays will not be the same. But please....it's a TV show. The conspiracy theories coming out on this are worrying. Maybe just maybe it's JC's fault and nothing else???
I do wonder how many more pages or threads we can talk about this topic.
Yet.......some people are either stating JC is not at fault, or except that he punched him but it's all the Beebs fault as they have failed in a duty of care to JC, allowed this to happen, wanted him out and set this all up. Or it's the Producers fault that he didn't get the food sorted when the Cook had decided to go home as the crew where late, that he is a failure because he didn't man up and fight back, and that he is the reason the A&E is in crisis that he went their with a busted lip.
Yes it's sad Top Gear is over, Sundays will not be the same. But please....it's a TV show. The conspiracy theories coming out on this are worrying. Maybe just maybe it's JC's fault and nothing else???
I do wonder how many more pages or threads we can talk about this topic.
Willy Nilly said:
Pugsey said:
Willy Nilly said:
and who is the star of the show that the whole thing revolves around?
Go on tour with the Rolling Stones and if Mick Jagger wants a steak after a concert you stay and wait until he is ready. You don't flounce off at 10pm, you stay, do your job and cook the steak.
So what? The issue is that he PUNCHED someone (leaving aside +20mins of verbal abuse which given his 'seniority' was at best vile bullying).Go on tour with the Rolling Stones and if Mick Jagger wants a steak after a concert you stay and wait until he is ready. You don't flounce off at 10pm, you stay, do your job and cook the steak.
Busy day so that's enough of this for me. Have good days all.
I don't think they should have allowed this person with clear mental health/anger management issues to be out in public driving powerful cars, someone could have been killed...
it's PC gone mad to allow these lunatics out in public, thank god someone at the BBC has seen sense and taken him out of that situation
it's PC gone mad to allow these lunatics out in public, thank god someone at the BBC has seen sense and taken him out of that situation
Devil2575 said:
Flounce off? Seriously? So you know the situation then? Or are you just talking out of your back passage like many people on this thread.
Mick Jagger's cook will be paid to be there, if the guy in the place they were eating was being paid he would have been there.
It's high time people started standing up to self important celebrities throwing tantrums like over-grown children. I don't give a flying fk whether they are the talent or not. They need to start behaving like reasonable adults.
I don't know what's worse, the celebrities or the sycophants.
Reasonable adults, normal everyday adults who you expect to behave in a normal, decent fashion, aren't the people who produce stuff that millions of people around the world want to see or hear though, are they?Mick Jagger's cook will be paid to be there, if the guy in the place they were eating was being paid he would have been there.
It's high time people started standing up to self important celebrities throwing tantrums like over-grown children. I don't give a flying f
k whether they are the talent or not. They need to start behaving like reasonable adults.I don't know what's worse, the celebrities or the sycophants.
Most people who do stand up to self important celebrities throwing tantrums simply get the sack, because that person can be replaced at the click of the fingers, but the global cash cow can't.
Having said all this, I don't for one moment think all of this was just over a steak. I think Clarkson has just imploded, and whatever the final straw was is irrelevant, really.
Hey ho, it's the end of an era, the end of a great tv programme the like of which I don't think we'll ever see again. To get millions of people all around the world who aren't really interested in cars to watch a car programme really takes some special skill, and nobody else has ever come close to achieving anything like imo.
Willy Nilly said:
Countdown said:
Willy Nilly said:
I have to work late and it is an utter ball ache getting fed properly. If someone told me they were making my tea and I got home to find cheese and bloody biscuits there would be trouble. Can you imagine coming off shift on an oil ring and been presented with cheese and biscuits? The chef would be thrown over the side.
So if somebody didn't make your tea you'd smack them in the mouth?In a previous life I was working abroad and up to 1100 mile from base living in a caravan, in the middle of nowhere with 9 others working stupid hours. You end up being irritated by everything because you are tired and hungry. To work like that you need feeding and if you are expecting food, even if you are late for it, and it doesn't come, you get rather cross.
Willy Nilly said:
I will re-iterate. Like him or not, Clarkson was Mr Top Gear,the show went out to hundreds of millions of people because of him. He was the star of the show. If he wants a steak after a days filming, he gets it. If he want steak after a days filming but stops for a few beers before and is late, you stay until he gets back and bring forth steak. If you cannot do that, then working in hospitality with high profile people is not for you. Try a job at a Toby Carvery instead.
It looks like the Beeb disagree with you. Still, what do they know about making TV programmes, eh?I work for a small IT company of about 25 people. It is privately owned and run day-to-day by the owner. If the owner punched me there are two options...
1) He loses his job. This would probably result in the company folding and 25 people losing their job without a redundancy payment.
2) I get paid off with a very nice payment and a glowing reference. Maybe 2 years salary. Everyone else keeps their job.
The team that makes Top Gear are in an odd position. They are very similar to a small independent company and yet are also part of this massive tax-funded organisation.
How many other people are are likely to lose their job due to Top Gear being cancelled?
1) He loses his job. This would probably result in the company folding and 25 people losing their job without a redundancy payment.
2) I get paid off with a very nice payment and a glowing reference. Maybe 2 years salary. Everyone else keeps their job.
The team that makes Top Gear are in an odd position. They are very similar to a small independent company and yet are also part of this massive tax-funded organisation.
How many other people are are likely to lose their job due to Top Gear being cancelled?
alock said:
I work for a small IT company of about 25 people. It is privately owned and run day-to-day by the owner. If the owner punched me there are two options...
1) He loses his job. This would probably result in the company folding and 25 people losing their job without a redundancy payment.
2) I get paid off with a very nice payment and a glowing reference. Maybe 2 years salary. Everyone else keeps their job.
The team that makes Top Gear are in an odd position. They are very similar to a small independent company and yet are also part of this massive tax-funded organisation.
How many other people are are likely to lose their job due to Top Gear being cancelled?
It hasn't been cancelled.1) He loses his job. This would probably result in the company folding and 25 people losing their job without a redundancy payment.
2) I get paid off with a very nice payment and a glowing reference. Maybe 2 years salary. Everyone else keeps their job.
The team that makes Top Gear are in an odd position. They are very similar to a small independent company and yet are also part of this massive tax-funded organisation.
How many other people are are likely to lose their job due to Top Gear being cancelled?
Wow, 250 pages of arguments because a self important bloke couldn't have a steak, threw a tantrum at a junior member of staff and got sacked.
Meanwhile back in the real world, yesterday 150 families visited the French Alps to view the remains of loved ones they did get chance to say goodbye to.
Meanwhile back in the real world, yesterday 150 families visited the French Alps to view the remains of loved ones they did get chance to say goodbye to.
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