Jeremy Clarkson suspended by BBC...

[robemcdonald]

LucreLout said:

robemcdonald said:

I just googled bedder 6 profits. It made a mighty profit of £673919 in 2013. it did have a revenue of £149M though.

Last year sub-zero made a post tax profit of....

Wait for it....

£967000

I googeled Top Gear profits and there are a number of different results ranging from £20M up to the £150M you suggest. The truth no doubt lies between the two.

Kudos to you for getting me to fall for your wild goose chase.

You googled their accounts? Are you quite sure the journalist involved understood them? Only, their dividends for the year totalled more than the lower end of your profit range, which pretty well shows it to be wrong. Then you'll need to pull subzeros accounts too, because whoever is writing the numbers in the article you're finding doesn't know what they're reading. Full marks for effort though.

ETA: Let us not forget the Dave revenue or the merchandising.

Edited by LucreLout on Friday 27th March 16:41

Well it was actually the due diligence website due dil so the figures were actual and not interpreted.
In essence the two companies where you suggested the real money was made a combined nett profit of less than £2m anyone can go to the website and confirm this.
If you want to prove anything else then it's up to you to provide the evidence.

[robemcdonald]

turbobloke said:

It's tempting to note that reasoning by assertion is alive and well, but the curious offering you commented on doesn't qualify as reasoning, so baseless assertion is alive and well in this case.

Parklife

[LucreLout]

robemcdonald said:

Well it was actually the due diligence website due dil so the figures were actual and not interpreted.
In essence the two companies where you suggested the real money was made a combined nett profit of less than £2m anyone can go to the website and confirm this.
If you want to prove anything else then it's up to you to provide the evidence.

Duedil the sales persons lead generation website???

Think I'll stick to companies house where the accounts get filed.

[robemcdonald]

LucreLout said:

robemcdonald said:

Well it was actually the due diligence website due dil so the figures were actual and not interpreted.
In essence the two companies where you suggested the real money was made a combined nett profit of less than £2m anyone can go to the website and confirm this.
If you want to prove anything else then it's up to you to provide the evidence.

Duedil the sales persons lead generation website???

Think I'll stick to companies house where the accounts get filed.

I've never used th site before, but it didn't look like a lead generation page, just had financial stats for the companies.
If you have a problem with my source then you go to companies house get the data and put it on here, but I don't suppose you'll be doing that will you?

[robemcdonald]

LucreLout said:

robemcdonald said:

Well it was actually the due diligence website due dil so the figures were actual and not interpreted.
In essence the two companies where you suggested the real money was made a combined nett profit of less than £2m anyone can go to the website and confirm this.
If you want to prove anything else then it's up to you to provide the evidence.

Duedil the sales persons lead generation website???

Think I'll stick to companies house where the accounts get filed.

having just checked. Its a B2B sales lead generation and risk managment site. Both completley different elements. Congratulations twice in a day. I'll put it down to my cold. I was going to run a DnB but you can jog on.

[racinghep]

http://companycheck.co.uk/company/05982502/BEDDER-...

http://companycheck.co.uk/company/06499361/SUB-ZER...

[LucreLout]

robemcdonald said:

I've never used th site before, but it didn't look like a lead generation page, just had financial stats for the companies.
If you have a problem with my source then you go to companies house get the data and put it on here, but I don't suppose you'll be doing that will you?

Well, no, because they explicitly prohibit that and so does ph. I don't much fancy breaking copyright law to save you less than the cost of a latte.

[robemcdonald]

LucreLout said:

robemcdonald said:

I've never used th site before, but it didn't look like a lead generation page, just had financial stats for the companies.
If you have a problem with my source then you go to companies house get the data and put it on here, but I don't suppose you'll be doing that will you?

Well, no, because they explicitly prohibit that and so does ph. I don't much fancy breaking copyright law to save you less than the cost of a latte.

That and the fact youve got your figures badly wrong, but you're not up to admitting it. I understand.

[Lordbenny]

My fridge magnets......

[don4l]

otolith said:

don4l said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

evilmunkey said:

Just seen a video of papparazi hounding Clarkson while he was riding a bike. his only comment was that he wanted everyone to lay off the producer as non of it was his fault. i thought that was a very decent thing to say.

You make it sound like he's making some grand selfless gesture by accepting 100% of the blame himself. That would be the case if he weren't 100% to blame, but he is.

You think that it wasn't a decent thing to say?

What should he have said?

For some, ritually disembowelling himself would be barely sufficient. In fact they would probably take it as some sort of racist attack on Japanese culture.

The visceral rage that he causes in "lefties" is one of the reasons that we like him so much.

[Countdown]

racinghep said:

No we had a row because we had been out in -20 degree ice and snow for 2 weeks in the middle of nowhere and things got a bit pushy.

As for trying to snipe at me - not going to rise to it so toddle off.

Wasn't trying to snipe - I was genuinely curious.

There's been quite a few people who claim to have "dished it out" and then shook hands, water under the bridge etc etc.

I was just curious as to how these people would react if a colleague who was much bigger/more senior to them abused them verbally and then smacked them in the mouth. Would they/you brush it off, shake hands, and "let bygones be bygones"?

[popegregory]

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TwigtheWonderkid said:

Fair play to Tymon, for not milking the situation.

Is it not at all feasible that when the bidding war is concluded, the two of them will be working together again on whatever they go on to do?

[LucreLout]

robemcdonald said:

That and the fact youve got your figures badly wrong, but you're not up to admitting it. I understand.

£20 million gross profit on 50% of the rights gets us to £40 million right out if the gate.
What is not shown in those accounts are the international syndication rights to the main show, the format leasing and revenue from the spinoff shows like TG Germany or USA. Not revenue accrues to the accounts for the advertising revenue from Dave, a channel which exists mostly to sell adverts during top gear repeats.

Your numbers are wrong, and you seem not to grasp why or understand where to obtain proper information. If you still don't get it, I cant help you.

[racinghep]

Countdown said:

racinghep said:

No we had a row because we had been out in -20 degree ice and snow for 2 weeks in the middle of nowhere and things got a bit pushy.

As for trying to snipe at me - not going to rise to it so toddle off.

Wasn't trying to snipe - I was genuinely curious.

There's been quite a few people who claim to have "dished it out" and then shook hands, water under the bridge etc etc.

I was just curious as to how these people would react if a colleague who was much bigger/more senior to them abused them verbally and then smacked them in the mouth. Would they/you brush it off, shake hands, and "let bygones be bygones"?

Fair enough, well it was just a row between two people that was down to environment etc. The point is, these things do happen and if you are reasonably mature and grown up about it you move on.

Most office based types I suspect could and would, never understand as it is far easier to climb on their moral high horse via their expertly crafted soap box.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

don4l said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

evilmunkey said:

Just seen a video of papparazi hounding Clarkson while he was riding a bike. his only comment was that he wanted everyone to lay off the producer as non of it was his fault. i thought that was a very decent thing to say.

You make it sound like he's making some grand selfless gesture by accepting 100% of the blame himself. That would be the case if he weren't 100% to blame, but he is.

You think that it wasn't a decent thing to say?

What should he have said?

It was the right thing to say, but I don't think he was doing anything overly commendable for saying it. I don't think we should congratulate someone who caused a situation for saying some else shouldn't be blamed for it.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

popegregory] said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Fair play to Tymon, for not milking the situation.

Is it not at all feasible that when the bidding war is concluded, the two of them will be working together again on whatever they go on to do?

I never even said what you've quoted me above as saying!

[TwigtheWonderkid]

robemcdonald said:

turbobloke said:

It's tempting to note that reasoning by assertion is alive and well, but the curious offering you commented on doesn't qualify as reasoning, so baseless assertion is alive and well in this case.

Parklife

[turbobloke]

robemcdonald said:

turbobloke said:

It's tempting to note that reasoning by assertion is alive and well, but the curious offering you commented on doesn't qualify as reasoning, so baseless assertion is alive and well in this case.

Parklife

Not even close. It would have been accurate if aimed at mph's gibberish and may have been but for...who knows, shared politics and bias probably, as per the vacant me-too roffler.

If anyone can't cope with that, they should be over on CIF with others already in the slower thread sets.

[robemcdonald]

LucreLout said:

robemcdonald said:

That and the fact youve got your figures badly wrong, but you're not up to admitting it. I understand.

£20 million gross profit on 50% of the rights gets us to £40 million right out if the gate.
What is not shown in those accounts are the international syndication rights to the main show, the format leasing and revenue from the spinoff shows like TG Germany or USA. Not revenue accrues to the accounts for the advertising revenue from Dave, a channel which exists mostly to sell adverts during top gear repeats.

Your numbers are wrong, and you seem not to grasp why or understand where to obtain proper information. If you still don't get it, I cant help you.

Sorry not going to fall for it again. Don't feed the troll and all that.

[turbobloke]

robemcdonald said:

LucreLout said:

robemcdonald said:

That and the fact youve got your figures badly wrong, but you're not up to admitting it. I understand.

£20 million gross profit on 50% of the rights gets us to £40 million right out if the gate.
What is not shown in those accounts are the international syndication rights to the main show, the format leasing and revenue from the spinoff shows like TG Germany or USA. Not revenue accrues to the accounts for the advertising revenue from Dave, a channel which exists mostly to sell adverts during top gear repeats.

Your numbers are wrong, and you seem not to grasp why or understand where to obtain proper information. If you still don't get it, I cant help you.

Sorry not going to fall for it again. Don't feed the troll and all that.

Asking for no replies - fair enough.